Re: Lost Mate-panel : SOLVED

2020-05-21 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 01 May 2020 20:16:29 +, I Beartooth wrote: > Upgrading an E-series Thinkpad, a year or two old, running Fedora 31, > via CLI, the upgrade kept failing with complaints about i.686 -- till I > did "dnf remove mate-*.i.686" -- then it completed, or seemed to. This > machine was behind an

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/6/20 9:59 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2020 13:01:12 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: All right, I now have it booted into F32 Live, with a Mate- terminal open. I've never use the Mate live boot. Did it have an install option when it started up? If not, check the menus for an

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/06/2020 10:59 AM, Beartooth wrote: I should mention that never on any new install have I managed to make /home separate; every interpretation I've ever put on any directions has led only to an impasse from which I had to start over. I don't know what I've always gotten wrong, nor ev

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-06 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 05 May 2020 13:01:12 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> All right, I now have it booted into F32 Live, with a Mate- >> terminal open. > > I've never use the Mate live boot. Did it have an install option when > it started up? If not, check the menus for an install option. It has

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/5/20 12:36 PM, Beartooth wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2020 11:46:18 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/5/20 11:43 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2020 10:37:24 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: It sounds like you started the the upgrade process but it failed part way through. I think doing a re-insta

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-05 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 05 May 2020 11:46:18 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/5/20 11:43 AM, Beartooth wrote: >> On Tue, 05 May 2020 10:37:24 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> >>> It sounds like you started the the upgrade process but it failed part >>> way through. I think doing a re-install would be the much easie

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/5/20 11:43 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2020 10:37:24 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: It sounds like you started the the upgrade process but it failed part way through. I think doing a re-install would be the much easier option, but if you want to keep trying, then we can try a bit more.

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-05 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 05 May 2020 10:37:24 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > It sounds like you started the the upgrade process but it failed part > way through. I think doing a re-install would be the much easier > option, but if you want to keep trying, then we can try a bit more. My bad. I took a guess a

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/5/20 9:03 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2020 13:31:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: What does "cat /etc/fedora-release" tell you? It said 32, much to my surprise. I was pretty sure (to my earlier surprise) that all the packages it had been showing me were 31. If it says you'r

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-05 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 04 May 2020 13:31:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > What does "cat /etc/fedora-release" tell you? It said 32, much to my surprise. I was pretty sure (to my earlier surprise) that all the packages it had been showing me were 31. > If it says you're on F31, then run: > "dnf system-up

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/4/20 1:20 PM, Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2020 11:10:06 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: Can you explain what you meant by "blank flashing panels"? This didn't happen this time, praise whatever gods there be! For the record, I saw two panels, devoid of icons, flashing fast a

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-04 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 04 May 2020 11:10:06 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Then let's skip the whole live boot thing and do it the easy way. :-) I shut it down, removed the live medium, and let it boot F 31. > Can you explain what you meant by "blank flashing panels"? This didn't happen this tim

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/4/20 10:44 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Sun, 03 May 2020 14:41:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by "the panels". So I created an F 32 Mate live medium on another machine, and managed to boot from that. As I see it, I can just install F 32 from live medium; or I c

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-04 Thread Beartooth
Doing this back and forth between two machines is very awkward, and doing it with the KVM switch was worse. If I could make the live medium run Pan, I could jump back and forth with the workspace switcher. Is there a way to do that? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power Us

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-04 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 03 May 2020 14:41:40 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/3/20 10:49 AM, Beartooth wrote: >> On Sat, 02 May 2020 14:24:41 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> >>> I'm not familiar with Mate, but try opening the file browser. At >>> least on Gnome, the available partitions are listed in the list on t

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/3/20 10:49 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Sat, 02 May 2020 14:24:41 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: I'm not familiar with Mate, but try opening the file browser. At least on Gnome, the available partitions are listed in the list on the left and you can click to mount them. Bingo! I see two c

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-03 Thread Beartooth
On Sat, 02 May 2020 14:24:41 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I'm not familiar with Mate, but try opening the file browser. At least > on Gnome, the available partitions are listed in the list on the left > and you can click to mount them. Bingo! I see two choices that are way too big to be

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/2/20 2:08 PM, Beartooth wrote: I downloaded Fedora Mate Live 32 -- and could neither remember nor find the name of Fedora's thumb drive software. So I burned an old- fashioned DVD. And I now have the Thinkpad back behind the KVM switch and booted from the DVD. So I can read this list

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-02 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 01 May 2020 20:16:29 +, I Beartooth wrote: [] > > Do I go looking for a live distro that may let me mount the Thpd's > hard drive and try to fix the panels somehow? > > Do I just call it a total loss and install F 32 from a freshly > downloaded iso on a thumb d

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/2/20 10:30 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Fri, 01 May 2020 14:03:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/1/20 1:16 PM, Beartooth wrote: Since the upgrade reboot, when I KVM to the Thinkpad, I see blank flashing panels on each monitor. There is no terminal emulator anywhere. I've tried a couple

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-02 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 01 May 2020 14:03:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/1/20 1:16 PM, Beartooth wrote: >> Since the upgrade reboot, when I KVM to the Thinkpad, I see blank >> flashing panels on each monitor. There is no terminal emulator >> anywhere. >> I've tried a couple times to reboot it to rescue

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-02 04:16, Beartooth wrote: > Upgrading an E-series Thinkpad, a year or two old, running Fedora > 31, via CLI, the upgrade kept failing with complaints about i.686 -- till > I did "dnf remove mate-*.i.686" -- then it completed, or seemed to. This > machine was behind an HDMI KVM

Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/1/20 1:16 PM, Beartooth wrote: Since the upgrade reboot, when I KVM to the Thinkpad, I see blank flashing panels on each monitor. There is no terminal emulator anywhere. I've tried a couple times to reboot it to rescue mode, but it ignores that. What graphics device do you have?

Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-01 Thread Beartooth
Upgrading an E-series Thinkpad, a year or two old, running Fedora 31, via CLI, the upgrade kept failing with complaints about i.686 -- till I did "dnf remove mate-*.i.686" -- then it completed, or seemed to. This machine was behind an HDMI KVM switch, and was giving a display spread a