Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-15 Thread JD
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote: > > So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD. > > What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND > > back up the DVD??? > > Acquired a DVD for testing. Verified, didn't explore, that there is a > problem with > k

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote: > So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD. > What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND > back up the DVD??? Acquired a DVD for testing.  Verified, didn't explore, that there is a problem with k3b reading the DVD even with libdvdcss-1.4.2-1.fc28 installed. Ho

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 12Sep2018 19:03, JD wrote: On 09/12/2018 06:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote: So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD. What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND back up the DVD??? Well, k3b has, under tools, "Rip Video DVD". I recall using it in the past, but c

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 9/13/18 9:16 AM, JD wrote: > > > On 09/12/2018 07:03 PM, JD wrote: >> >> On 09/12/2018 06:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote: So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD. What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND back up the DVD??? >>> Well, k3b has, unde

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD
On 09/12/2018 07:03 PM, JD wrote: On 09/12/2018 06:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote: So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD. What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND back up the DVD??? Well, k3b has, under tools, "Rip Video DVD". I recall using it in the past,

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD
On 09/12/2018 06:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote: So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD. What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND back up the DVD??? Well, k3b has, under tools, "Rip Video DVD". I recall using it in the past, but can't find a DVD in my home to t

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote: > So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD. > What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND > back up the DVD??? Well, k3b has, under tools, "Rip Video DVD". I recall using it in the past, but can't find a DVD in my home to test. -- Cardinal Rule of Presentation

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 12Sep2018 17:40, JD wrote: On 09/12/2018 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson wrote: Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that reading a CSS DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decoding produced read issues, not just garbled

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD
On 09/12/2018 05:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 9/13/18 7:40 AM, JD wrote: On 09/12/2018 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson wrote: Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that reading a CSS DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decodi

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 9/13/18 7:40 AM, JD wrote: > > > On 09/12/2018 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson wrote: >>> Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that reading a >>> CSS >>> DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decoding produced read issues, >>

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD
On 09/12/2018 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson wrote: Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that reading a CSS DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decoding produced read issues, not just garbled data. This might be that. Ah,

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson wrote: Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that reading a CSS DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decoding produced read issues, not just garbled data. This might be that. Ah, here we go. In the tar-1.30 source, src/create.c,

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 11Sep2018 10:24, JD wrote: On 09/11/2018 04:14 AM, Dave Mitchell wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:19:44AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Are you using only "dd" or are you also using "tar"? I only ask since I've not seen the message coming from "dd" but recall seeing it from "tar". To expand

Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD
On 09/11/2018 05:55 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 12Sep2018 07:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote: I have not been able to use k3b because it did not make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error. Are you saying that it has been fixed It isn't clear to me if

Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD
On 09/11/2018 05:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote: I have not been able to use k3b because it did not make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error. Are you saying that it has been fixed It isn't clear to me if your initial problem was related to reading o

Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 09/11/2018 08:58 AM, JD wrote: Hi Todd and Margo, I have not been able to use k3b because it did not make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error. Are you saying that it has been fixed I never knew it was broken. Use it all the time __

Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 9/12/18 7:55 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 12Sep2018 07:13, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote: >>> I have not been able to use k3b because it did not >>> make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error. >>> >>> Are you saying that it has been fixed >> >> It isn't

Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 12Sep2018 07:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote: I have not been able to use k3b because it did not make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error. Are you saying that it has been fixed It isn't clear to me if your initial problem was related to reading or wr

Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote: > I have not been able to use k3b because it did not > make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error. > > Are you saying that it has been fixed It isn't clear to me if your initial problem was related to reading or writing a DVD. That said, in another

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread JD
On 09/11/2018 04:14 AM, Dave Mitchell wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:19:44AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Are you using only "dd" or are you also using "tar"? I only ask since I've not seen the message coming from "dd" but recall seeing it from "tar". To expand on that: $ strings `whi

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread JD
On 09/11/2018 04:04 AM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 18-09-10 22:27:00, ToddAndMargo wrote: ... "dd" does not work on DVD's. Use K3b instead: dd is fine for /reading/ DVDs. Something more (K3b or wodim or growisofs) is needed to /write/ them. Yes. Wodim works just fine. ___

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread JD
On 09/10/2018 08:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 9/11/18 8:53 AM, JD wrote: Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting frequent messages like . File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up I do not know yet

[OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread JD
Hi Todd and Margo, I have not been able to use k3b because it did not make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error. Are you saying that it has been fixed Thanx!! JD On 09/10/2018 08:27 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: On 09/10/2018 05:53 PM, JD wrote: Using dd to back up a DVD (for in

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread fred roller
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:41 AM fred roller wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 4:31 AM ToddAndMargo > wrote: > >> On 09/11/2018 03:04 AM, Tony Nelson wrote: >> > On 18-09-10 22:27:00, ToddAndMargo wrote: >> > ... >> >> "dd" does not work on DVD's. Use K3b instead: >> > >> > dd is fine for /

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread fred roller
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 4:31 AM ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 09/11/2018 03:04 AM, Tony Nelson wrote: > > On 18-09-10 22:27:00, ToddAndMargo wrote: > > ... > >> "dd" does not work on DVD's. Use K3b instead: > > > > dd is fine for /reading/ DVDs. Something more (K3b or wodim or > > growisofs) is ne

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 09/11/2018 03:04 AM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 18-09-10 22:27:00, ToddAndMargo wrote:  ... "dd" does not work on DVD's.  Use K3b instead: dd is fine for /reading/ DVDs.  Something more (K3b or wodim or growisofs) is needed to /write/ them. dd is great to make an iso out of a dvd. _

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread Dave Mitchell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:19:44AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Are you using only "dd" or are you also using "tar"?  I only ask since I've > not seen > the message coming from "dd" but recall seeing it from "tar". To expand on that: $ strings `which dd` | grep shrank $ strings `which ta

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread Tony Nelson
On 18-09-10 22:27:00, ToddAndMargo wrote: ... "dd" does not work on DVD's. Use K3b instead: dd is fine for /reading/ DVDs. Something more (K3b or wodim or growisofs) is needed to /write/ them. -- TonyN.:'

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 9/11/18 8:53 AM, JD wrote: > Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting > frequent messages like > . File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros > > So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up > I do not know yet, because the process is still in pr

Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-10 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 09/10/2018 05:53 PM, JD wrote: Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting frequent messages like . File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up I do not know yet, because the process is still in progres

OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-10 Thread JD
Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting frequent messages like . File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up I do not know yet, because the process is still in progress. In the past, I never had this i