Allegedly, on or about 05 October 2016, JD sent:
> I am wondering why they (and others like broadcom) keep their drivers
> proprietary.
Educated guess: Paranoia that it'll aid competitors, or that someone
will find out they've copied someone else's work into their product.
From my perspective, o
On Tue, 2016-10-11 at 09:48 -0800, Fred wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:52:49 +0100
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As I sa
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 19:52:49 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to
> > > reduce
> > > power co
On 10/07/2016 02:03 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 11:38 -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>> as for nvidia site, check to see if you can find a more proper driver at;
>>
>> http://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx
>
> That's where the drivers come from, via RPMfusion.
>
On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 16:28 -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 01:07:54PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> >
> > On 10/10/2016 12:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, apparently the savings might not offset the price of the ammeter,
> > > but I suppose the advancement of kn
On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 14:38 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> There are a number of sites like that. Google "linux hardware
> compatibility". A good resource is http://www.linux-drivers.org/
The dongle is labelled "Anycom 2.0", but I don't know the chipset and a
search for "anycom" on that page gives n
On 10/10/2016 02:16 PM, JD wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 12:31 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > On 10/10/2016 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 12:31 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > On 10/10/2016 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patric
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 01:07:54PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/10/2016 12:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >Well, apparently the savings might not offset the price of the ammeter,
> >but I suppose the advancement of knowledge always has a cost :-)
>
> I remember back in the late '80s seeing
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 07:52:49PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >
> > > As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to
> > > reduce power consumptio
On 10/10/2016 03:31 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 10/10/2016 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to
reduce
power con
On 10/10/2016 12:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Well, apparently the savings might not offset the price of the ammeter,
but I suppose the advancement of knowledge always has a cost :-)
I remember back in the late '80s seeing a study that found that the cost
per hour of running a desktop (38
On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 12:31 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 10/10/2016 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As I said, I'm hap
On 10/10/2016 11:52 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
>> On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to
>>> reduce
>>> power consumption at night (this is
On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 11:42 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> >
> > As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to
> > reduce
> > power consumption at night (this isn't a server that has to be on all
> > the time).
>
On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> As I said, I'm happy enough with suspend for now. My aim was to
> reduce
> power consumption at night (this isn't a server that has to be on all
> the time).
I dont' think computers use that much power (least normal workstations
anyw
On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 11:38 -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
> computers are like a light bulb, leave the light on and it will last
> longer than it will by having to deal with inrush current when turned
> on from a cold state.
>
> if you feel that you must save power, consider 'save to memory'. i
On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 11:38 -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
> as for nvidia site, check to see if you can find a more proper driver at;
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx
That's where the drivers come from, via RPMfusion.
> as for 'on all the time', i agree about your saving power.
On 10/07/2016 10:35 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 09:22 -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
>> you do not mention if problem system is a desktop or laptop, tho such
>> may not matter.
>
> It's desktop with an added Nvidia card.
>
>> in following your thread, there are a coupl
On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 09:22 -0500, geo.inbox.ignored wrote:
> you do not mention if problem system is a desktop or laptop, tho such
> may not matter.
It's desktop with an added Nvidia card.
> in following your thread, there are a couple things that i wonder about.
>
> 1- did problem start after
On 10/07/2016 05:11 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
<<<>>>
> I understand that, however the issue isn't that Steam doesn't work, but
> that some FPS-type games are too laggy to be usable, i.e. the problem
> is performance rather than function. I may look into it at some point
> but for now I've j
On Thu, 2016-10-06 at 21:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 10/06/2016 03:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2016-10-06 at 06:33 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't have a problem with Steam. As long as I use the Nvidia drivers
> > > > it works perfectly
On 10/06/2016 03:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2016-10-06 at 06:33 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
I don't have a problem with Steam. As long as I use the Nvidia drivers
it works perfectly well. My problem is with hibernation. See the thread
starting at:
You mentioned problems wi
On Thu, 2016-10-06 at 06:33 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> > I don't have a problem with Steam. As long as I use the Nvidia drivers
> > it works perfectly well. My problem is with hibernation. See the thread
> > starting at:
> >
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.
>
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <
> pocallag...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > > >
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the
> > > > Nouvea
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the
> > > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings.
> >
> > I don't know what Steam is...
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the
> > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings.
>
> I don't know what Steam is
It's a commercial gaming platform which is supported on Linux. I'm
Le 05/10/2016 18:40, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit :
> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 17:50 +0200, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
>> FWIW, I have reverted from the NVIDIA driver to nouveau quite often by
>> simply doing
>> $ sudo dnf remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
>> which also removed most of the dependencies
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 17:50 +0200, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
> > FWIW, I have reverted from the NVIDIA driver to nouveau quite often by
> > simply doing
> > $ sudo dnf remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
> > which also removed most of the
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 17:50 +0200, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
> FWIW, I have reverted from the NVIDIA driver to nouveau quite often by
> simply doing
> $ sudo dnf remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
> which also removed most of the dependencies you have mentioned. After
> that I could reboot into nou
FWIW, I have reverted from the NVIDIA driver to nouveau quite often by
simply doing
$ sudo dnf remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
which also removed most of the dependencies you have mentioned. After
that I could reboot into nouveau without any other alterations - just to
notice that nouveau is not
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 06:39 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 11:30:42 +0100
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> >
> > BTW, loading the nouveau module with modprobe works, once the system is
> > booted, i.e. it's not a problem with the module itself.
>
> Maybe it is missing in the ini
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:42 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 05/10/2016 12:23, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit :
> >
> > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:17 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d
> > >
> > > Delete:
> > >
> > > /usr/lib
Le 05/10/2016 12:23, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit :
> On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:17 +0200, François Patte wrote:
>>> - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d
>>
>> Delete:
>>
>> /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf
>
> As I said above, I already did that.
No! You deleted /etc/m
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 11:30:42 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> BTW, loading the nouveau module with modprobe works, once the system is
> booted, i.e. it's not a problem with the module itself.
Maybe it is missing in the initrd? Perhaps try "dracut --force" after
manually loading it?
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:22 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 05/10/2016 12:17, François Patte a écrit :
> >
> > Le 05/10/2016 12:02, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit :
> > >
> > > Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather
> > > resuming) I decided to reduce the number of var
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:22 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 05/10/2016 12:17, François Patte a écrit :
> >
> > Le 05/10/2016 12:02, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit :
> > >
> > > Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather
> > > resuming) I decided to reduce the number of var
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:17 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d
>
> Delete:
>
> /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf
As I said above, I already did that.
poc
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Le 05/10/2016 12:17, François Patte a écrit :
> Le 05/10/2016 12:02, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit :
>> Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather
>> resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the
>> proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following:
>>
>
Le 05/10/2016 12:02, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit :
> Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather
> resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the
> proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following:
>
> - Removed all Nvidia-related rpms (i.e. everything
Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather
resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the
proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following:
- Removed all Nvidia-related rpms (i.e. everything with Nvidia in the
name, i.e.:
kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.5-200.
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