Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/13/2014 06:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/13/2014 08:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Sometimes, thunderbird becomes non-reactive for minutes longer periods (several minutes), but is back afterwards. Next time that happens, run top to see if it's working its little ass off or just taking a nap

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-13 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/13/2014 08:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Sometimes, thunderbird becomes non-reactive for minutes longer periods (several minutes), but is back afterwards. Next time that happens, run top to see if it's working its little ass off or just taking a nap. -- users mailing list users@lists.fed

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/13/2014 01:54 AM, Rolf Turner wrote: On 13/07/14 03:37, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2014-07-12 at 12:46 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your system operators restoring a backup to their drives. Some SysOps do a really

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread poma
On 07/13/2014 02:36 AM, Rolf Turner wrote: On 13/07/14 09:11, poma wrote: Always try to contact the admins if there are problems. It is always good practice. I have in the past not found the U. of Auckland IT people to be very helpful. They don't like the fact that I am using my own laptop

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/13/14 08:32, Rolf Turner wrote: > > >> Now, you probably will run into a bit of difficulty or >> inconvenience.You have 2 copies of t-bird installed. One is well integrated >> with >> Fedora. The other not. So, if you were to click on a mailto: link in a >> web page, the older version of T-B

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 13/07/14 09:11, poma wrote: Always try to contact the admins if there are problems. It is always good practice. I have in the past not found the U. of Auckland IT people to be very helpful. They don't like the fact that I am using my own laptop on which I have superuser privileges and am

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 13/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/13/14 07:35, Rolf Turner wrote: Yes, I had to muck around a bit to get Adobe Reader installed; yum didn't "directly" work (probably because my Fedora 17 is EOL). According to notes that I kept, the recipe (found somewhere on the web) that I used was:

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 13/07/14 03:37, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2014-07-12 at 12:46 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your system operators restoring a backup to their drives. Some SysOps do a really half-arsed job at restore and backup, mangli

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/14 21:18, Rolf Turner wrote: > Nearly there I think. I downloaded the second tarball (I *do* prefer British > English) and unpacked it; I cd-ed to the resulting thunderbird directory and > executed ./thunderbird. The program started OK --- I am now using it (i.e. I > am using thunderb

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 15:28, Rolf Turner wrote: On 12/07/14 17:41, poma wrote: On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: ... ***Is*** there anything that can be done about it? If so, what? Please keep it simple and explicit, if you would be so kind. I need a *recipe* --- "Do this, and then this, and t

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-07-12 at 12:46 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your > > system operators restoring a backup to their drives. Some SysOps do > a > > really half-arsed job at restore and backup, mangling things > terribly. > > Though I a

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 17:41, poma wrote: On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: ... ***Is*** there anything that can be done about it? If so, what? Please keep it simple and explicit, if you would be so kind. I need a *recipe* --- "Do this, and then this, and then this " I understand a fair bit o

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 17:32, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/12/14 12:51, Rolf Turner wrote: XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib64/thunderbird/libxul.so: libdbus-glib-1.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 Couldn't load XPCOM. Naturally I have no idea what this really means, or what if anything can be done abo

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/12/2014 08:34 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 12 July 2014, Rolf Turner sent: (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders and subfolders. You might want to try and find out if those times

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On Jul 12, 2014 3:57 PM, "Heinz Diehl" wrote: > > On 12.07.2014, Rolf Turner wrote: > > > (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird > > spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders and > > subfolders. > [] > > This is surely not an answer you

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-12 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 12.07.2014, Rolf Turner wrote: > (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird > spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders and > subfolders. [] This is surely not an answer you would expect, but: Thunderbird is badly suited to handle big a

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 12 July 2014, Rolf Turner sent: > (1) From time to time, for no reason that I can discern, Thunderbird > spontaneously unsubscribes all (or perhaps most of) my email folders > and subfolders. You might want to try and find out if those times coincide with your system opera

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: ... ***Is*** there anything that can be done about it? If so, what? Please keep it simple and explicit, if you would be so kind. I need a *recipe* --- "Do this, and then this, and then this " I understand a fair bit of Linux jargon, but there is a *

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/14 12:51, Rolf Turner wrote: > >> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib64/thunderbird/libxul.so: >> libdbus-glib-1.so.2: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 >> Couldn't load XPCOM. > > Naturally I have no idea what this really means, or what if anything can be > done about it. > > ***Is*** there

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 06:51, Rolf Turner wrote: On 12/07/14 14:44, Ed Greshko wrote: P. S. I am running Thunderbird 17.0.7, if that is of any relevance. It should not matterbut that is a very old version. So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that Iam running a very el

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 14:44, Ed Greshko wrote: P. S. I am running Thunderbird 17.0.7, if that is of any relevance. It should not matterbut that is a very old version. So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that Iam running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be explic

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Doug
On 07/11/2014 11:12 PM, poma wrote: On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote: So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that I am running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be explicit). I don't dare try to upgrade my Fedora version, given what I have read on this list

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote: So how might I upgrade to the latest version? I must confess that I am running a very elderly version of Fedora (17, to be explicit). I don't dare try to upgrade my Fedora version, given what I have read on this list about the problems that are involved

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/14 08:27, Rolf Turner wrote: > On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> Are you talking about imap folders? If so, the subscription information is >> kept on the server side. So, for example, when I use T-Bird on a Virtual >> Machine and define my existing email account all my subscr

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread poma
On 12.07.2014 02:27, Rolf Turner wrote: On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* kno

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 12:20, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Has anyone any insight into why this unsubscription phenomenon should occur and how one might prevent it from occurring? That's a good question. Have you tried asking here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/product

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 12:14, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, bu

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: Has anyone any insight into why this unsubscription phenomenon should occur and how one might prevent it from occurring? That's a good question. Have you tried asking here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/thunderbird -- users mailing lis

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
On 12/07/14 12:04, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner issued this missive: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive,

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/14 07:54, Rolf Turner wrote: > > This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and > without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many > contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, but above > all *knowledgeable*) I

Re: OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/11/2014 04:54 PM, Rolf Turner issued this missive: This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, but above all *knowledg

OT: Thunderbird spontaneously unsubscribing folders.

2014-07-11 Thread Rolf Turner
This is of course not a Fedora issue as such, but I have tried hard and without success to find answers elsewhere. And since this list has so many contributors who are *so* knowledgeable (abrasive, cranky, cryptic, but above all *knowledgeable*) I thought I would ask here. The question is a