Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.09.2013 21:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 09.09.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > > [bcache] >> how could this feature turned on at default? >> if you think about it you know it's impossible >> why? because that would mean using a *random??* SSD as cache for *what* >> devices? > > Compiling i

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-09 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.09.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: [bcache] > how could this feature turned on at default? > if you think about it you know it's impossible > why? because that would mean using a *random??* SSD as cache for *what* > devices? Compiling in bcache support *doesn't do anything*. You have to set up

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.09.2013 16:04, schrieb Marko Vojinovic: > On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 09:20:29 -0300 > Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: >>> >>> I'm not aware of such a feature added to 3.11. In case you mean >>> "bcache": it works as a block layer cache (similar to d

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.09.2013 00:07, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > A few questions considering the nice improvements [1] in Kernel 3.11 > > 1. Is there a kernel spec file for Fedora 19 that could be used to compile a > 3.11 kernel with the same build > parameters as the F19 one? not now > 2. Which kernel does F

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > This may interest you, > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug Thanks Rex!. Looks like a good way to try recent kernels without compiling. FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - G

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Rex Dieter
Fernando Cassia wrote: > Hi folks, > > A few questions considering the nice improvements [1] in Kernel 3.11 > > 1. Is there a kernel spec file for Fedora 19 that could be used to compile > a 3.11 kernel with the same build parameters as the F19 one? This may interest you, https://fedoraproject.

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Note though, that this feature will not minimize the writes to the SSD. > Quite the opposite Thanks for the heads up... ok, then Il'll put a HDD to cache writes to the SSD that caches writes to the HDD... no,wait.. joke,joke... FC -- D

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 07.09.2013, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Btw, what is the default for this option in Fedora, on or off? If the > default is on, how to turn it off in the cleanest possible way? Enabling CONFIG_BCACHE alone doesn't do anything to your SSD. You have to set up and register the devices you want to us

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 09:20:29 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > > > I'm not aware of such a feature added to 3.11. In case you mean > > "bcache": it works as a block layer cache (similar to dm-cache), > > which allows to use a solid state drive t

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > I'm not aware of such a feature added to 3.11. In case you mean > "bcache": it works as a block layer cache (similar to dm-cache), which > allows to use a solid state drive to work as a cache for a > rotational harddisk on the same system. Ex

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 07.09.2013, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Im specially interested in that feature of 3.11 I read about last week > -whose name I now forget, it wasnt 'lazy writes'' but close to it- > that would minimize writes to SSDs and extend their life. I'm not aware of such a feature added to 3.11. In case y

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:08 AM, M A Young wrote: > > F20 is scheduled to release with 3.11, and F19 should get a 3.11 kernel soon, > see the recent Fedora Kernel meeting notes Thanks Michael (and Heinz, and everyone else who replied). I think I'm gonna wait for 3.11 to come our way from the offi

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread M A Young
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013, Fernando Cassia wrote: 1. Is there a kernel spec file for Fedora 19 that could be used to compile a 3.11 kernel with the same build parameters as the F19 one? 2. Which kernel does F20 expect to use? F20 is scheduled to release with 3.11, and F19 should get a 3.11 kernel s

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-07 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 07.09.2013, Fernando Cassia wrote: > 1. Is there a kernel spec file for Fedora 19 that could be used to compile > a 3.11 kernel with the same build parameters as the F19 one? I don't know. You could use the Fedora .config which usually resides in /boot after installing a Fedora kernel. > 2.

Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-06 Thread Fernando Cassia
Hi folks, A few questions considering the nice improvements [1] in Kernel 3.11 1. Is there a kernel spec file for Fedora 19 that could be used to compile a 3.11 kernel with the same build parameters as the F19 one? 2. Which kernel does F20 expect to use? 3. Anyone on this list running kernel 3.

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-06 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 09/06/2013 07:07 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Hi folks, A few questions considering the nice improvements [1] in Kernel 3.11 1. Is there a kernel spec file for Fedora 19 that could be used to compile a 3.11 kernel with the same build parameters as the F19 one? You can find here the different