Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-09 Thread Alex
Hi, >> > Doesn't RAID get wrapped in LVM, much like disk partitions get wrapped in >> > RAID? >> > >> > If that is not the case, would you detail the steps I should follow in >> > anaconda (FC14, x86_64) to create a root (RAID5), /boot (RAID1), and >> > /home (RAID5) partitions on four disks with

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-07 Thread Alex
Hi, >> Doesn't RAID get wrapped in LVM, much like disk partitions get wrapped in >> RAID? >> >> If that is not the case, would you detail the steps I should follow in >> anaconda (FC14, x86_64) to create a root (RAID5), /boot (RAID1), and >> /home (RAID5) partitions on four disks with LVM? > > ki

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-07 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Alex wrote: > >>> IIRC, the original question had to do with a new install of F14, in >>> which case Anaconda is probably the tool the OP is expecting to use.  I >> >> Yes, absolutely - there are also other benefits to sticking with what >> anaconda >> can directly

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 13:19 +0200, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest You to try it command line. I have done it myself, for me it is > easier. (1) Please don't top post. (2) Command line is possible, but I don't find it easier. It kind of goes against the principle we've been follow

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-06 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
Hi, I suggest You to try it command line. I have done it myself, for me it is easier. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > >> IIRC, the original question had to do with a new install of F14, in > >> which case Anaconda is probably the tool the OP is expecting to use. I > > > >

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-05 Thread Alex
Hi, >> IIRC, the original question had to do with a new install of F14, in >> which case Anaconda is probably the tool the OP is expecting to use.  I > > Yes, absolutely - there are also other benefits to sticking with what anaconda > can directly configure, e.g. the ability to script the entire s

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-05 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/05/2011 02:58 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: >> I've seldom actually used this in practice as it's typically more fiddly than >> the non-partitioned equivalent but there are situations where it can be >> useful >> (generally when I need to simulate some external storage that "must" be >> partit

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 14:28 +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 01/05/2011 01:21 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > I don't think so. For Anaconda (the installer), a software RAID device > > is a collection of partitions, one per disk. You can't create the RAID > > device unless you already have part

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-05 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/05/2011 01:21 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > I don't think so. For Anaconda (the installer), a software RAID device > is a collection of partitions, one per disk. You can't create the RAID > device unless you already have partitions on the disks designated as > RAID. In the context of a set

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 22:09 -0500, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > >> raid cannot be partitioned. lvm _is_ partitioning. > > > > That's somewhat misleading, I think. As I interpret what I do to create > > software RAIDs with Fedora: > > > > 1. Partitioning is something that you do to a raw disk. > >

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-05 Thread JB
Alex gmail.com> writes: > ... > So on a system where there will never be any disks added or partitions > resized, is the extra complexity (abstraction) worthwhile? > ... LVM is a form of storage virtualization. Pros and cons of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_virtualization Another s

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-04 Thread Alex
Hi, >> raid cannot be partitioned. lvm _is_ partitioning. > > That's somewhat misleading, I think. As I interpret what I do to create > software RAIDs with Fedora: > > 1. Partitioning is something that you do to a raw disk. Or a RAID array when setting up LVM on top of it, correct? >

RE: Partitioning questions

2011-01-04 Thread Maxime Alarie
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of suvayu ali Sent: 04 January 2011 00:53 To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Partitioning questions On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Alex wrote: >&

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 12:36 +0800, Gregory Hosler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/04/2011 02:34 AM, Alex wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to install FC14 x86_64 on a quad-core AMD box with 4 1TB > > SATA disks, and have some questions about partitioning. > >

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-03 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Alex wrote: >> As for LVM it sits on top of all the physical volumes(that the kernel >> sees, /dev/sdX or in short the whatever you can list with fdisk -l). >> So the decision to use LVM is solely dependent on how flexible you >> want your disk partitioning setup to

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-03 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2011 02:34 AM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install FC14 x86_64 on a quad-core AMD box with 4 1TB > SATA disks, and have some questions about partitioning. > > I'd like to create a RAID5 array with no spares, using all four disks. > T

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-03 Thread Alex
Hi, >> Maybe I explained myself incorrectly. I'm interested in a hardware >> RAID controller, but would like to use software RAID5, and wondered if >> it was necessary (or beneficial) to use LVM in conjunction with it? > > I am not sure what you mean by this statement. What is the point of > havin

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-03 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Alex wrote: >> If you're looking for a way to have a 3TB RAID5 PV array at power on, I >> think the only way to do it is with a hardware RAID controller, such as > > Maybe I explained myself incorrectly. I'm interested in a hardware > RAID controller, but would like

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-03 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:34 -0500, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install FC14 x86_64 on a quad-core AMD box with 4 1TB > SATA disks, and have some questions about partitioning. > > I'd like to create a RAID5 array with no spares, using all four disks. > There isn't room in the chassis for

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-03 Thread Alex
Hi, >> I'd like to create a RAID5 array with no spares, using all four disks. >> There isn't room in the chassis for more disks, and they will never be >> replaced with larger ones. Should I even worry about LVM? ... > If you're looking for a way to have a 3TB RAID5 PV array at power on, I > think

Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-03 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:34 -0500, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install FC14 x86_64 on a quad-core AMD box with 4 1TB > SATA disks, and have some questions about partitioning. > > I'd like to create a RAID5 array with no spares, using all four disks. > There isn't room in the chassis for m

Partitioning questions

2011-01-03 Thread Alex
Hi, I'm trying to install FC14 x86_64 on a quad-core AMD box with 4 1TB SATA disks, and have some questions about partitioning. I'd like to create a RAID5 array with no spares, using all four disks. There isn't room in the chassis for more disks, and they will never be replaced with larger ones.