Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 8 February 2018, Ed Greshko sent: > Unless it is possible to inject malware into the device I can't see > it mounting an attack on other devices on the LAN. One of the links I mentioned discussed how to do that (or a link that it linked to). There were various flaws in the

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/08/18 04:59, Tim wrote: > Some cameras merely use a central server as a way of finding your > camera by a name (ala dynamic DNS, mine initially lets you find it by > serial number, if I recall correctly) and for traversing NAT. Come to think of it, you are probably totally right on this whe

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/08/18 04:59, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 7 February 2018, Ed Greshko sent: >> I guess I'm not clear on how things are supposed to work. It sounded >> to me as if the camera was uploading videos into their cloud and if >> someone wanted to view it they would access the cloud and not t

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 7 February 2018, Bob Goodwin sent: > I don't know how I would test for those vulnerabilities > beyond searching for what others have determined. Likewise... Most of us are in that boat. Though, in my case, I could see how insecure my camera was for myself. If you connect

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 7 February 2018, Ed Greshko sent: > I guess I'm not clear on how things are supposed to work. It sounded > to me as if the camera was uploading videos into their cloud and if > someone wanted to view it they would access the cloud and not the > camera directly. Some cameras

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/07/2018 11:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 02/07/18 13:36, Rick Stevens wrote: >> I should have added that your firewall on your router is NOT a >> replacement for having firewalls on your individual computers. I have >> home automation along with a number of cameras. I don't use the cloud to

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 02/07/18 13:36, Rick Stevens wrote: I should have added that your firewall on your router is NOT a replacement for having firewalls on your individual computers. I have home automation along with a number of cameras. I don't use the cloud to handle my cameras (Foscams) although I could. I use

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/07/2018 10:26 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 02/06/2018 02:56 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> I bought twoptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the >> family iPhonesand of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" >> cloud/server in order to view them while away during the day. The >

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/06/2018 02:56 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I bought twoptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the > family iPhonesand of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" > cloud/server in order to view them while away during the day. The > cameras would connect to my LAN and via my route

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 02/07/18 09:18, Ed Greshko wrote: I guess I'm not clear on how things are supposed to work.  It sounded to me as if the camera was uploading videos into their cloud and if someone wanted to view it they would access the cloud and not the camera directly. . Is that how the system works, vide

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/07/18 18:31, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 02/06/18 21:54, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 02/07/18 06:56, Bob Goodwin wrote: >>> I bought two ptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the family >>> iPhones and of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" cloud/server in >>> order to >>> vie

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 02/07/18 05:34, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 6 February 2018, Bob Goodwin sent: Thoughts and advice appreciated, Oh, and check the security of the cameras, themselves. There's a huge number of IP cams with insecure software that, not only exposes the camera to exploits, but your LAN to

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 7 February 2018, Bob Goodwin sent: > what I would like to know is if I am safe in using their cloud? That's going to depend on their cloud *AND* the particular camera. My simplistic advice would be to do searches against the names of their cloud, and the camera, along with

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 02/07/18 05:27, Tim wrote: Is your question that you want to block access to the cloud? Chances are that you can do that, if you control your DNS server (hard code the wrong answer for the cloud's domain name), or if you have a customisable firewall (block its IP address). + No, what I wou

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 6 February 2018, Bob Goodwin sent: > Thoughts and advice appreciated, Oh, and check the security of the cameras, themselves. There's a huge number of IP cams with insecure software that, not only exposes the camera to exploits, but your LAN to exploits through the camera.

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 02/06/18 21:54, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/07/18 06:56, Bob Goodwin wrote: I bought two ptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the family iPhones and of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" cloud/server in order to view them while away during the day. The cameras would conn

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 6 February 2018, Bob Goodwin sent: > I bought twoptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the > family iPhonesand of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" > cloud/server in order to view them while away during the day. The > cameras would connect to my LA

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/07/18 06:56, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > Thoughts and advice appreciated, Oh, and aren't you using a satellite internet connection?   In the past you've indicated if you exceed your data quota it is expensive.  Are you concerned about the uploads of video may impact your wallet?  :-) -- A mot

Re: Internet camera connection -

2018-02-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/07/18 06:56, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I bought twoptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the family > iPhonesand of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" cloud/server in > order to > view them while away during the day. The cameras would connect to my LAN and > via my > rout

Internet camera connection -

2018-02-06 Thread Bob Goodwin
I bought twoptz cameras which can be viewed and controlled with the family iPhonesand of course they would like to use the "Armcrest" cloud/server in order to view them while away during the day. The cameras would connect to my LAN and via my router to the Viasat modem. I have always tried to a