Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-12 Thread poma
On 09.11.2014 23:38, Martín Marqués wrote: > Hi all, > > I was trying to get hibernation working on my F20 laptop with which I work. > > Going through the process, which I thought would be more transparent > or that it would just be like hitting the hibernation and that's it, I > found great defi

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-11 Thread poma
On 11.11.2014 21:50, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 03:18:29 PM Tim wrote: >> It does if you want to suspend/hibernate to the swap space. Your RAM >> has to dump its contents somewhere, and that's where it goes. > > I wonder if it creates an image of the whole RAM available

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-11 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 03:18:29 PM Tim wrote: > It does if you want to suspend/hibernate to the swap space. Your RAM > has to dump its contents somewhere, and that's where it goes. I wonder if it creates an image of the whole RAM available to the system or a snapshot of actual RAM being u

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-11 Thread Tim
Tim: >> It does if you want to suspend/hibernate to the swap space. Your RAM >> has to dump its contents somewhere, and that's where it goes. Roberto Ragusa: > Then consider that swap space is not there doing nothing and just awaiting > your hibernating. > Some of it could be really in use at the

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-11 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 11/11/2014 05:48 AM, Tim wrote: > It does if you want to suspend/hibernate to the swap space. Your RAM > has to dump its contents somewhere, and that's where it goes. Then consider that swap space is not there doing nothing and just awaiting your hibernating. Some of it could be really in use

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-10 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 02:07 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > I don't think swap size has to be bigger than size of RAM. Arch Linux > has a good note on size of swap partition [1] which links to kernel > documentation[2]. I used to make 4GB of swap partition on a system > with 8GB of RAM on Arch Linux

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-10 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 14:30 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > I DO have sympathy for people who would like to deprecate > hibernate because the hardware situation is a big mess. I would have thought suspend harder to support than hibernate. A dump to disc, and back again, ought to work relatively simply

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-10 Thread Ding Yi Chen
- Original Message - > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Martín Marqués > wrote: > > 1) I had trouble getting the system to hibernate. There wasn't > > anything clear about the fact that you needed to have a swap bigger > > than the amount of memory you have. Also, it doesn't work if you

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-10 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: > 1) I had trouble getting the system to hibernate. There wasn't > anything clear about the fact that you needed to have a swap bigger > than the amount of memory you have. Also, it doesn't work if you have > a file as swap (which was the easi

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-10 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:42:07AM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/10/2014 06:36 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: > > 2014-11-09 20:31 GMT-03:00 Pete Travis : > > I had a Dell laptop a which I bought about 4 years ago. I almost > > always suspende

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-10 Thread Pete Travis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2014 06:36 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: > 2014-11-09 20:31 GMT-03:00 Pete Travis : >> >> >> Please file a bug[1] against the documentation you're referencing, >> probably the Power Management Guide? That will help the guide >> coordinator ensur

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-10 Thread Bob Marcan
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:36:27 -0300 Martín Marqués wrote: > 2014-11-09 20:31 GMT-03:00 Pete Travis : > > > About cold boot, well even if the cold boot is fast, there is lots of > things I need to get starting before I start to work (ssh keys, login > to monitoring systems, etc) which make a cold

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-10 Thread Martín Marqués
2014-11-09 20:31 GMT-03:00 Pete Travis : > > > Please file a bug[1] against the documentation you're referencing, > probably the Power Management Guide? That will help the guide > coordinator ensure that the issue is appropriately addressed. Point 1) > seems especially relevant, that much should b

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:31:07 -0700 Pete Travis wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/09/2014 03:38 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was trying to get hibernation working on my F20 laptop with which I > work. > > > > Going through the process, which I

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/14 06:38, Martín Marqués wrote: > Hi all, > > I was trying to get hibernation working on my F20 laptop with which I work. I don't use hibernation myself but > > Going through the process, which I thought would be more transparent > or that it would just be like hitting the hibernation

Re: Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-09 Thread Pete Travis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/09/2014 03:38 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: > Hi all, > > I was trying to get hibernation working on my F20 laptop with which I work. > > Going through the process, which I thought would be more transparent > or that it would just be like hitting th

Hibernate and lack of docs

2014-11-09 Thread Martín Marqués
Hi all, I was trying to get hibernation working on my F20 laptop with which I work. Going through the process, which I thought would be more transparent or that it would just be like hitting the hibernation and that's it, I found great deficiencies in Fedora (maybe just from the kernel) and espec