Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 13:33 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:07 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > On 12/1/20 8:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 09:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:59 AM Tom Horsley > > > > wrote: > > >

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 13:21 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:42 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 09:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:59 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 > > > > R

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 13:15 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:39 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 14:52 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > > On 12/1/20 2:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > I have a couple of SATA drives connected via a USB doc

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 12:06 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/1/20 8:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 09:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:59 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 > > > > Roberto Ragusa wrote:

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:38 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 13:33:22 -0700 > Chris Murphy wrote: > > > Yep. For sure the kernel is what's responsible for reading the > > partition table. And that alone would cause a spin up. e.g. > > But why would it need to scan when it is shutting d

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 13:33:22 -0700 Chris Murphy wrote: > Yep. For sure the kernel is what's responsible for reading the > partition table. And that alone would cause a spin up. e.g. But why would it need to scan when it is shutting down the system (which is my case :-). I swear it didn't use to do

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:07 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 12/1/20 8:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 09:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:59 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > >>> > >>> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 > >>> Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >>> >

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:42 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 09:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:59 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 > > > Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > > > > > > How do you power them down? > > > > >

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:39 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 14:52 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > On 12/1/20 2:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I have a couple of SATA drives connected via a USB dock that I use only > > > for backups. Normally they are powered down

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/1/20 8:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 09:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:59 AM Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 Roberto Ragusa wrote: How do you power them down? I don't know about the original poster, but my "noaut

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 09:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:59 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 > > Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > > > > How do you power them down? > > > > I don't know about the original poster, but my "noauto" disks > > timeout

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 08:59 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 > Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > > How do you power them down? > > I don't know about the original poster, but my "noauto" disks > timeout and power down all by themselves, then even when they aren't > mounted at

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 14:52 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 12/1/20 2:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I have a couple of SATA drives connected via a USB dock that I use only > > for backups. Normally they are powered down and only come on at night > > during the backup run. However they als

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:59 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 > Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > > How do you power them down? > > I don't know about the original poster, but my "noauto" disks > timeout and power down all by themselves, then even when they aren't > mounted at al

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/1/20 2:59 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 Roberto Ragusa wrote: How do you power them down? I don't know about the original poster, but my "noauto" disks timeout and power down all by themselves, then even when they aren't mounted at all, every time I reboot, th

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:21 +0100 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > How do you power them down? I don't know about the original poster, but my "noauto" disks timeout and power down all by themselves, then even when they aren't mounted at all, every time I reboot, the reboot hangs while it spins up the disk

Re: Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 12/1/20 2:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I have a couple of SATA drives connected via a USB dock that I use only for backups. Normally they are powered down and only come on at night during the backup run. However they also power on any time I reboot the system and have to be powered down a

Inhibiting device startup at boot

2020-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I have a couple of SATA drives connected via a USB dock that I use only for backups. Normally they are powered down and only come on at night during the backup run. However they also power on any time I reboot the system and have to be powered down again manually. I'd prefer not to power them on at