Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:31 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 12:31:21AM +0100, Tom H wrote: >> >> Project, allowing these people to work on the Project as their >> primary job function. This includes Johnny Hughes Jr, Jim Perrin, >> Fabian Arrotin, and myself. We will be working

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:50 AM Eddie O'Connor wrote: > One question: If Red hat has been "purchased" by IBMwhat happens > to the GPL license? Nothing > ..after all IBM is a "proprietary" company. What will happen to the > licensing of CEntOS?Fedora? Nothing > ...truly troubling tim

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 12:58:47AM -0400, Eddie O'Connor wrote: > One question: If Red hat has been "purchased" by IBMwhat happens to the > GPL license?..after all IBM is a "proprietary" company. What will happen to > the licensing of CEntOS?Fedora?...truly troubling times. I might have > t

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 12:31:21AM +0100, Tom H wrote: > Project, allowing these people to work on the Project as their primary > job function. This includes Johnny Hughes Jr, Jim Perrin, Fabian > Arrotin, and myself. We will be working with and operating out of the > Red Hat Open Source and Standa

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

One question: If Red hat has been "purchased" by IBMwhat happens to the GPL license?..after all IBM is a "proprietary" company. What will happen to the licensing of CEntOS?Fedora?...truly troubling times. I might have to go down the Yellow Brick Road and take up Debian as my regular OS. 😢

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 11:04:42 -0400 Raman Gupta wrote: > On 29/10/18 02:56 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > "Capitalism" is an insult term made up by Marxists to describe the > > Free Market, which is "the free and open exchange of goods and > > services between consenting parties".  Under th

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:30 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > On 10/31/18 1:32 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: >> >> as far as I can see Centos is owned by Red Hat and so by IBM if the >> offer goes through, Guthub is owned by Microsoft. Increasing >> concentration of services and so control is routine, just not

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:48 PM Dave Stevens wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:34:56 +0100 Tom H wrote: >> >> (in git form these days) > > another monopolist service, yes? ?! RH has chosen git in the same way that it's chosen rpm/yum. ___ users mailing

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/31/18 1:32 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 16:20:45 -0400 > Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> Dave Stevens wrote: >>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:34:56 +0100 >>> Tom H wrote: >>> (in git form these days) >>> >>> another monopolist service, yes? >>> not reassuring >> >> No. T

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 16:20:45 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > Dave Stevens wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:34:56 +0100 > > Tom H wrote: > > > >> (in git form these days) > > > > another monopolist service, yes? > > not reassuring > > No. The sources are at https://git.centos.org/. Ther

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Dave Stevens wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:34:56 +0100 > Tom H wrote: > >> (in git form these days) > > another monopolist service, yes? > not reassuring No. The sources are at https://git.centos.org/. There's nothing there you can't access via free software. Perhaps you're conflating Gith

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:34:56 +0100 Tom H wrote: > (in git form these days) another monopolist service, yes? not reassuring d -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms o

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 29/10/18 02:56 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > "Capitalism" is an insult term made up by Marxists to describe the > Free Market, which is "the free and open exchange of goods and > services between consenting parties".  Under the Free Market, to meet > your > own needs, you must meet the the

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 05:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > >> The big question is how will IBM look at it. RHEL is pretty much > >> unusable for newer software as RHEL is so

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:30 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 23:45 +, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> And remember, under that cute, glitzy desktop, OSX is simply BSD >> Unix. (S! Don't tell anyone! It's a secret!) > > Sure, but the complete MacOS is not "simply" BSD. It's

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 9:56 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > It is beyond me how Red Hat manages to so bugger up Fedora > when they convert it to RHEL. it's a big leap to go from "I don't like the choices that RH makes regarding updates of RHEL vX packages to "bugger up Fedora!" > If I wer

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 14:52 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 12:47 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > Now we're really getting OT. I lived in Venezuela for over 30 years and > > think I know more about the situation there than pretty much anyone > > else on this list. I do NO

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 23:45 +, Rick Stevens wrote: > And remember, > under that cute, glitzy desktop, OSX is simply BSD Unix. (S! Don't > tell anyone! It's a secret!) Sure, but the complete MacOS is not "simply" BSD. It's a BSD (actually XNU)-based kernel with an enormous amount of additio

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Huh? They're just configuration-restricted PC-style laptops. There's > nothing magical about the hardware anymore. There's no "IWM" chip in > them. They're just laptops, which is why Linux will run on them. Ahh they're able to run Linux mai

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/2018 07:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 10/30/18 4:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/30/18 4:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What I find different supporting Linux and OSx (weird for the sake of weirdness) over Windows is that with Linux and OSx I am helping set up things

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: but Apple hardware takes the cake. Huh? They're just configuration-restricted PC-style laptops. I wasn't referring to the internals. I was referring to their weird mice and keyboards. I hate their keyboards. I am a buckling spring guy. (I have kno

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/30/18 4:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> What I find different supporting Linux and OSx (weird for >> the sake of weirdness) over Windows is that with Linux and OSx >> I am helping set up things and assisting with program usage. >

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What I find different supporting Linux and OSx (weird for the sake of weirdness) over Windows is that with Linux and OSx I am helping set up things and assisting with program usage. Tip on OSx, carry your own mouse and a Live Fedora Stick. Pre

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:47 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:37:39 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Windows 10 causes my customers all kinds of trouble. But they can do nothing about it. why not run linux as a subsystem where it fits? They'd have quite a lot of knowledge already about

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:37:39 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Windows 10 causes my customers all kinds of trouble. But > they can do nothing about it. why not run linux as a subsystem where it fits? They'd have quite a lot of knowledge already about office(s) and browsers, those skills sho

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:15 PM, jdow wrote: Not superior in many cases in the most important criterion of all. Does it run the software you need to use? There are times the answer to that question is a simple "no and likely won't for quite some time to come." If you are a serious user then you pick the OS t

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 20181030 14:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/30/18 2:12 PM, bruce wrote: I am staying away from politics on the forum.  Sufice it to say, dems do like their cheese. and if you think "fedora" is better than the os that msoft creates.. really???  guess it depends on what you consider

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 2:12 PM, bruce wrote: I am staying away from politics on the forum. Sufice it to say, dems do like their cheese. and if you think "fedora" is better than the os that msoft creates.. really??? guess it depends on what you consider "better"... I am IT support to small businesse

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 1:37 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:33 PM Rick Stevens > wrote: > > > Do big IBM (or any) mainframes still exist? > > > You can still buy S/390's, but the big money is not in mainframes, but > in supercomputers. It used to b

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

sooo... all left leaning dems... all we want is to have the gubment do everything.. while we just suck off dat gov cheeze?? good lord dude.. what/where did you sprout from??? and if you think "fedora" is better than the os that msoft creates.. really??? guess it depends on what you consider

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 12:47 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Now we're really getting OT. I lived in Venezuela for over 30 years and > think I know more about the situation there than pretty much anyone > else on this list. I do NOT want to discuss it here. > > I suggest this thread stay on topic

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:33 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > > Do big IBM (or any) mainframes still exist? > You can still buy S/390's, but the big money is not in mainframes, but in supercomputers. It used to be (in the days of Seymour Cray) that a supercomputer just had a really fast processor that c

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Please move the politics to some other forum. kevin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/2018 12:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:19:44 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: ToddAndMargo: Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what might be coming in RHEL/Centos Paul yes but not as good as a written roadmap d agreed __

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 12:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:19:44 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: ToddAndMargo: Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what might be coming in RHEL/Centos Paul yes but not as good as a written roadmap d It is beyond me how R

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:19:44 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: > ToddAndMargo: > > Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what > might be coming in RHEL/Centos > > Paul yes but not as good as a written roadmap d -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killi

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 10:14 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Guys, this is NOT a political forum. Please stop trying to compare capitalism and communism and socialism here. It's not appropriate subject matter for this list. Take it to a political forum somewhere else. Rick is correct. If anyone wishes to elabora

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:34 AM, Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:57:19AM +, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: Hi Fred and all, Well, I understand although disagree. If one doesn't want upgrades, there are other systems like Debian stable. Besides upgrades aren't mandatory, as Tod

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 10:10 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 10/29/18 11:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 2:40 AM, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: Hi ToddandMargo, I don't want to get into a political argument, just point out to a couple of things: First:  Venezuela is not socialist.  Their government claimed to be, but they weren't, they aren't and they won't be. They are trying to be a

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 11:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/29/18 10:30 PM, Tim via users wrote: >> We have a prime example in this country of Telstra (a phone company). >> They bugger everyone up, customers and systems, with the you'll have to >> put up with it, or go to one of the small number of

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 11:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >> >> On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:57:19AM +, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: >Hi Fred and all, >Well, I understand although disagree. If one doesn't want upgrades, >there are other systems like Debian stable. Besides upgrades aren't >mandatory, as ToddandMargo said, if you don't want them

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Hi Fred and all, Well, I understand although disagree. If one doesn't want upgrades, there are other systems like Debian stable. Besides upgrades aren't mandatory, as ToddandMargo said, if you don't want them simply turn them off. Last but not least, why do you need to reinstall? Upgrading fro

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Hi ToddandMargo, I don't want to get into a political argument, just point out to a couple of things: First: Venezuela is not socialist. Their government claimed to be, but they weren't, they aren't and they won't be. If you want to point to a communist government, there is North Korea (that no

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 1:36 AM, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: Heartbroken? No improvement ever without change, (although not every change lead to improvement.) Sometimes purchases/buy-outs works out fine. Like the purchase of StarOffice by SUN-Microsystems. I admit, the world of Open Source does has vi

RE: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

but even by technicians vs community. No, I did not mention the replacement of init.d by bloatware… Hans From: Eddie O'Connor [mailto:eoconno...@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 29 oktober 2018 16:12 To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat I feel as though I&#x

WAY OFF TOPIC ( Was: OT: IBM to buy RedHat)

Everybody know now, that IBM is about buy RedHat. So, let's see what happens. Just leave this cap vs sos discussion to political forums, right? Jarmo ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@list

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 10:30 PM, Tim via users wrote: We have a prime example in this country of Telstra (a phone company). They bugger everyone up, customers and systems, with the you'll have to put up with it, or go to one of the small number of highly similar competitors. So, no, market forces don't kee

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: Some of us (many businesses) don't want a new version of Linux every six months, they want systems that will be stable and will run for years with nothing more than the occasional yum update and more occasional reboot. People with many computers can't spend

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

ddAndMargo via users Komu: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Datum: 29. 10. 2018 20:01:27 Předmět: Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat "On 10/29/18 4:17 AM, j.halif...@seznam.cz wrote: > Capitalism is not a good system because of a sum of locally optimal > behaviors > doesn't need to resu

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 22:20 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > One of Fedora's business values is the free testing users perform  > for RH. This value has eroded over time.  More testing is being > automated and is often incorported into build systems.  These tests > often originated with end use

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Tim: >> And you can say it about anything.  e.g. The commercial phone >> companies don't exist for people to be able to communicate (what >> their customers consider their primary purpose to be).  They're >> there to make money and it really doesn't care how well the >> communications aspect of it

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddA

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The big question is how will IBM look at it. RHEL is pretty much unusable for newer software as RHEL is so bug riddled and out of date. Don't know why you think RHEL is bug riddl

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: I feel as though I've been k

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users > > wrote: > > > >>On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: > >>>I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 20:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this > list: > > > https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html > O Fedora users have to be concerned with changes at RH that

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Could this be why IBM is looking at RHEL: Who was around 1980 and followed what happened to the IBM PC when M$ was supposed to be writing PCDOS and then OS/2 all with IBM's money. Now that M$ is starting to look at Linux, IBM is afraid that M$ will own every server and desktop that isn't runn

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 2:33 PM, Tom H wrote: As incompetent as IBM's management has been for the last 15 years or so (and we can safely add paying a 63% premium for RH as its latest epic fail; desperation...), I find it difficult to believe that IBM'll kill the successful RH business model. They sure ruin

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

yep i hope so, fingerscrossed ;) On 10/29/18 11:26 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Maybe IBM will come up with its own version of an enterprise distribution and keep using Fedora for its testing ground as well. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 12:32 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Fedora is the "bleeding edge" Not all that "Bleeding Edge" Fedora 28 does not even support the latest Libre Office in is repos. (LO's RPM do work though.) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations, merge

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 7:59 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > Spun off by who? "By whom" please :) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfe

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:32:37 + Rick Stevens wrote: > On 10/29/18 11:52 AM, Walter H. wrote: > > On 28.10.2018 23:49, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this > >> list: > >> > >> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

does IBM want RedHat because it is competition for Unix? On 30/10/18 5:52 am, Walter H. wrote: On 28.10.2018 23:49, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this list: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-a

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:55 AM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > RHEL is defunct, out-of-date garbage. Garbage? I wonder how many S&P 500 use RHEL and how many use Fedora :) And if you look at all companies, how many use CentOS and how may use Fedora? ___

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:48 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > I'd rather think the "suits" know > about everything that's RedHat-ish. I was involved when British Telecom was doing their due diligence of a US based company which had offices worldwide.  They sent a team of about 20 people to each office to go over e

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:27 AM Dave Stevens wrote: > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:20:05 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 10/28/2018 04:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> >>> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to >>> this list: >>> >>> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-a

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On October 29, 2018 8:48:29 PM UTC, Rick Stevens wrote: >On 10/29/18 12:56 PM, Richard England wrote: >> On 10/29/18 10:47 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote: >>> On October 28, 2018 10:49:46 PM UTC, Patrick O'Callaghan >>> wrote: >>> >>> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest >

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 12:56 PM, Richard England wrote: > On 10/29/18 10:47 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote: >> On October 28, 2018 10:49:46 PM UTC, Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >> >> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this >> list: >> >> >> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:53:16PM -0700, stan wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:32:37 + Rick Stevens wrote: Fedora is the "bleeding edge" development arm of RHEL. Eventually, once enough changes have been made and stabilized in Fedora, it becomes the next release of RHEL. We Fedora users are

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:23 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > > Do big IBM (or any) mainframes still exist? > > Here are the requirements for running RedHat on s/390 mainframes, so, yes to both: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_network_satellite/5.4/html/installation_guide/sect-inst

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 10:47 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote: On October 28, 2018 10:49:46 PM UTC, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this list: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html p

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:32:37 + Rick Stevens wrote: > Fedora is the "bleeding edge" development arm of RHEL. Eventually, > once enough changes have been made and stabilized in Fedora, it > becomes the next release of RHEL. We Fedora users are just the lab > rats and a giant, very vocal and fai

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 11:52 AM, Walter H. wrote: > On 28.10.2018 23:49, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this >> list: >> >> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html >> >> >> poc >> > I guess this

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

I just hope that Fedora does not become one of those garage distributions. On 10/29/18 6:41 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by B

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 28.10.2018 23:49, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this list: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html poc I guess this won't affect anything on the development of Fedora, RHEL, Cen

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 10:00 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/29/18 4:17 AM, j.halif...@seznam.cz wrote: > > Capitalism is not a good system because of a sum of locally optimal > > behaviors > > doesn't need to result in an optimum. Behavior of companies oriented for > > their > > maxi

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: > > I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce > > Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations, > > mergers, and long term financials,..

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 10:02 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Wonderfully stated.  The announcement took my breath away.  I hope Fedora gets spun off. Spun off by who? Do you have any idea how much support RedHat provides to Fedora? ___ users mailing list --

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On October 29, 2018 5:16:33 PM UTC, Dave Stevens wrote: >On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 >ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> I hope >> Fedora gets spun off. > > >forked? >___ >users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org >To unsubscribe send a

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On October 28, 2018 10:49:46 PM UTC, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this >list: > >https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html > >poc >___ >user

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I hope > Fedora gets spun off. forked? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations, mergers, and long term financials, And while Red Hat was a corporation per se.I've always loved Fedora for b

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 4:17 AM, j.halif...@seznam.cz wrote: Capitalism is not a good system because of a sum of locally optimal behaviors doesn't need to result in an optimum. Behavior of companies oriented for their maximal profit causes negative devastating nature, social tensions, devastating democrac

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations, mergers, and long term financials, And while Red Hat was a corporation per se.I've always loved Fedora for being different, for being the odd distro that w

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:56:45PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/28/18 10:18 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 22:01 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: The reality is, Red Hat is a publicly traded company and there was always a very good chance a big fish was going to come eat

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat Comment on IBM Side

Can put a personnel opinion on IBM side of this. My College became a part of the IBM academic initiative program 5+ years ago. They provided the service we used free of charge. My College has a 12 year old mini system that had 256M of Ram and 24G of disk with a single CPU and was two major versi

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

P. Olsen Komu: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Datum: 29. 10. 2018 11:45:23 Předmět: Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat "On 2018-10-28 at 23:56:45 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/28/18 10:18 PM, Tim via users wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 22:01 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >>

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 2018-10-28 at 23:56:45 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/28/18 10:18 PM, Tim via users wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 22:01 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> The reality is, Red Hat is a publicly traded company and there was > >> always a very good chance a big fish was going to come eat

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/28/18 10:18 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 22:01 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: The reality is, Red Hat is a publicly traded company and there was always a very good chance a big fish was going to come eat it, because it was doing well. Anyway, the ultimate decision now is up t

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 22:01 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > The reality is, Red Hat is a publicly traded company and there was > always a very good chance a big fish was going to come eat it, > because it was doing well. Anyway, the ultimate decision now is up to > Red Hat shareholders. Why would they

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/28/2018 11:30 PM, Leander Hutton wrote: On 10/28/18 10:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: When it finally breaks, look up Unicomp. They have excellent buckling spring keyboards. (I am typing on one right now.) Yup, know all about Unicomp. I restore Model Ms as a hobby and have one of

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Tim via users wrote: > On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 19:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> RHEL is defunct, out-of-date garbage, so I see IBM slowly >> closing that project down as it wont support their new code >> and sticking with cloud services and such. I do n

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/28/18 11:04 PM, Tim via users wrote: > On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 19:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> RHEL is defunct, out-of-date garbage, so I see IBM slowly >> closing that project down as it wont support their new code >> and sticking with cloud services and such.  I do not see >> th

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/28/18 10:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > When it finally breaks, look up Unicomp.  They have excellent buckling > spring keyboards. (I am typing on one right now.) Yup, know all about Unicomp. I restore Model Ms as a hobby and have one of Unicomp's black/white/gray UltraClassic USB m

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 19:04 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > RHEL is defunct, out-of-date garbage, so I see IBM slowly > closing that project down as it wont support their new code > and sticking with cloud services and such.  I do not see > them support anything that does not directly affect

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