Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-31 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/31/2012 07:04 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2012 08:01 PM, Tim wrote: >> On the one hand, it says calls do not pass through it (it just >> organises the two parties to connect to each other). And, on the >> other hand, it talks about not exposi

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/30/2012 08:01 PM, Tim wrote: On the one hand, it says calls do not pass through it (it just organises the two parties to connect to each other). And, on the other hand, it talks about not exposing the calling party's IPs, which is an impossible thing to do for peer-to-peer. The only way t

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 22:03 +0100, Piscium wrote: > Although the article says that "calls do not pass through supernodes" > one wonders if that is really true, The article is conflicting, in that regard. On the one hand, it says calls do not pass through it (it just organises the two parties to c

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 00:12 +0100, Piscium wrote: > The issue is how to convince my relatives and friends with > whom I use Skype to switch to something else You have two choices: Find something better, for them. But they're going to want something that can talk to Skype, too, so they can contac

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Piscium
On 30 May 2012 23:36, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Piscium wrote: >> >> . What I would wish is a return >> to the more nuanced approach to data collection that existed before >> 9/11, in particular in Europe. I don't believe that the current >> approach where gove

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Piscium wrote: > . What I would wish is a return > to the more nuanced approach to data collection that existed before > 9/11, in particular in Europe. I don't believe that the current > approach where governments know everything about us makes us any more > secur

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Piscium
On 30 May 2012 22:41, Alan Cox wrote: >> My concern really is that now it is much easier for the American >> security services to have access to everybody's communications. > > It's not changed. Read the analysis on things that have leaked out in > court cases. Skype seems to have all the usual in

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > I would expect the same of the many standards based gateways to the POTS > network. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act#Technical_implementation FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Alan Cox
> My concern really is that now it is much easier for the American > security services to have access to everybody's communications. It's not changed. Read the analysis on things that have leaked out in court cases. Skype seems to have all the usual intercept facilities required by law enforcement

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Piscium wrote: > If I was a shady character I definitely would not use Skype! No need to be a shady character to appreciate the virtues of Jitsi ( www.jitsi.org). FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Piscium
On 30 May 2012 17:19, Jim wrote: > I'm sorry that I may have posted this to the wrong location, but the Linux > world has got to see this. > > Won't  Microsoft have a run in, with the GPL-3 ? > > http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-micro

Re: I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2012 05:19 PM, Jim wrote: > I'm sorry that I may have posted this to the wrong location, but > the Linux world has got to see this. If it's the end of the world as we know it I feel fine. :-) > Won't Microsoft have a run in, with the GPL-3

I do think the world is coming to a end

2012-05-30 Thread Jim
I'm sorry that I may have posted this to the wrong location, but the Linux world has got to see this. Won't Microsoft have a run in, with the GPL-3 ? http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft/ -- users mailing list users@lists