Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 00:45 +, olivares33561 via users wrote: > I am running Gnome and had a command in ~/.bash_profile to compose > setxkbmap -compose ralt key > > to put a ñ I used ~ and n but it does not work anymore :(. What is > the magic incantanation?  I am using Tom's technique copy pa

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I just wish they put the damn lights next to their keys, so it's >> obvious which was which. My laptop is even worse, it has them >> hidden behind a grill, so they're almost invisible. Tom Horsley: > My logitech MX keys keyboard has the indicator light build into the > button (but it isn'

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 13 May 2022 18:54:03 + olivares33561 via users wrote: > yes using wayland. What do I have to do to get composing working? > I use right alt key. No idea if the user interface can do it, but I was having the same trouble with no way to remap mouse buttons, so I removed the problem by i

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread olivares33561 via users
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with ProtonMail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Friday, May 13th, 2022 at 12:22 PM, James Szinger wrote: > On Fri, 13 May 2022 00:45:50 + > olivares33561 via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > >

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread James Szinger
On Fri, 13 May 2022 00:45:50 + olivares33561 via users wrote: > I am running Gnome and had a command in ~/.bash_profile to compose > setxkbmap -compose ralt key > > to put a ñ I used ~ and n but it does not work anymore :(. What is > the magic incantanation? I am using Tom's technique copy

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 9:21 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 13 May 2022 11:07:56 +0930 > Tim via users wrote: > > > I just wish they put the damn lights next to their keys, so it's > > obvious which was which. My laptop is even worse, it has them hidden > > behind a grill, so they're almost inv

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 13 May 2022 11:07:56 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > I just wish they put the damn lights next to their keys, so it's > obvious which was which. My laptop is even worse, it has them hidden > behind a grill, so they're almost invisible. My logitech MX keys keyboard has the indicator light bu

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 11:18 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 17:06 -0400, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > If the installation is GUI-based, would it make sense to show > > drawings of the Mac/Windows keys in the install/setup instructions, > > so new/forgetful users know what to look

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 00:15 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote: > 12.05.22, 23:32 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan: > > > One thing I've always admired about the MacOS UI (among a bunch of > > things I don't like about it) is the keyboard widget, which is > > always > > available. Click on it and you get th

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 17:06 -0400, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > If the installation is GUI-based, would it make sense to show > drawings of the Mac/Windows keys in the install/setup instructions, > so new/forgetful users know what to look for? Yes it would. But it doesn't mean programmers think that

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Tim via users
Tom Horsley: >> I don't even try to make my fingers work, I just look up special >> characters on the web and cut and paste them from the browser :-). >> (Obviously I don't need them a lot). Roberto Ragusa: > kcharselect from KDE also includes the ability to search for the char > description The

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 11:26 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I type quite a lot in Spanish, so I use dead keys for accents, thus: > ' a -> á > ' e -> é > and so on. For other characters such as ¿ or ¡ I use a combo (Shift- > AltGr-_ and Shift-AltGr-! respectively). I tried dead keys, but it ma

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/12/22 17:45, olivares33561 via users wrote: I am running Gnome and had a command in ~/.bash_profile to compose setxkbmap -compose ralt key to put a ñ I used ~ and n but it does not work anymore :(. What is the magic incantanation? I am using Tom's technique copy paste from web browser. B

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread olivares33561 via users
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with ProtonMail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Thursday, May 12th, 2022 at 10:44 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 07:50 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > > > > I type quite a lot in Spanish,

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Markus Schönhaber
12.05.22, 23:32 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan: One thing I've always admired about the MacOS UI (among a bunch of things I don't like about it) is the keyboard widget, which is always available. Click on it and you get the layout of the keyboard, but it's *dynamic*. Press Shift, Ctrl, Command etc.

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 17:06 -0400, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 12:36 AM Tim via users > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 10:39 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > The first thing the intro to gnome 42 tells me is to use the > > > "Super" > > > key. There is no key labelled "

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 19:58 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 5/12/22 5:02 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Thu, 12 May 2022 07:50:31 -0700 > > Mike Wright wrote: > > > > > When I can't find what I need > > > > I don't even try to make my fingers work, I just look up special > > characters > > on th

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 12:36 AM Tim via users wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 10:39 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > The first thing the intro to gnome 42 tells me is to use the "Super" > > key. There is no key labelled "Super". Some hint about alternate > > names might help the newbies the intro i

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Mike Wright
On 5/12/22 13:50, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/12/22 07:50, Mike Wright wrote: On 5/12/22 03:26, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 14:05 +0930, Tim via users wrote: You define some key to be your compose key (e.g. the right logo key), then you tap it and two character keys, one after

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/12/22 07:50, Mike Wright wrote: On 5/12/22 03:26, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 14:05 +0930, Tim via users wrote: You define some key to be your compose key (e.g. the right logo key), then you tap it and two character keys, one after another, to compose a character out o

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 5/12/22 5:02 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2022 07:50:31 -0700 Mike Wright wrote: When I can't find what I need I don't even try to make my fingers work, I just look up special characters on the web and cut and paste them from the browser :-). (Obviously I don't need them a lot).

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 07:50 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > > I type quite a lot in Spanish, so I use dead keys for accents, > > thus: > > ' a -> á > > ' e -> é > > and so on. For other characters such as ¿ or ¡ I use a combo > > (Shift- > > AltGr-_ and Shift-AltGr-! respectively). I also defined the S

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 12 May 2022 07:50:31 -0700 Mike Wright wrote: > When I can't find what I need I don't even try to make my fingers work, I just look up special characters on the web and cut and paste them from the browser :-). (Obviously I don't need them a lot). __

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Mike Wright
On 5/12/22 03:26, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 14:05 +0930, Tim via users wrote: You define some key to be your compose key (e.g. the right logo key), then you tap it and two character keys, one after another, to compose a character out of symbols that look like what you want

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-05-12 at 14:05 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > You define some key to be your compose key (e.g. the right logo key), > then you tap it and two character keys, one after another, to compose > a > character out of symbols that look like what you want to achieve (or > are otherwise memorabl

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-11 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 10:39 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > The first thing the intro to gnome 42 tells me is to use the "Super" > key. There is no key labelled "Super". Some hint about alternate > names might help the newbies the intro is presumably designed > to help (experimentation revealed it was

First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
Installing in a virtual machine, the spinning worm doesn't spin. The progress bar moves, the install works, but there was apparently no point in the spinner at the left of the progress info. The first thing the intro to gnome 42 tells me is to use the "Super" key. There is no key labelled "Super".