Upgraded - Re: More memory

2022-01-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/14/22 08:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: First, I have ordered 16Gb of memory for my x140e.  One of the Lenovo forum experts has run this way in the past with no noticeable problems, though he no longer uses the 140.  The mem cards should come next week.  I will first test them out in my ole F

Re: More memory

2022-01-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
lot of this evil spawning.  You don't load all the Ad badness that leads to more performance badness. Hopefully the memory boost will calm things down.  Or at least until Fedora36 eating up more memory. Perhaps a octa-core?  My x140e is a quad-core and it was a major improvement on the duo-c

Re: More memory

2022-01-14 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/14/22 03:02, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/13/22 16:00, Tim via users wrote: My experience with Firefox's restore last session feature was only with multiple tabs, not multiple windows.  I know I can't manually kill multiple windows and than restart and get them all back, I only get back the la

Re: More memory

2022-01-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 1/13/22 16:00, Tim via users wrote: My experience with Firefox's restore last session feature was only with multiple tabs, not multiple windows. I know I can't manually kill multiple windows and than restart and get them all back, I only get back the last closed window. I've discovered that

Re: More memory

2022-01-13 Thread Roger Heflin
earlyoom has a block on killing the main firefox process, it only kills one of the 8 tab managers. Basically firefox and all tabs stay intact and firefox tells you some of the tabs have crashed and when you go back into that tab it loads right back up. And when you kill (x) the window that tells

Re: More memory

2022-01-13 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-01-13 at 08:45 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So those background tabs tend to have things running along, and I do > have to figure out this earlyoom to see if it might help here. Oh, for what it's worth, you might find earlyoom to bring its own set of annoyances. If it detects yo

Re: More memory

2022-01-13 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-01-13 at 08:45 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Yes, I am running 24/7 for a week. Every Friday afternoon, I > suspend. Mostly it does suspend, sometimes it hangs, and I have > submitted a bug report on this. In that scenario, I wouldn't expect Firefox to behave any differently than

Re: More memory

2022-01-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/13/22 00:35, Tim via users wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan You might consider the Tab Session Manager extension. It periodically (or on demand) saves your current tabs and windows and can restore them again on startup, but optionally not actually load each page until you decide to visit it. A

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Tim via users
Patrick O'Callaghan >> You might consider the Tab Session Manager extension. It >> periodically (or on demand) saves your current tabs and windows and >> can restore them again on startup, but optionally not actually load >> each page until you decide to visit it. Andras Simon: > I believe that th

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Andras Simon
2022-01-12 13:21 UTC+01:00, Patrick O'Callaghan : > On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 12:46 +0100, Andras Simon wrote: >> 2022-01-12 12:09 UTC+01:00, Patrick O'Callaghan >> : >> >> > You might consider the Tab Session Manager extension. It >> > periodically >> > (or on demand) saves your current tabs and windo

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 08:40 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 1/12/22 06:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 20:25 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > > > On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 16:58 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > what is 'earlyoom'? > > > OOM is an out-of-memory cond

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/12/22 06:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 20:25 +1030, Tim via users wrote: On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 16:58 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: what is 'earlyoom'? OOM is an out-of-memory condition, earlyoom is something that's supposed to jump in and manage the memory use (s

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 12:46 +0100, Andras Simon wrote: > 2022-01-12 12:09 UTC+01:00, Patrick O'Callaghan > : > > > You might consider the Tab Session Manager extension. It > > periodically > > (or on demand) saves your current tabs and windows and can restore > > them > > again on startup, but opt

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Andras Simon
2022-01-12 12:09 UTC+01:00, Patrick O'Callaghan : > You might consider the Tab Session Manager extension. It periodically > (or on demand) saves your current tabs and windows and can restore them > again on startup, but optionally not actually load each page until you > decide to visit it. I beli

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 20:25 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 16:58 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > what is 'earlyoom'? > > OOM is an out-of-memory condition, earlyoom is something that's > supposed to jump in and manage the memory use (somehow) before you > run > out of free

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 14:58 -0700, linux guy wrote: > I have 75 Windows with 550 tabs. Across 5 desktops and 4 > activities. My machine has 64GB of RAM. It is always responsive. Okay, we're all coming around to your place to use your computer, then. ;-) -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.4

Re: More memory

2022-01-12 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 16:58 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > what is 'earlyoom'? OOM is an out-of-memory condition, earlyoom is something that's supposed to jump in and manage the memory use (somehow) before you run out of free memory. I'm not surprised at Firefox being a problem. It's a behemot

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/01/2022 01:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: The specs for my Lenovo x140e is 8GB, which I have and it seems to be not  enough. $ free    total    used    free  shared buff/cache   available Mem: 7380668 6930852  2626761492 187140  221144 Swap:

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/11/22 17:00, linux guy wrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:56 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: In a couple days, I will see the swap usage grow.  Until I Quit firefox, then restart with all the old windows opening. But I really never exit Firefox unless forced to. TabSessio

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Roger Heflin
187140 > > >> 221144 > > >> Swap: 241571761204409612113080 > > >> > > >> > > >> Firefox seems to be a bit part of the problem. I quit it and see: > > >> > > >> $ free > > >>

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Roger Heflin
> >>totalusedfree shared buff/cache > >> available > >> Mem: 7380668 5146100 17768401364 457728 > >> 1948864 > >> Swap: 24157176 527095618886220 > >> > >> I am runni

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread linux guy
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:56 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > In a couple days, I will see the swap usage grow. Until I Quit firefox, > then restart with all the old windows opening. > > But I really never exit Firefox unless forced to. > TabSessionManager is your friend. Look for it in AddOns. W

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
hared buff/cache available Mem: 7380668 3751784 1148396 16228 2480488 3272716 Swap: 24157176 242295621734220 but really the bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at hand. Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots of memory and swapping

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread linux guy
I have 75 Windows with 550 tabs. Across 5 desktops and 4 activities. My machine has 64GB of RAM. It is always responsive. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedo

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread linux guy
57728 > > > 1948864 > > > Swap: 24157176 527095618886220 > > > > > > I am running a VM at 2Gb and a couple of Thunderbird sessions. Closing > > > these TB and waiting a while I drop down to > > > > > > $ free > > >

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at hand.  Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots of memory and swapping like crazy.  Probably bad for my SSD drive. So how to get to 16GB memory? What follows the x140e in the 12" format?  I can't figure this out

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread linux guy
o > > > > $ free > >totalusedfree shared buff/cache > > available > > Mem: 7380668 3751784 1148396 16228 2480488 > > 3272716 > > Swap: 24157176 242295621734220 > > > > > >

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Roger Heflin
of Thunderbird sessions. Closing > > these TB and waiting a while I drop down to > > > > $ free > >totalusedfree shared buff/cache > > available > > Mem: 7380668 3751784 1148396 16228 2480488 > > 3272716 &g

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread John Mellor
    free  shared buff/cache   available Mem: 7380668 3751784 1148396   16228 2480488 3272716 Swap:   24157176 2422956    21734220 but really the bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at hand.  Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots

Re: More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Looks like more memory is "well" supported: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X140e-Review-and-Upgrade-Information-WLAN-WWAN-Memory-HDD/m-p/1931897 So 16GB for ~$90.  Going to have to figure out the best good deal on 2x*GB memory. And look at 32GB options. But

More memory

2022-01-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
    21734220 but really the bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at hand.  Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots of memory and swapping like crazy.  Probably bad for my SSD drive. So how to get to 16GB memory? What follows the x140e in the 12" format?  I

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/6/19 3:29 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2019-08-05 at 14:53 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have to think if I want to facilitate hibernate when battery runs out, like on a long flight with no working AC. Or when I am just not paying attention to my power situation. I would have thou

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2019-08-06 at 19:59 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2019-08-05 at 14:53 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I have to think if I want to facilitate hibernate when battery runs > > out, like on a long flight with no working AC. Or when I am just not > > paying attention to my power sit

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-06 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2019-08-05 at 14:53 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have to think if I want to facilitate hibernate when battery runs > out, like on a long flight with no working AC. Or when I am just not > paying attention to my power situation. I would have thought the ideal way for it to operate is

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 8/5/19 1:49 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/5/19 3:07 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I was just looking at that basically all was running in real memory (with lots of buffer space) with no swap used, and forgot about suspend/hibernate. Only hibernate.  Suspend doesn't use the swap. I realized

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/5/19 3:07 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I was just looking at that basically all was running in real memory (with lots of buffer space) with no swap used, and forgot about suspend/hibernate. Only hibernate. Suspend doesn't use the swap. ___ users

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 8/4/19 10:48 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 16:57 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: Use GParted to shrink your swap and expand your normal space. You should probably not need more than 4 GiB swap. There is an advantage to having more swap than RAM: If you use a hibernate featur

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-04 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 16:57 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > Use GParted to shrink your swap and expand your normal space. You > should probably not need more than 4 GiB swap. There is an advantage to having more swap than RAM: If you use a hibernate feature that works by dumping RAM to swap, havin

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-04 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 08/04/2019 07:32 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 12:16 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: All last week I ran with 4GB real memory and a total of 8GB swap. I was using all the real memory and pretty much 4GB of swap with poor performance. I think I'd consider 4 gig of RAM a ba

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-04 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2019-08-04 at 12:16 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > All last week I ran with 4GB real memory and a total of 8GB swap. > > I was using all the real memory and pretty much 4GB of swap with > poor performance. I think I'd consider 4 gig of RAM a bare minimum, these days. As memory size has

Re: Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-04 Thread sixpack13
your is an ThinkPad X140e ? according to this https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/Unofficial-Max-RAM-Capacity-for-x120e/m-p/3717347/highlight/true#M77742 and https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/tp02_en/thread-id/37966/page/3 and https://imgur.com/a/

Final on enlarging swap - I really needed more memory

2019-08-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
:    7416056 3609248  860448  354948 2946360 3158088 Swap:   3419132   0 3419132 and performance is just fine.  So I was suffering with only 4GB of real memory.  Perhaps F30 needs more than F28 or 4 core is just having more things going and needs more memory