Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-22 Thread James Szinger
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:22:13 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2/20/22 21:00, Fulko Hew wrote: > > Thanks for pointing out that app, but I fail to see how having me > > make an RPM for a > > Fedora-unsupported module avoids the problem of incompatibilities > > between newer > > Fedora sources packag

Re: Re[2]: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-22 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 12:28, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 09:05:54 AM -0400, George N. White III wrote: > > [...] > - All I know is that is that it is sorely needed ONE front-end in > Linux where one can say, as it was in the golden age of .rpm and .deb, > "I need this software. I c

Re: Re[2]: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-22 Thread M. Fioretti
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 09:05:54 AM -0400, George N. White III wrote: >   I end up spending a lot of time testing new Python versions and > new libraries to ensure they are still working properly (new > versions often have problems,  but they generally get fixed without > my help)... > > I agree that

Re: Re[2]: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-22 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 06:31, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 09:21:05 AM -0400, George N. White III wrote: > > > > Open source makes it easy for people to innovate, and we need to > > encourage experimentation, but we can't have experiments in linux > > distros. > > George, > > the co

Re: Re[2]: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-22 Thread M. Fioretti
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 09:21:05 AM -0400, George N. White III wrote: > Open source makes it easy for people to innovate, and we need to > encourage experimentation, but we can't have  experiments in linux > distros. George, the core of that post of mine is that what you say has become impossible.

Re: Re[2]: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-21 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 12:55, Marco Fioretti wrote: > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 16:05, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > And yes, I was (and always have) installed additional modules > via CPAN where Fedora doesn't have those modules. (Trouble is that > even when Fedora can deliver one of those packages, th

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/20/22 21:00, Fulko Hew wrote: Thanks for pointing out that app, but I fail to see how having me make an RPM for a Fedora-unsupported module avoids the problem of incompatibilities between newer Fedora sources packages and locally sourced packages (or locally CPAN installed modules) Or am

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-20 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 9:46 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2/20/22 07:38, Fulko Hew wrote: > > I just found my first example of the issue... > > > > I need DateTime:Event:Sunrise and there isn't a Fedora package for it. > > Careful, there are double colons needed in the name. Sorry, that was my P

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/20/22 07:38, Fulko Hew wrote: I just found my first example of the issue... I need DateTime:Event:Sunrise and there isn't a Fedora package for it. Careful, there are double colons needed in the name. There's a very handy package called "cpanspec" which helps you package cpan packages i

Re[2]: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-20 Thread Marco Fioretti
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 16:05, Fulko Hew wrote: And yes, I was (and always have) installed additional modulesvia CPAN where Fedora doesn't have those modules. (Trouble is thateven when Fedora can deliver one of those packages, they aren'tnamed the same and so it's hard to find what package to

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-20 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:14 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2/20/22 07:05, Fulko Hew wrote: > > a) I would have had to have known that it was going to need > Scalar::Utils, > > b) I would then also have to go and find what Fedora package contained > it. > > And as you showed, the name isn't the

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/20/22 07:05, Fulko Hew wrote: a) I would have had to have known that it was going to need Scalar::Utils, b) I would then also have to go and find what Fedora package contained it.    And as you showed, the name isn't the same.  That would take a lot Part b isn't that hard. You can do "d

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-20 Thread Fulko Hew
td;dr version: A newly dnf updated Perl was now failing to access/load an accessible shared object file in a perl subdirectory of my home. I moved that home subdir out of the way. Now it works. (But I still have to go back and resolve what might now be missing. I.e. What was in that subdir and do

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-20 Thread Patrick Dupre
chik" > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > Subject: Re: Perl is now failing for me > > Fulko Hew writes: > > > or > > > > > > $ cpan > > Attempt to reload Scalar/Util.pm aborted. > > Looks like you have installed addit

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Fulko Hew writes: or $ cpan Attempt to reload Scalar/Util.pm aborted. Looks like you have installed additional Perl modules, bypassing Fedora's packaged perl RPMs. This is likely resulted in unintentional corruption or incompatibility with your base Fedora perl installation, in some unkn

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-19 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2/19/22 11:02, Iosif Fettich wrote: Hi Fulko, I'm not sure when it started, but on everything more complicated than print 'Hello World' my perl is failing. For example: $ perl -e 'use DateTime;' Attempt to reload List/Util.pm aborted. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/vendo

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-19 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 21:02:55 PM +0200, Iosif Fettich wrote: > Hi Fulko, > > > I'm not sure when it started, but on everything more complicated > > than print 'Hello World' my perl is failing. > > ... > Try to identify which cpan you're using (the one from Fedora repos > installed via dnf or the o

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 12:58:50 -0500 Fulko Hew wrote: > Can anyone suggest where to start? Run the command under strace to see what strange locations it is picking up perl or perl modules from. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-19 Thread Iosif Fettich
Hi Fulko, I'm not sure when it started, but on everything more complicated than print 'Hello World' my perl is failing. For example: $ perl -e 'use DateTime;'     Attempt to reload List/Util.pm aborted. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/names

Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-19 Thread Fulko Hew
I'm not sure when it started, but on everything more complicated than print 'Hello World' my perl is failing. For example: $ perl -e 'use DateTime;' Attempt to reload List/Util.pm aborted. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/namespace/ autoclean.pm line 11. BEGIN failed--