Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-19 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 00:33 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 09/18/2010 10:01 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 19:17 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > >> It turns out that if AHCI mode is enabled, my DVD drive disappears. > >> Apparently with normal kernel, it's detected as PATA

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-19 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/18/2010 10:01 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 19:17 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> It turns out that if AHCI mode is enabled, my DVD drive disappears. >> Apparently with normal kernel, it's detected as PATA - and with the >> patch not detected at all. >> Figures > I expe

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-18 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 19:17 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 09/18/2010 03:06 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 01:36 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > >> On 09/17/2010 12:41 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > >>> Your SATA seems to be configured to work in IDE compatibility mode. > >> >

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-18 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/18/2010 03:06 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 01:36 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> On 09/17/2010 12:41 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: >>> Your SATA seems to be configured to work in IDE compatibility mode. >> >> You were right, I found a mention of my chipset and a patch >> (h

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-18 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/18/2010 03:06 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > I'd suggest you file a bug report in http://bugzilla.redhat.com and ask > that this patch will be included. Make sure you post the complete > hardware configuration in the bug report. > Looking at the code, I don't see any huge reason that this patch

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-18 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 01:36 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 09/17/2010 12:41 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > Your SATA seems to be configured to work in IDE compatibility mode. > > > You were right, I found a mention of my chipset and a patch > (http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/ahci_quirk_cle

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-18 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 13:11 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 09/17/2010 12:41 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > >> On 09/17/2010 07:40 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > >>> Are you using SATA drive, or IDE? > >>> Assuming the former, does it use n

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-18 Thread Toni Korpela
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Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-18 Thread brian mckee
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Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-18 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/17/2010 12:41 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > Your SATA seems to be configured to work in IDE compatibility mode. You were right, I found a mention of my chipset and a patch (http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/ahci_quirk_cleanup.diff) After compiling the kernel with it, the chipset is now run

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/17/2010 12:41 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> On 09/17/2010 07:40 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: >>> Are you using SATA drive, or IDE? >>> Assuming the former, does it use native SATA / AHCI or IDE-compatible >>> mode? >>> >>> >> Pretty sur

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/17/2010 12:37 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> On 09/17/2010 07:40 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: >>> Are you using SATA drive, or IDE? >>> Assuming the former, does it use native SATA / AHCI or IDE-compatible >>> mode? >>> >>> >> Pretty sur

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/17/2010 11:36 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > I've never thought that there was anything more complicated to this > phenomenon than that keyboard and disk i/o are both serviced by > interrupts. It's true that both are serviced by interrupts, but they're separate hardware interrupts -- and the v

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 09/17/2010 07:40 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > Are you using SATA drive, or IDE? > > Assuming the former, does it use native SATA / AHCI or IDE-compatible > > mode? > > > > > > Pretty sure it's SATA: > > Sep 16 19:48:47 mireille kerne

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 09/17/2010 07:40 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > Are you using SATA drive, or IDE? > > Assuming the former, does it use native SATA / AHCI or IDE-compatible > > mode? > > > > > > Pretty sure it's SATA: > > Sep 16 19:48:47 mireille kerne

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Robert Myers
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36:12 -0400, >  Robert Myers wrote: >> >> I've never thought that there was anything more complicated to this >> phenomenon than that keyboard and disk i/o are both serviced by >> interrupts. > > That's not likel

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36:12 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > > I've never thought that there was anything more complicated to this > phenomenon than that keyboard and disk i/o are both serviced by > interrupts. That's not likely the problem. It's probably competing access to disk I/O between

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Robert Myers
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >  For some reason, while running HDD-intensive tasks (e.g. svn update on > a large tree), system becomes extremely unresponsive. > And I don't mean tasks that require any disk access - I'm trying to type > inside an ssh session in a termina

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/17/2010 07:40 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > Are you using SATA drive, or IDE? > Assuming the former, does it use native SATA / AHCI or IDE-compatible > mode? > > Pretty sure it's SATA: Sep 16 19:48:47 mireille kernel: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xbfa0 irq 14 Sep 16 19

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-17 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 14:11 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote: > For some reason, while running HDD-intensive tasks (e.g. svn update on > a large tree), system becomes extremely unresponsive. > And I don't mean tasks that require any disk access - I'm trying to type > inside an ssh session in a termi

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-14 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/14/2010 02:35 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> On 09/14/2010 02:21 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Konstantin Svist >>> wrote: For some reason, while running HDD-intensive tasks (e.g. sv

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-14 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >  On 09/14/2010 02:21 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Konstantin Svist  wrote: >>>   For some reason, while running HDD-intensive tasks (e.g. svn update on >>> a large tree), system becomes extremely unrespon

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-14 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/14/2010 02:21 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> For some reason, while running HDD-intensive tasks (e.g. svn update on >> a large tree), system becomes extremely unresponsive. >> And I don't mean tasks that require any disk access -

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-14 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >  For some reason, while running HDD-intensive tasks (e.g. svn update on > a large tree), system becomes extremely unresponsive. > And I don't mean tasks that require any disk access - I'm trying to type > inside an ssh session in a termina

Re: System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:11:45 -0700 Konstantin Svist wrote: > Just now, composing this email, thunderbird got stuck at the previous > sentence for a second while it was downloading new messages. > > What's going on?? I've seen similar behavior. My theory has always been that some sort of tuning

System unresponsive during HDD activity

2010-09-14 Thread Konstantin Svist
For some reason, while running HDD-intensive tasks (e.g. svn update on a large tree), system becomes extremely unresponsive. And I don't mean tasks that require any disk access - I'm trying to type inside an ssh session in a terminal, and the remote machine is getting my keystrokes after a pre