Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling > it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it, > afresh. I haven't quite done that, but I have something new to report. The following is quoted fro

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-07 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/07/2011 09:53 AM, JB wrote: > Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes: > >> >> >> On 12/07/2011 03:14 AM, JB wrote: >>> JB gmail.com> writes: >>> ... >>> >>> To make my point clear. >>> >>> In general, the resuce mode turns all services of

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-07 Thread JB
Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes: > > > On 12/07/2011 03:14 AM, JB wrote: > > JB gmail.com> writes: > > > >> ... > > > > To make my point clear. > > > > In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose > > of preserving the original troubled environment (machine state) an

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-07 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/07/2011 03:14 AM, JB wrote: > JB gmail.com> writes: > >> ... > > To make my point clear. > > In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose > of preserving the original troubled environment (machine state) and > preventing

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-07 Thread JB
JB gmail.com> writes: > ... To make my point clear. In general, the resuce mode turns all services off for the purpose of preserving the original troubled environment (machine state) and preventing any worsening of it until it can be investigated or fixed. So it seems a rescue mode should not

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread JB
Marko Vojinovic gmail.com> writes: > ... > > > > Case: > > - I disable selinux > > # cat /etc/sysconfig/selinux ... > > SELINUX=disabled > > - I reboot the system, > > - /.autorelabel created by sys init, > > - I enable selinux again, > > - I reboot with intention to boot rescue mode kernel

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 22:16:40 JB wrote: > Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes: > > ... > > SELinux relabeling is caused by booting a rescue mode kernel. As soon > > as you boot a system with SELinux disabled, the init system creates > > the /.autorelabel file, so the next time it boots with

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread JB
Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes: > ... > SELinux relabeling is caused by booting a rescue mode kernel. As soon > as you boot a system with SELinux disabled, the init system creates > the /.autorelabel file, so the next time it boots with SELinux it will > relabel. > Question: Are you not se

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/2011 02:44 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/06/2011 11:31 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: >> Is there an error is /etc/sysconfig/selinux? > > No. SELinux relabeling is caused by booting a rescue mode kernel. As soon as you boot a system with SELinux disa

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/06/2011 11:31 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > Is there an error is /etc/sysconfig/selinux? No. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailin

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread Terry Polzin
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 10:52 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/06/2011 06:13 AM, JB wrote: > > To remove an unneeded kernel: > > # yum list installed "*kernel*" > > ... > > kernel.i686 3.1.1-1.fc16 > > @updates > > ... > > # yum remove "*kernel*3.1.1-1.fc1

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/06/2011 06:13 AM, JB wrote: > To remove an unneeded kernel: > # yum list installed "*kernel*" > ... > kernel.i686 3.1.1-1.fc16 > @updates > ... > # yum remove "*kernel*3.1.1-1.fc16*" > > Now, reboot your system to your latest F16 kernel and see w

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 13:37 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > Currently, the laptop goes into emergency mode and hangs two out of > three times if I use the newest kernel. The third time it continues > until it says that SELinux needs to relabel things and that it might > take a while. Then it just sit

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-06 Thread JB
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > > Currently, the laptop goes into emergency mode and hangs two out of > three times if I use the newest kernel. The third time it continues > until it says that SELinux needs to relabel things and that it might > take a while. Change selinux config to this (for t

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/05/2011 05:57 PM, Craig White wrote: > I am under the impression that you can change the 'installonly_limit' > value in /etc/yum.conf (of which kernel is definitely one of those) but > to be honest, I've never tinkered with it. I've also heard that, but wasn't sure just where it was. I wond

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-05 Thread Joe Zeff
Currently, the laptop goes into emergency mode and hangs two out of three times if I use the newest kernel. The third time it continues until it says that SELinux needs to relabel things and that it might take a while. Then it just sits with no disk activity until I power cycle it. If I try

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling > it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it, > afresh. I used yumex to do a full update on my laptop, having it remove the most recent kernel as wel

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling > it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it, > afresh. More info, now that I've had the time to play with my laptop. First, the kernel in question

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2011 02:15 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > It's not clear if your grubby warnings are due to the old grub 1 config, > or the current grub 2 config. If it's grub 1, deleting grub.cfg will > shut grubby up. If it's grub 2, I found that rerunning grub2-mkconfig > generates a new grub 2 config fi

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 12/01/2011 04:02 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > As log as grubby did its job with grub2, there is no issue. > > If grubby is having a problem with grub2, using grub2-mkconfig should > fix it. More thoughts. Remember, Sam, that I can't boot into the new kernel so there might b

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2011 12:38 PM, Terry Polzin wrote: > Can you boot into rescue mode from install media (don't forget to enable > the network) and mount the filesystems? > > chroot /mnt/sysimage ; then try another yum update see if a newer kernel > yet will fix things. Why? I can, and do boot into the las

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-01 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 12:17 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/01/2011 04:02 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > As log as grubby did its job with grub2, there is no issue. > > > > If grubby is having a problem with grub2, using grub2-mkconfig should > > fix it. > > More thoughts. Remember, Sam, that I ca

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2011 04:02 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > As log as grubby did its job with grub2, there is no issue. > > If grubby is having a problem with grub2, using grub2-mkconfig should > fix it. More thoughts. Remember, Sam, that I can't boot into the new kernel so there might be an issue. (I jus

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/01/2011 04:02 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > If you upgraded from F15, grubby is complaining about the old grub.cfg. > This is harmless. rm /etc/grub.cfg to make this complaint go away. No, from F14, but the point's still good. As to the other, I'll try it as soon as I have time, then repo

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-12-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling > it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it, > afresh. More information, now that I'm home again and have time to dig into this.

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling > it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it, > afresh. More information, now that I'm home again and have time to dig into this. I went back into t

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2011 05:05 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > You may want to run "yum reinstall" instead. I am > not 100% sure, but it should generate a new initrd. I've just gotten home and haven't had time to bring in everything (too tired) let alone set up my laptop. However, man yum has this to say

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-27 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/27/2011 10:19 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >> Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling >> it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it, >> afresh.

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling > it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it, > afresh. That's probably the best idea of all. I don't remember your mentioning it before and don't

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2011 04:09 AM, JB wrote: > From there you can run all you can, e.g. > # fsck > # package-cleanup --dupes > # package-cleanup --problems > # rpm -V -a --quiet > and whatever else you wish I suspect that things aren't quite as bad as you think; I'm using the "badly corrupted" computer rig

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-27 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 11/26/2011 09:27 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > No, you most certainly do. Everyone who installs Fedora ends up > encrypting something. I'll bet that all your passwords in /etc/shadow > are encrypted, for example. Because that's the kind of things > libgcrypt.so.1 is responsibl

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-27 Thread JB
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > > On 11/26/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Furthermore, if you have a corrupted libcrypt.so.1, it wouldn't matter > > which kernel you're booting > > The specific message is that /sbin/sulogin failed because it coulden't > find libcrypt.so.1. > > I touche

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 09:27 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > No, you most certainly do. Everyone who installs Fedora ends up > encrypting something. I'll bet that all your passwords in /etc/shadow > are encrypted, for example. Because that's the kind of things > libgcrypt.so.1 is responsible for. I sit correc

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 11/26/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Furthermore, if you have a corrupted libcrypt.so.1, it wouldn't matter > which kernel you're booting. You wouldn't be able to boot anything. No > matter which kernel you boot, you're running the same userspace, and the > same set

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Furthermore, if you have a corrupted libcrypt.so.1, it wouldn't matter > which kernel you're booting The specific message is that /sbin/sulogin failed because it coulden't find libcrypt.so.1. I touched /forcefsck and rebooted into the F16 kernel a

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2011 09:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Furthermore, if you have a corrupted libcrypt.so.1, it wouldn't matter > which kernel you're booting. You wouldn't be able to boot anything. No > matter which kernel you boot, you're running the same userspace, and the > same set of userspace librari

Re: Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: Recently I upgraded my laptop to F16 using preupgrade. This morning, at a convention, I did a system update that included (I thought) a new kernel. The next time I booted, the system hung, with no output. I had to power-cycle to try again, this time getting error messages: it

Problem booting under F16

2011-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
Recently I upgraded my laptop to F16 using preupgrade. This morning, at a convention, I did a system update that included (I thought) a new kernel. The next time I booted, the system hung, with no output. I had to power-cycle to try again, this time getting error messages: it couldn't find l