Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-07 Thread poma
On 08.09.2014 03:20, poma wrote: > On 08.09.2014 00:29, Bat Phil wrote: >> After a weekend of installing and re-installing, I thought I would share >> what I have found: >> >> Hardware setup: >> >> AMD Semperon 300+ (old) > > This router is stronger than AMD Semp :) > # grep -i cpu /proc/cpuinfo

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-07 Thread Tod Merley
From: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Welcome_to_Fedora_.html Low memory installations Fedora 20 can be installed and used on systems with limited resources for some applications. Text, vnc, or kickstart installations are advised over graphical

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 7, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Bat Phil wrote: > I did consider that possibility Eddie and it may well limit my ultimate > choice of desktop. I am hoping that the main limiting factor is the lack of > system memory rather than video memory. However, I will have to wait for a > couple of days to

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-07 Thread poma
On 08.09.2014 00:29, Bat Phil wrote: > After a weekend of installing and re-installing, I thought I would share > what I have found: > > Hardware setup: > > AMD Semperon 300+ (old) This router is stronger than AMD Semp :) # grep -i cpu /proc/cpuinfo cpu model : MIPS 24KEc V4.12 CP

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 7, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Bat Phil wrote: > After a weekend of installing and re-installing, I thought I would share what > I have found: > > Hardware setup: > > AMD Semperon 300+ (old) > 64MB AGP graphics card > 1GB DDR400 RAM > 160GB HD configured as follows. >500MB boot partition

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-07 Thread Bat Phil
I did consider that possibility Eddie and it may well limit my ultimate choice of desktop. I am hoping that the main limiting factor is the lack of system memory rather than video memory. However, I will have to wait for a couple of days to find out. Thanks for your input. Phil On 7 Sep 2014 23:36

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-07 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 09/07/2014 06:29 PM, Bat Phil wrote: After a weekend of installing and re-installing, I thought I would share what I have found: Hardware setup: AMD Semperon 300+ (old) 64MB AGP graphics card 1GB DDR400 RAM 160GB HD configured as follows. 500MB boot partition 10GB swap partition

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-07 Thread Bat Phil
After a weekend of installing and re-installing, I thought I would share what I have found: Hardware setup: AMD Semperon 300+ (old) 64MB AGP graphics card 1GB DDR400 RAM 160GB HD configured as follows. 500MB boot partition 10GB swap partition 142GB root partition 250GB HD configured

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 11:47 -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > How do I configure google mail to let me bottom post? I googled and > just > found references to grease monkey and that didn't get me anywhere. There's no setting for that, but you can get the effect by selecting the text to be quoted befo

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Under normal circumstances yes of course, but at the moment it's just a case of playing with a system that will only have dummy data on it so it doesn't matter if I screw things up. Phil On 5 September 2014 21:22, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/05/2014 01:08 PM, Bat Phil wrote: > >> Best thing then

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
More of clarification than a retraction Paul ;-) but point noted. Sounds like it won't be a problem once I've upgraded the RAM though. Cheers Phil On 5 September 2014 21:20, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:31:38PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > 1. I am using older hardwa

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 01:08 PM, Bat Phil wrote: Best thing then is to set up a 2-drive system, put some non-critical data files in the home directories and try it out then. Although presumably, if I do manage to balls up the IDs and block the data, then it's just a case of logging in as root and sorting

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:31:38PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > 1. I am using older hardware - AMD Semperon 3000+ (socket 754), which I > > understand is a 64 bit CPU. Will this run better, worse or no differently > > with the 64 bit OS over the 32 bit? > 64 bit. This is mostly because the swit

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Best thing then is to set up a 2-drive system, put some non-critical data files in the home directories and try it out then. Although presumably, if I do manage to balls up the IDs and block the data, then it's just a case of logging in as root and sorting out permissions?? Cheers Phil On 5 Sep

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Alternately, you can configure /etc/fstab to mount your home directory based on something else, including possibly drive letter (iffy, because that can move around based on the order things are detected) or filesystem label (which could be set to some

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: A little bit of tinkering is necessary. You'll need to make sure you use the same numeric user IDs and group IDs -- file ownership is really based on the numbers, and the name is associated by looking in /etc/password. So if the name matches but the n

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
So it's turning out much as I thought then, some of it will be fairly transparent, but It'll still need a bit of tinkering / tweaking. Looking like I'll have to learn about numeric user IDs, group IDs and partition-specific UUIDs though. But learning is a big part of why I'm doing this. Cheers Mat

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:10:58PM +0100, Bat Phil wrote: > 1. I am using older hardware - AMD Semperon 3000+ (socket 754), which I > understand is a 64 bit CPU. Will this run better, worse or no differently > with the 64 bit OS over the 32 bit? 64 bit. This is mostly because the switch also enabl

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Marvin Kosmal
HI I am not on a fedora box right now but, if memory serves me right. All users are kept in /etc/shadow/ and the other file would be /etc/passwd. If you copies those two files over I believe you would be OK.. Someone can second this. I haven't done this in a LONG time. HTH Marvin On Fri,

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Got it Marvin, cheers Phil On 5 September 2014 19:56, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > No .. > > You need to recreate all the users accounts on the new install. > > HTH > > Marvin > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Bat Phil wrote: > >> Thanks for your reply Joe. >> >> I figured (but didn't m

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Well that's easy then, I can cope with that. Thanks again Joe Phil On 5 September 2014 19:51, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/05/2014 11:46 AM, Bat Phil wrote: > >> I figured (but didn't make it clear) that I'd have to tell anaconda >> about the existing home partition on the second drive. I was wond

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Marvin Kosmal
No .. You need to recreate all the users accounts on the new install. HTH Marvin On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Bat Phil wrote: > Thanks for your reply Joe. > > I figured (but didn't make it clear) that I'd have to tell anaconda about > the existing home partition on the second drive. I

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 11:47 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: Slightly to the left. How do I configure google mail to let me bottom post? Mostly I use Thunderbird. I do have a gmail account, and when I'm replying to somebody there I simply move the cursor down to the bottom where it belongs. There may be

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 11:46 AM, Bat Phil wrote: I figured (but didn't make it clear) that I'd have to tell anaconda about the existing home partition on the second drive. I was wondering more about whether it would then automatically create the pre-existing user accounts and whether all previous e-mails

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Marvin Kosmal
Hi Slightly to the left. How do I configure google mail to let me bottom post? I googled and just found references to grease monkey and that didn't get me anywhere. Thanks Marvin PS Great group On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/05/2014 11:10 AM, Bat Phil wrote: > >

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Thanks for your reply Joe. I figured (but didn't make it clear) that I'd have to tell anaconda about the existing home partition on the second drive. I was wondering more about whether it would then automatically create the pre-existing user accounts and whether all previous e-mails and settings w

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 11:10 AM, Bat Phil wrote: 3. Am I correct in my assumption that my mail client (I will be using Thunderbird) stores all its e-mails and settings in a hidden directory within the home directory? ~/.thunderbird to be exact. 4. If I do a reinstall later, will the OS pick up that

Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Hello all Please forgive my ignorance, but I've decided to upgrade to Linux. I've had a play with both Ubuntu and Fedora 20 (both with the LXDE desktop) and done a few installs, updates, application installs, etc. and am getting more confident / knowledgeable as I go. I have decided to go for Fed