Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-17 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - > From: "Michael Schwendt" > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:01:27 PM > Subject: Re: More dnf annoyance > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:51:47 + (UTC), Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > > > >&

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:51:47 + (UTC), Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > >> "dnf --refresh" is more like "dnf clean expire-cache", which sometimes > >> gives additional updates to plain "dnf upgrade", but there still seems > >> some caching involved that keeps it from providing all updates availabl

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-16 Thread Andreas M. Kirchwitz
Michael Schwendt wrote: >> "dnf --refresh" is more like "dnf clean expire-cache", which sometimes >> gives additional updates to plain "dnf upgrade", but there still seems >> some caching involved that keeps it from providing all updates available. > > Doubtful. > > "dnf update --refresh" here (R

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:21:49 + (UTC), Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: > "dnf --refresh" is more like "dnf clean expire-cache", which sometimes > gives additional updates to plain "dnf upgrade", but there still seems > some caching involved that keeps it from providing all updates available. Doubt

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-15 Thread Andreas M. Kirchwitz
Heinz Diehl wrote: > F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new > packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" > shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Yes, you are correct. Several people have verified this behavior, they reported th

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 04:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 04:35:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 15:42 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 08/11/2015 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > > > >

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 15:41 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > So two update commands at different times give different results? > > If "two update commands issued directly after another" qualify as "at > different times", then yes. In fact, there was not

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 04:35:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. > > Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer > > look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. > Ok, I see. So what command s

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. > Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer > look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. Ok, I see. So what command should I use to keep my sy

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:41:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > So two update commands at different times give different results? > > If "two update commands issued directly after another" qualify as "at > different times", then yes. In fact, there was n

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new packets. Then

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > So two update commands at different times give different results? If "two update commands issued directly after another" qualify as "at different times", then yes. In fact, there was not more than max. one minute between the two. > > Dnf hasn't been w

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > > F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some > > > new > > > packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "d

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:50:02 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Last Sunday, I've had a case, where I resorted to > rm -rf /var/cache/dnf > because neither "dnf clean all" nor "dnf --refresh" seems to have worked. > > No matter what I did dnf seems have refetched the same outdated mirror > presentin

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*.

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 12:16 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:35:04 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Last Su

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new > packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" > shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So two update commands at different times give di

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:35:04 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: > F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new > packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" > shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. I don't think that's new with dnf. I've seen sim

More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
Hi, F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Dnf hasn't been working properly since F22, while I had not a single problem with yum ever. Still I have