Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-12 Thread stan
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:11:46 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > If you're not familiar with which keys moved, then, yeah, you may want > to have another system handy for checking what keys are supposed to be > where in the default keyboard map. The first few times take a bit of > effort, which is why it's

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2012 05:48 PM, Joel Rees wrote: Yeah, I was thinking I maybe should have put a "I'm not talking to you, Jeff." at the top. And if you had, I'd have asked you who you were talking to, because my name isn't "Jeff." -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/11/2012 04:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> He says you've misinterpreted him, which is another communication sin >> (in that it doesn't lead to communication) that we are all sometimes >> prone to. > > > As I wrote before, I wasn't personally

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/11/2012 04:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> He says you've misinterpreted him, which is another communication sin >> (in that it doesn't lead to communication) that we are all sometimes >> prone to. > > > As I wrote before, I wasn't personally

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/11/2012 04:02 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> Of course, you can always try the keys that might have moved -- >> ()[]{}"'=;:+*-_\| and so forth -- where you'd type a user name. You >> often have to think in reverse, of course, as in, "I thought I

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2012 04:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote: He says you've misinterpreted him, which is another communication sin (in that it doesn't lead to communication) that we are all sometimes prone to. As I wrote before, I wasn't personally offended by it, but I've seen enough people on this list recently

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2012 04:02 PM, Joel Rees wrote: Of course, you can always try the keys that might have moved -- ()[]{}"'=;:+*-_\| and so forth -- where you'd type a user name. You often have to think in reverse, of course, as in, "I thought I was typing left-bracket, what would that have been?" I don'

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/11/2012 01:45 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> But let's respect the wishes of the list rules enforcers, please. :) > > > And in writing that, you've completely ignored the reason people get pointed > to the test list and insulted those doin

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Steven Stern
On 04/11/2012 06:02 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > Lately, I am beginning to doubt the wisdom of always hiding the > password when you're setting it, especially now that proper passwords > are generally understood to be long and convoluted. It would sometimes > be nice to have a "Debug keyboard" or "I've c

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > On 04/11/2012 10:34 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> >> You can still login at this prompt with your 'root' account and >> password.  From that point, you can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see >> what happened that caused your X Window System t

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2012 03:02 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Didnt mean to. Don't be overly sensitive Joe. Just because you didn't mean to be offensive doesn't mean that you didn't succeed. Personally, I wasn't offended, partly because I'm not the poster being referred to. However, I've seen enough peopl

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 18:07, Joe Zeff wrote: > and insulted those doing the pointing. Didnt mean to. Don't be overly sensitive Joe. In the end he will go to the test list which is what everyone wants. FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - Geor

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2012 01:45 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: But let's respect the wishes of the list rules enforcers, please. :) And in writing that, you've completely ignored the reason people get pointed to the test list and insulted those doing the pointing. The test list is intended for people who ar

Re: [OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 17:17, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm not judging any of you who have done this, because I'm not interested in > arguing about this.  I'm only making an observation and wondering why. Yes, I remember a thread for instance about how bad it was for "the next fedora version" to includ

[OT] Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/11/2012 09:23 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Once again, F17 is an unreleased system so please keep it to the Test list, not here. If you follow this list you'll have seen a recent thread on exactly this point. I've been on this list for some time, now, and unless my memory's worse than

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:06:50AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > On 04/11/2012 10:34 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >You can still login at this prompt with your 'root' account and > >password. From that point, you can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see > >what happened that caused your X Window System

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 07:08 -0600, Lawrence Graves wrote: > Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 looking for when it > boots up and ask for localhost login. Everything I have tried has > failed. Please help. Once again, F17 is an unreleased system so please keep it to the Test list,

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Mark Haney
On 04/11/2012 10:34 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: You can still login at this prompt with your 'root' account and password. From that point, you can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what happened that caused your X Window System to fail. If you want to post that for people here to look at and

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:32:34 -0300, GAR (Germán) wrote: > On 04/11/2012 10:20 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: > > I am sorry. Some of the what I wrote got cut off. I was talking about > > Fedora 17 Beta RC4 release. > > > > On 04/11/2012 07:13 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On 11/04/12 14:08, Lawrence Gr

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 09:34:57AM -0400, Terry Polzin wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 09:29 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > > On 04/11/2012 09:08 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: > > > Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 looking for when it > > > boots up and ask for localhost login. Everything I

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:08, Lawrence Graves wrote: > Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 looking for when it boots > up and ask for localhost login. Everything I have tried has failed. Please > help. Must be an encrypted partition? btw: I think this list is not for F17 questions.

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 04/11/2012 07:32 AM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 04/11/2012 10:20 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I am sorry. Some of the what I wrote got cut off. I was talking about Fedora 17 Beta RC4 release. On 04/11/2012 07:13 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 11/04/12 14:08, Lawrence Graves wrote: Just want t

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 09:29 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > On 04/11/2012 09:08 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: > > Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 looking for when it > > boots up and ask for localhost login. Everything I have tried has > > failed. Please help. > > -- > > Lawrence Graves Al

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Lawrence Graves
Yes to all of your questions. It did not ask for a new user account. I did it in a virtual machine. VMware Workstation 8 On 04/11/2012 07:29 AM, Mark Haney wrote: On 04/11/2012 09:08 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 looking for when it boots up and as

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 04/11/2012 10:20 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I am sorry. Some of the what I wrote got cut off. I was talking about Fedora 17 Beta RC4 release. On 04/11/2012 07:13 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 11/04/12 14:08, Lawrence Graves wrote: Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 No idea, did

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Mark Haney
On 04/11/2012 09:08 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 looking for when it boots up and ask for localhost login. Everything I have tried has failed. Please help. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. I'm assuming you are

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Lawrence Graves
I am sorry. Some of the what I wrote got cut off. I was talking about Fedora 17 Beta RC4 release. On 04/11/2012 07:13 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 11/04/12 14:08, Lawrence Graves wrote: Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 No idea, didn't know it was released. -- Lawrence Grave

Re: Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On 11/04/12 14:08, Lawrence Graves wrote: Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 No idea, didn't know it was released. -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproje

Login on Fedora 17

2012-04-11 Thread Lawrence Graves
Just want to ask one question. What is Fedora 17 looking for when it boots up and ask for localhost login. Everything I have tried has failed. Please help. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or