Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-08 Thread lee
"Patrick Dupre" writes: > OK, > > I run fine, > Thus I deleted some big files. > > recover some room on the / > /dev/sdb6                          6192704  5216872    661260  89% / > > but then again: > /dev/sdb6                          6192704  5532276    345856  95% / > > I guess that it is th

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
OK, I run fine, Thus I deleted some big files. recover some room on the / /dev/sdb6                          6192704  5216872    661260  89% / but then again: /dev/sdb6                          6192704  5532276    345856  95% / I guess that it is the /var which grows up to fast! I have /usr /t

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-07 Thread lee
"Patrick Dupre" writes: > Hello, > > I have a /var/log/messages file of size: 74197292 > Is it resonable? That depends on what´s in it. Under some circumstances, there can be quite a bit of logging going on. Logrotate is supposed to deal with it and might not have a chance to when your compute

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:24:09 +0100 "Patrick Dupre" wrote: > OK, > > Can I force it? > logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf > > did not help. > ls -l /var/log/messages ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
OK, Can I force it? logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf did not help. > On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 02:34:20 +0100 > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > I have a /var/log/messages file of size: 74197292 > > Is it resonable? > > Probably not. Is logrotate turned off or not installed? > > Here's my logs: > > zoo

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 02:34:20 +0100 Patrick Dupre wrote: > I have a /var/log/messages file of size: 74197292 > Is it resonable? Probably not. Is logrotate turned off or not installed? Here's my logs: zooty> ls -l /var/log/messages* -rw--- 1 root root 289231 Mar 6 19:59 /var/log/messages -rw

Re: /var/log/messages ful of rpc.statd select: Bad file descriptor lines

2013-04-07 Thread Steve Searle
Around 09:11pm on Friday, April 05, 2013 (UK time), Rick Stevens scrawled: > Make sure your mountd daemon has been updated. Also, if that machine > isn't an NFS server, disable mountd: > > systemctl stop nfs-mountd.service > systemctl disable nfs-mountd.service Thanks. This isn't a n

Re: /var/log/messages ful of rpc.statd select: Bad file descriptor lines

2013-04-05 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/05/2013 09:47 AM, Steve Searle issued this missive: On three or four occasions now on one of my Fedora 18 machines warns that I am running out of space on /var (it has its own partition). This is due to /var/log/messages being full of rpc.statd[1282]: my_svc_run() - select: Bad file descrip

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 17:40, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 05:23 PM, jdow wrote: Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works. Until last month when Social Security kicked in, I had no income. Literally. A "cheap replacement drive" is still a big chunk of my monthly income,

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 05:23 PM, jdow wrote: Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works. Until last month when Social Security kicked in, I had no income. Literally. A "cheap replacement drive" is still a big chunk of my monthly income, not to be considered lightly, espe

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 17:16, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 04:29 PM, jdow wrote: (Joe MIGHT have been wise to move to 15 from 14 then move to 16 from 15 as the upgrade path would have smaller changes. 14 to 15 might have properly caught his syslogd problem. I'm not looking forward to the day the RHEL p

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 04:29 PM, jdow wrote: (Joe MIGHT have been wise to move to 15 from 14 then move to 16 from 15 as the upgrade path would have smaller changes. 14 to 15 might have properly caught his syslogd problem. I'm not looking forward to the day the RHEL path adopts systemd. It sounds like mor

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 16:53, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 13:16 -0800, jdow wrote: One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!" One could observe that this is a sign of acceptance of sl

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 13:16 -0800, jdow wrote: > One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe > your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!" > One could observe that this is a sign of acceptance of sloppiness. And there > are more things

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 14:19, Reindl Harald wrote: On 22.12.2011 22:16, jdow wrote: Careful sir, you just stepped into the brown pile the doggie left. One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!" O

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 23:55, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/22/2011 02:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> if you call it arrogance to check what i am doing before, while and >> especially AFTER a dist-upgrade so i am arrogant - better this than >> doing anything without verify > > No, but it is arrogance to put an

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 02:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: if you call it arrogance to check what i am doing before, while and especially AFTER a dist-upgrade so i am arrogant - better this than doing anything without verify No, but it is arrogance to put another member of the list (me, as it happens) for n

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 22:16, jdow wrote: > Careful sir, you just stepped into the brown pile the doggie left. > > One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe > your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!" > One could observe that this is a sig

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 4:16 PM, jdow wrote: Your arrogance seems to have tripped you up, sir. his posts drip with disdain, lording his far superior practices, and heaping scorn on the lesser mortals he's supposedly here to help...(at least, I thought that was the purpose of this list) -- Claude Jone

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 4:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 11:24 AM, Claude Jones wrote: On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918 thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report Great!

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 01:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: however, do not check this after dist-upgrades is a epic-fail how do you debig all the other problems you wrote about if least your syslog does not work? Apples and oranges here, because you're working in a production environment and I'm only deali

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 10:58, Reindl Harald wrote: On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the user had previously configured."

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 21:57, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/22/2011 10:58 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> > On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: >> "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with >> default >> start and stop policy from t

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 11:24 AM, Claude Jones wrote: On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918 thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report Great! I see that you got hit going from F15 t

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 10:58 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: >> "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default >> start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the >> user had previous

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 10:44 AM, Claude Jones wrote: I tried, but your link just took me into the login page; I logged in and then I got an error saying "You must specify a product first" - Tried a second time, but only got a blank bug reporting page ready to be filled in - no trace in all of this of your

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918 thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/12/11 18:56, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Just did it on an F15> F16, rsyslog came up enabled and running. Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box. rsyslog was converted to systemd in F15, so F15->F16 would have just retained the enabl

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: >> "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default >> start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the >> user had previously configured." > > In other words, the new rule is

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Just did it on an F15 > F16, > rsyslog came up enabled and running. > Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box. rsyslog was converted to systemd in F15, so F15->F16 would have just retained the enabled state in systemd. -T.C. -- users maili

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Just did it on an F15 > F16, rsyslog came up enabled and running. Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box. I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918 -- users mailing list users@list

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Just did it on an F15 > F16, rsyslog came up enabled and running. Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box. It's possible that the upgrade method is significant. I used preupgrade on both my desktop and laptop. The bug struck the desktop but I've y

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: If this is true, it does seem like a radical change. What possible argument could there be for not logging by default? I recently saw that the proper way to shut down Linux from the command line is poweroff. The old command halt now halts the

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 1:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 01:03 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: The fact that it's not being enabled in practice is definitely a bug, and someone experiencing this should file it. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/post_bug.cgi I'd appreciate anybody else on the list f

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the user had previously configured." In other words, the new rule is to assume that whoever set the system up and runs

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: Tim sets the super pedant mode... Do some more research. What I did *is* accepted correct modern usage of "begs the question." It's still wrong, just as "Me and Jim went to the mall." is, even though most people under about 25 or so would swear it's correc

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 01:03 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: The fact that it's not being enabled in practice is definitely a bug, and someone experiencing this should file it. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/post_bug.cgi I'd appreciate anybody else on the list finding this adding comments to the bug

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/12/11 15:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So, whatever you had set up beforehand is ignored, and the new default is implemented. Not logging, by default, doesn't seem a good idea. If this is true, it does seem like a radical change. What possible argument could there be for not logging b

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 01:47 +1030, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a > >> fault? > > Rahul Sundaram: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs#Upgrade_from_previous_releases_resets_the_enablement_status_of_services > > > Well

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a >> fault? Rahul Sundaram: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs#Upgrade_from_previous_releases_resets_the_enablement_status_of_services Well, that seems to suggest that the new default is not to log. "Th

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just >> a fault? Joe Zeff: > > No, it doesn't, it asks the question. Begging the question is > something entirely different which would better be called assuming > your conclusion. Tim sets the super pedant mode... Do som

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 02:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. I wouldn't mind being the reporter, but I

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 10:51, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/22/2011 10:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> On 22.12.2011 07:27, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:30:50 +1030 Tim wrote: > Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a > fault? Maybe doing an upgrade doesn't transfer the on/off setting from the old chkconfig info to the new systemd info? Maybe syslog is merely the most noticable of the service

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2011 10:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: On 22.12.2011 07:27, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 07:27, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by >> the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. >> >> If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. > > I wouldn't mind being the rep

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 12/22/2011 12:30 PM, Tim wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html >> >> Begs the question:  Has this no-logging become a new default,

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/22/2011 12:30 PM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html > > Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a > fault? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2011 08:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. I wouldn't mind being the reporter, but I

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. I wouldn't mind being the reporter, but I'd like to know if anybody else sees thi

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 08:10 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/22/2011 08:00 AM, Tim wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> > >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html > > > > Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new de

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 11:00 PM, Tim wrote: Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? No, it doesn't, it asks the question. Begging the question is something entirely different which would better be called assuming your conclusion. The term comes from a form of

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2011 08:00 AM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? I would call it a functional regression having be

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replie

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 01:13 PM, Alan J. Gagne wrote: Try here ! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd Thanx, Alan, I've bookmarked it JIC. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guideline

RE:/var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Alan J. Gagne
Try here ! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: h

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 12:04 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 21/12/11 19:59, Joe Zeff wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Excellent. Thank you. The odd thing here is that the link mentioned in that post already existed. And, I'd still appreciate a cheat she

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/12/11 19:59, Joe Zeff wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-09-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.08.2011 15:38, schrieb antonio.montagn...@alice.it: >>> How is it possible?? >> > >> Are you running F15? >> >> Try systemctl restart syslog.target . There was a bug > in F15 that >> caused this. I can't remember the fix, though. You might try > >> systemctl enable syslog.service . >

Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 08:55 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 14:11:15 antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: > > I checked all files in var/log and in particular I found these files are 0 > > bytes. > > > > How is it possible?? > > Are you running F15? > > Try systemc

Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread stan
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:38:01 +0200 (CEST) "antonio.montagn...@alice.it" wrote: > [root@Acer antonio] > # systemctl enable syslog.service > Couldn't find syslog.service. > > > what is > wrong?? The system is called rsyslog. Run systemctl -a -t service | less to see all the services availab

R: Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
>Messaggio originale >Da: m...@avtechpulse.com >Data: 31-ago-2011 15.59 >A: >Ogg: Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty > >> [root@Acer antonio] >> # systemctl enable syslog.service >> Couldn't find syslog.service. > > &g

Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
> [root@Acer antonio] > # systemctl enable syslog.service > Couldn't find syslog.service. systemctl enable rsyslog.service (add the "r") - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/us

R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
>Messaggio originale >Da: gtwilli...@gmail.com >Data: 31-ago-2011 14.55 >A: "antonio.montagn...@alice.it", "Community support for Fedora users" >Ogg: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty > >On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 14:11:15 antonio.mo

Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 14:11:15 antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: > I checked all files in var/log and in particular I found these files are 0 > bytes. > > How is it possible?? Are you running F15? Try systemctl restart syslog.target . There was a bug in F15 that caused this. I can't

Re: /var/log/messages empty

2011-07-13 Thread jarmo
jarmo kirjoitti keskiviikko, 13. heinäkuuta 2011 17:51:03: > does write nothing into messages. > Where to look solution? Just found something... In /etc/rsyslog.conf: RULES

Re: /var/log/messages is empty

2011-06-11 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 22:06:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > All the same, I can't help wondering why this wasn't considered a > blocker, given that it was known about before F15 was released. QA called it a "nice to have". I think they thought it was going to be fixed in a zero-day update:

Re: /var/log/messages is empty

2011-06-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 08:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/12/2011 08:54 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > According to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699198 it > > depends when you did the upgrade. Early birds got screwed on this one. > > I knew there would be a reward for procras

Re: /var/log/messages is empty

2011-06-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/12/2011 08:54 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > According to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699198 it > depends when you did the upgrade. Early birds got screwed on this one. I knew there would be a reward for procrastination. :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapro

Re: /var/log/messages is empty

2011-06-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 07:57 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/12/2011 07:17 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I just had occasion to look at /var/log/messages for the first time in a > > while and there's nothing in it. I think this dates from my updating F14 > > to F15. > > > > /etc/syslog.conf lo

Re: /var/log/messages is empty

2011-06-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 20:20 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On Saturday, June 11, 2011 19:17:09 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I just had occasion to look at /var/log/messages for the first time > > in a while and there's nothing in it. I think this dates from my > > updating F14 to F15. > > Thi

Re: /var/log/messages is empty

2011-06-11 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 19:17:09 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I just had occasion to look at /var/log/messages for the first time > in a while and there's nothing in it. I think this dates from my > updating F14 to F15. This is a bug[*] in the F15 update. The fix is: sudo systemctl enable

Re: /var/log/messages is empty

2011-06-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/12/2011 07:17 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I just had occasion to look at /var/log/messages for the first time in a > while and there's nothing in it. I think this dates from my updating F14 > to F15. > > /etc/syslog.conf looks normal. This is the relevant stanza: > > # Log anythi

Re: /var/log/messages is empty after upgrade to f15

2011-06-11 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:05:20 Garry T. Williams wrote: > On Saturday, June 11, 2011 06:08:10 Joshua C. wrote: > > After I upgraded ot f15 I see that all messages are sent to dmesg > > but after several days the /var/log/messages is still empty. So my > > logs get deleted after every restart.

Re: /var/log/messages is empty after upgrade to f15

2011-06-11 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Joshua C. wrote: > > After I upgraded ot f15 I see that all messages are sent to dmesg but > after several days the /var/log/messages is still empty. So my logs > get deleted after every restart. How to fix this? Check "/etc/rsyslog.conf" for a "/var/log/messages"

Re: /var/log/messages is empty after upgrade to f15

2011-06-11 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 06:08:10 Joshua C. wrote: > After I upgraded ot f15 I see that all messages are sent to dmesg > but after several days the /var/log/messages is still empty. So my > logs get deleted after every restart. How to fix this? sudo systemctl enable rsyslog.service sudo

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 14:47 +0100, Mark Knoop wrote: > At 07:40 on 01 Jun 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 05:22 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:51:18 +0930 > > > Tim wrote: > > > > > > > You mean like the old boot.log file, that was going to be > >

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-06-01 Thread Mark Knoop
At 07:40 on 01 Jun 2011, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 05:22 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:51:18 +0930 > > Tim wrote: > > > > > You mean like the old boot.log file, that was going to be > > > improved, and was disabled in the meantime, then never was > >

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 05:22 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:51:18 +0930 > Tim wrote: > > > You mean like the old boot.log file, that was going to be improved, and > > was disabled in the meantime, then never was improved? > > Look again :-). All the changes to boot graphically

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-06-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:51:18 +0930 Tim wrote: > You mean like the old boot.log file, that was going to be improved, and > was disabled in the meantime, then never was improved? Look again :-). All the changes to boot graphically brought with them one good feature - there is a boot.log file now. -

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 11:51 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 12:12 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I think it would be simpler if each new boot simply started a > > new log file. > > You mean like the old boot.log file, that was going to be improved, and > was disabled in the meanti

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-31 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 12:12 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I think it would be simpler if each new boot simply started a > new log file. You mean like the old boot.log file, that was going to be improved, and was disabled in the meantime, then never was improved? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/31/2011 07:25 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: > It is far easier to add: echo "Completed boot at `date`" > > to the bottom of /etc/rc.d/rc.local > > Then it does not matter whether the system is using the old method or > systemd and whether it is writing to 'messages' or boot.log. The whole point

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 12:28 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 31 May 2011 10:17:56 -0600 > Phil Meyer wrote: > > > So in summary, if you see a syslog startup, followed within a few lines > > by the word ' Linux ', and what comes after that appear to be BIOS info, > > and that all these message

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 31 May 2011 10:17:56 -0600 Phil Meyer wrote: > So in summary, if you see a syslog startup, followed within a few lines > by the word ' Linux ', and what comes after that appear to be BIOS info, > and that all these messages happen in the same second or two, you have > found the top of t

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-31 Thread Phil Meyer
On 05/31/2011 08:25 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 18:36 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: Just for curiosity, why has no one ever arranged to log something like "Hey! I'm booting the system again!" as the very first line in that goes to /var/log/messages when

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-31 Thread R. G. Newbury
> On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 18:36 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >> > Just for curiosity, why has no one ever arranged to >> > log something like "Hey! I'm booting the system again!" >> > as the very first line in that goes to /var/log/messages >> > when the system is booting? > I used to do something l

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Robert Nichols
On 05/30/2011 09:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Tom Horsley wrote: >> >>> If would be real convenient to have a known string to >>> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages >>> in a new boot. >> >> I agree. >> Even a couple of blank lines w

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 19:07 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Tom Horsley wrote: > > > >> If would be real convenient to have a known string to > >> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages > >> in a new boot. > > > > I agree. > > Even a coup

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 18:36 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > Just for curiosity, why has no one ever arranged to > log something like "Hey! I'm booting the system again!" > as the very first line in that goes to /var/log/messages > when the system is booting? I used to do something like that back when

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread john wendel
On 05/30/2011 07:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Tom Horsley wrote: >> >>> If would be real convenient to have a known string to >>> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages >>> in a new boot. >> >> I agree. >> Even a couple of blank lines w

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > >> If would be real convenient to have a known string to >> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages >> in a new boot. > > I agree. > Even a couple of blank lines would help. > > Indeed. Am I the only one on the

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tom Horsley wrote: > If would be real convenient to have a known string to > search for that always precedes the rest of the messages > in a new boot. I agree. Even a couple of blank lines would help. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-m

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:05:07 -0700 Peter Gordon wrote: > imklog 5.7.9, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Yea, the same thing starts mine, but I just thought it would be nice to have something more obvious (and perhaps less likely to change someday :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: /var/log/messages question

2011-05-30 Thread Peter Gordon
On 05/30/2011 03:36 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > If would be real convenient to have a known string to > search for that always precedes the rest of the messages > in a new boot. You could try grep'ing for the Linux version string, always one of the first several lines printed during kernel startup. T