Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-09-02 Thread Reindl Harald
would > then be much harder to detect because nothing was changed at that time) and last week as i not locked my workstation while going on toilet somebody could have installed a keylogger in my user-profile or even somebody managed it to put in a USB stick with a unknown exploit *prov

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 31.08.2013, agraham wrote: > Right now I'm looking for answers and a forum in which to discuss this. If you have *proof* for your statements, go to the Linux Kernel Mailinglist and let them show what you have. You could even send a mail to Linus directly. Here's what I consider to be proof f

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Roger
Those are not the types of solutions I was thinking of and in fact before solutions, we need to know if/what/was/when compromised in the kernel, or did you miss the "Give me a list of compromised machines". Who cares! It's old news! it's not hacked now and that's the point! -- users mailin

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread agraham
On 08/31/2013 01:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 08/30/2013 12:35 PM, agraham wrote: As you will all remember, a few years ago we kernel.org was hacked, I cannot remember if that was ever resolved http://www.pcworld.com/article/239400/hack_or_no_hack_the_linux_kernel_is_well_protected.html

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread jdow
Not here. Given your point of origin you certainly appear to be a troll. Bug the kernel list. The results might be amusing. {^_^} On 2013/08/30 18:34, agraham wrote: Where would you suggest the best place? > All of this is off-topic on this list. This has nothing to do with > Fedora specif

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread jdow
On 2013/08/30 18:24, agraham wrote: On 08/30/2013 10:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, agraham wrote: "I KNOW" we can overcome this adversary and regain the freedom that the internet once offered. What? You must have been living under a rock. The Echelon spy netw

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread jdow
On 2013/08/30 14:53, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, agraham wrote: "I KNOW" we can overcome this adversary and regain the freedom that the internet once offered. What? You must have been living under a rock. The Echelon spy network was exposed back in 1999, way before

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread g
On 08/30/2013 08:34 PM, agraham wrote: Where would you suggest the best place? i would tell you, but i would get monitored and barred from this forum for extensive profanity. which i do try to maintain myself above. i _was_ trying to be polite in my first post to your thread busting/hacking

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sat, 31 Aug 2013, agraham wrote: Where would you suggest the best place? Well, the Electronic Frontier Foundation is getting pretty active. I'd go there:https://www.eff.org/ and give monetary support to their legal initiatives. billo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread agraham
Where would you suggest the best place? > All of this is off-topic on this list. This has nothing to do with > Fedora specific help, or usage. Please take the discussion elsewhere. > >Thank you, > > Open source is the future. It sets us free - or locks us up. -- users mailing list users@lists

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread suvayu ali
All of this is off-topic on this list. This has nothing to do with Fedora specific help, or usage. Please take the discussion elsewhere. Thank you, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread agraham
On 08/30/2013 10:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, agraham wrote: "I KNOW" we can overcome this adversary and regain the freedom that the internet once offered. What? You must have been living under a rock. The Echelon spy network was exposed back in 1999, way bef

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/30/2013 12:35 PM, agraham wrote: As you will all remember, a few years ago we kernel.org was hacked, I cannot remember if that was ever resolved http://www.pcworld.com/article/239400/hack_or_no_hack_the_linux_kernel_is_well_protected.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, agraham wrote: > "I KNOW" we can overcome this adversary and regain the freedom that the > internet once offered. What? You must have been living under a rock. The Echelon spy network was exposed back in 1999, way before even 9/11 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/503224

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread g
On 08/30/2013 04:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: <> in addition to Fernando's comments, you really do not have room to talk about someone hacking. why? simple, _you_hacked_ the modeprobe thread. it is excusable by some, but it is disliked by many. myself for one. if you have something to say t

Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread agraham
As you will all remember, a few years ago we kernel.org was hacked, I cannot remember if that was ever resolved, but then we did not know about the NSA Spying programs. We must assume as a matter of defence in depth that the kernel has been compromised and has being for quite some time now.