Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 23:41, schrieb David: > On 8/8/2013 5:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> who cares in context of the official release? > >> these are *completly* different binaries with completly different >> shared libraries and a different compiler, they have *nothing* >> common with distribution pa

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 23:12, schrieb David: > I can not say anything about "extensions installed with yum". I use > the official extensions from Mozilla. And they work regardless what > Fedora does. well, so don't complainif you can't say anything >> "long before* is laughable in case of FF23 > I was u

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 23:04, schrieb David: > On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote: >>> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and >>> Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly. >> >> The people doing the packaging and test

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 22:56, schrieb David: > On 8/8/2013 4:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David: >>> On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora >>> mostly bad timing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David: > On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora > >> mostly bad timing >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325 > > Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with each > off

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 21:50, schrieb David: > On 8/8/2013 3:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> * patience * koji * yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update >> firefox\* xulrunner\* thunderbird\* > >> choose one of them :-) > >> the 'regular user' implicitly chooses option 1 > > True. But they are not yet '

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David: > Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunderbird > 17.08? [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64 [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q firefox firefox-23.0-1.fc18.x86_64 [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q xulrunner

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 21:34, schrieb David: > On 8/8/2013 2:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David: >>> Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and >>> Thunderbird 17.08? > >> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird >> thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64 > >>

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.08.2013, David wrote: > Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular > Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I > was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them. > I already have the latest releases. Updates usual

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 05:04:56PM -0400, David wrote: > On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote: > >> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and > >> Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly. > > > > The people doin

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/08/2013 03:26 PM, David wrote: What little 'programing skills' I have, or had, was Dos Basic, IBM OS/2 Warp Rexx, and copying Commodore 64 programs from magazines. Long lost ancient skills. :-) I certainly did not intend to hurt your feelings. Or those of anyone else. Don't worry, yo

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
On 8/8/2013 6:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/08/2013 02:44 PM, David wrote: >> Gee. That I did not know. So you help here then? As a maintainer or >> something? > > No. My programming skills are several decades out of date. I help (or > try to) by sharing my computer and Linux knowledge and by t

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
On 8/8/2013 6:09 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, David wrote: >> Thank you for that. So tell me wwy the Xulrunner dependency for Firefox >> came out right away, it alwyas does, and Firefox was delayed? As it >> always is. > > It looks like the maintainer made a mis

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, David wrote: > Thank you for that. So tell me wwy the Xulrunner dependency for Firefox > came out right away, it alwyas does, and Firefox was delayed? As it > always is. It looks like the maintainer made a mistake and accidentally bumped the version in the RPM wron

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/08/2013 02:44 PM, David wrote: Gee. That I did not know. So you help here then? As a maintainer or something? No. My programming skills are several decades out of date. I help (or try to) by sharing my computer and Linux knowledge and by trying to find answers to questions. Or, to pu

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
On 8/8/2013 5:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/08/2013 02:08 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: >> Otherwise, it takes a couple days for us to test updates and get them >> into the stable repository. A two-day turnaround on something that >> updates as often as Firefox is perfectly reasonable. > > And,

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
On 8/8/2013 5:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/08/2013 02:04 PM, David wrote: >> Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular >> Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I >> was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them. >>

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/2013 5:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.08.2013 23:12, schrieb David: >> I can not say anything about "extensions installed with yum". I >> use the official extensions from Mozilla. And they work >> regardless what Fedora does. > > wel

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/08/2013 02:08 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: Otherwise, it takes a couple days for us to test updates and get them into the stable repository. A two-day turnaround on something that updates as often as Firefox is perfectly reasonable. And, if you don't have the skills to do the packaging,

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/08/2013 02:04 PM, David wrote: Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them. I already have the latest releases. What makes

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
On 8/8/2013 5:08 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:34 PM, David wrote: >> Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with each >> official Mozilla release. >> >> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and >> Betas but the official(s)

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/2013 5:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.08.2013 23:04, schrieb David: >> On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote: I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and Betas b

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/2013 5:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.08.2013 22:56, schrieb David: >> On 8/8/2013 4:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David: On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> I was wondering if there w

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:34 PM, David wrote: > Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with each > official Mozilla release. > > I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and > Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly. *All* Fedora updates

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote: >> I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and >> Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly. > > The people doing the packaging and testing aren't exactly getting paid > for their

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/2013 4:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David: >> On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora >> >>> mostly bad timing >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/s

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote: I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly. The people doing the packaging and testing aren't exactly getting paid for their work. If you want the new releases available

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.08.2013 21:50, schrieb David: >> On 8/8/2013 3:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> * patience * koji * yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update >>> firefox\* xulrunner\* thunderbird\* >> >>> choose one

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/2013 3:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.08.2013 21:34, schrieb David: >> On 8/8/2013 2:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David: Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunde

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
On 8/8/2013 2:53 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: > Yes, I have already installed it. click on the update testings and you > will find itand it works fine. Hope that help. > On 08/08/2013 12:48 PM, David wrote: >> Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunderbird >> 17.08? >> > > -

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/2013 2:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David: >> Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and >> Thunderbird 17.08? > > [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird > thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64 >

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 08/08/2013 03:48 PM, David wrote: Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunderbird 17.08? They are in updates-testing, at least for F19 :) -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread Lawrence Graves
Yes, I have already installed it. click on the update testings and you will find itand it works fine. Hope that help. On 08/08/2013 12:48 PM, David wrote: Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunderbird 17.08? -- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov.

Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-08 Thread David
Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunderbird 17.08? -- David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/co