Re: Installation Impressions

2011-03-09 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Nikolaus Rath writes: > Hello, > > I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora > 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: > > I don't have a CD writer at hand, so I downloaded the netinstall image. > Following the instructions in the installation guide, I copied vml

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-08 Thread Tomas Hajek
>From one that has used SuSE, OpenSuSE, Mandrake, Mandriva, Ubuntu, Debian, >Redhat before fedora, Fedora, RedHat, CentOS, Scientific Linux, Knoppix, DSL, Unbreakable Linux, EEEbuntu, and a dozen other distros over that last 12 years I: For Home use CentOS for a server and Fedora for my desktop a

RE: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread paul weston
i do believe you have had an unfortunate and rare occurrence while installing the most advanced linux OS i have been installing fedora since fedora 8 came out and up until the latest ubuntu came out (10.10) Fedora has been much easier for me personally to install. Usually taking a max of 3 hr

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 10:40 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > I found this in my Junk folder on Thunderbird. Checking, it was sent > to "Undisclosed Recipients." Please don't do that, as I doubt I'm the > only one on this list who considers that a sign of spam. Possibly due to them posting through the gm

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 09:39 -0800, suvayu ali wrote: > Fedora uses a patched version of GRUB Legacy. It can read / partitions > on LVM but the /boot partition still needs to be ext* on disk. Hmm, isn't it more the case that the *kernel* reads the LVM partitions? GRUB starts loading the kernel, wh

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 02/05/2011 01:16 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> >> How come that Fedora sticks with GRUB Legacy? One of my reasons for >> wanting to try Fedora was to get quicker access to new features, so I'm >> really surprised to find that the first th

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 5 February 2011 20:53, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > suvayu ali writes: >>> Ugh. So I have hundreds of free GBs in my LVM VGs, but I won't be able >>> to install Fedora? Is there no way around this? >> >> Well you have two options I think, >> >> 1. the obvious first, resize your LVMs to free 500 MB a

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/05/2011 12:53 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > JFTR, unfortunately PVs cannot be made smaller. The whole idea of LVM is > to do all the resize operations*within* the containers. This, however, is a special case because /boot needs to be a regular partition, not part of an LVM. Personally, for h

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
suvayu ali writes: >> Ugh. So I have hundreds of free GBs in my LVM VGs, but I won't be able >> to install Fedora? Is there no way around this? > > Well you have two options I think, > > 1. the obvious first, resize your LVMs to free 500 MB and use it as >/boot JFTR, unfortunately PVs cannot

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Gilboa Davara writes: > On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora >> 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: > > I wonder, what exactly were you trying to achieve? > Beyond a possible (?) bu

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 02/05/2011 01:16 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > How come that Fedora sticks with GRUB Legacy? One of my reasons for > wanting to try Fedora was to get quicker access to new features, so I'm > really surprised to find that the first thing that I get in contact with > is an outdated GRUB... Grub-2.0

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/04/2011 02:54 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora > 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: I found this in my Junk folder on Thunderbird. Checking, it was sent to "Undisclosed Recipients." Please don't do that, as I doub

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 20:29 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora > > 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: > > I wonder, what exactly were you trying

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 17:54 -0500, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora > 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: I wonder, what exactly were you trying to achieve? Beyond a possible (?) bug report when dealing with your sw

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Fedora uses a patched version of GRUB Legacy. It can read / partitions >> on LVM but the /boot partition still needs to be ext* on disk. > > How come that Fedora sticks with GRUB Legacy? One of my reasons for > wanting to try Fedora was to g

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Nikolaus Rath
suvayu ali writes: > I don't know about your other issues, but I'll try to answer the ones below. > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Alright, so I'll do without swap for now. Next thing the installer >> complains that I cannot put my root partition into LVM2. This works j

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread suvayu ali
I don't know about your other issues, but I'll try to answer the ones below. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Alright, so I'll do without swap for now. Next thing the installer > complains that I cannot put my root partition into LVM2. This works just > fine with Grub2, and

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:19:03 -0600 Thomas Paine wrote: > Honestly fedora is going to give you more trouble. I would install centos if > you want an rpm based install. It will save you headache when you get to the > pulse audio issues if you stay away from fedora. I don;t know about that. I hav

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas Paine
Honestly fedora is going to give you more trouble. I would install centos if you want an rpm based install. It will save you headache when you get to the pulse audio issues if you stay away from fedora. You can also use Ubuntu 10.10 which I am currently using. If you want to get fedora to install