Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-19 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 22:58:28 -0500 Fulko Hew wrote: > On a lark, today I saw that Discover was telling me there were > updates. I asked it to show me what. > After a number of minutes it told me... 7 packages. > OK, I did a 'dnf update' instead. > After 30 seconds it had fetched and installed all

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-18 Thread Fulko Hew
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 11:29 PM Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 1/17/22 6:31 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: >> What I don't remember is what this multi-stage install-reboot was trying >> to accomplish. >> Looking back in messages or journalctl, I don't see anything. >> But it was doing something explicitly. >> > If

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-18 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 12:31, stan via users wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:22:55 -0700 > stan wrote: > > > In boot, there should be a config file for that latest kernel. Run > > the command > > grep -i vfat config[latest kernel text] > > If there is no vfat, this will show it, but I think all

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-18 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:22:55 -0700 stan wrote: > In boot, there should be a config file for that latest kernel. Run > the command > grep -i vfat config[latest kernel text] > If there is no vfat, this will show it, but I think all fedora kernels > are built with drivers for vfat built in. > CO

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-18 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:20:17 -0500 Fulko Hew wrote: > After a lot of experimentation, I did get the previous kernel to boot > all the way to the GUI. (I don't know why that didn't work the first > time I tried it.) So I'm back to a working system. > My hardware is fine. > And that older kernel

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 1/17/22 6:31 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: What I don't remember is what this multi-stage install-reboot was trying to accomplish. Looking back in messages or journalctl, I don't see anything. But it was doing something explicitly. If you were installing something, try dnf history.

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-17 Thread Fulko Hew
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:06 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > On 1/17/22 11:59 AM, stan via users wrote: > > Suspicious that this is not deterministic. It should either fail > > identically every time or restart every time (in my opinion). > > If it's really nnondeterministic, it's what's called a mandelbug

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 1/17/22 11:59 AM, stan via users wrote: Suspicious that this is not deterministic. It should either fail identically every time or restart every time (in my opinion). If it's really nnondeterministic, it's what's called a mandelbug. ___ users mail

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-17 Thread Fulko Hew
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:00 PM stan via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 21:07:29 -0500 > Fulko Hew wrote: > > > I decided to log out and log back in to my X11 based KDE session just > > now, and I saw that 'Discover' was telling me I had updates available. > >

Re: Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-17 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 21:07:29 -0500 Fulko Hew wrote: > I decided to log out and log back in to my X11 based KDE session just > now, and I saw that 'Discover' was telling me I had updates available. > So I said 'go ahead'. > Eventually, it said I needed to reboot, so I did. > After 4 (or 5) reboots

Machine won't finish booting after update

2022-01-16 Thread Fulko Hew
I decided to log out and log back in to my X11 based KDE session just now, and I saw that 'Discover' was telling me I had updates available. So I said 'go ahead'. Eventually, it said I needed to reboot, so I did. After 4 (or 5) reboots that the machine drove itself through, the last reboot failed t