Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-06-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 16:58 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >>> Are you planning to rsync, twice, once to each drive, or are you looking > >>> to establish a software raid 1 between two attached usb drives? > >> > >> Thanks, Jeff. I am planning to

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-06-06 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >>> Are you planning to rsync, twice, once to each drive, or are you looking >>> to establish a software raid 1 between two attached usb drives? >> >> Thanks, Jeff. I am planning to rsync twice, once to each drive. > > Good idea. Sync them in d

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-06-06 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 05/31/2012 05:03 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Jeff Gipson wrote: >> Are you planning to rsync, twice, once to each drive, or are you looking >> to establish a software raid 1 between two attached usb drives? > > Thanks, Jeff. I am planning to rsync twice, once to e

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-06-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/01/2012 10:06 PM, Thibault Nélis wrote: > On 06/01/2012 04:45 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> Or is the ext4 code able to mount ext3 now (I didn't think so)? > > I'm pretty sure it is fully backward compatible yes, even with ext2 > from what I read

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-06-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.06.2012 23:06, schrieb Thibault Nélis: > On 06/01/2012 04:45 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> Or is the ext4 code able to mount ext3 now (I didn't think so)? > > I'm pretty sure it is fully backward compatible yes, even with ext2 from what > I read. > It simply doesn't use all the new and f

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-06-01 Thread Thibault Nélis
On 06/01/2012 04:45 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Or is the ext4 code able to mount ext3 now (I didn't think so)? I'm pretty sure it is fully backward compatible yes, even with ext2 from what I read. It simply doesn't use all the new and fancy features obviously. -- t -- users mailing list user

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-06-01 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/01/2012 01:14 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> Aside from some clear performance wins for not-that-uncommon >> workloads (deleting lots of large files, storing large images >> etc) there's the fact that most of the attention upstream these >> days is go

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-06-01 Thread Alan Cox
> Aside from some clear performance wins for not-that-uncommon workloads > (deleting lots of large files, storing large images etc) there's the > fact that most of the attention upstream these days is going into ext4 > - - the earlier ext* file systems are pretty much in maintenance mode today. Yo

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread J.Witvliet
data. Hw - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Jeff Gipson [mailto:jeffagip...@gmail.com] Verzonden: Thursday, May 31, 2012 04:58 PM Aan: Community support for Fedora users Onderwerp: Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 03:01:09PM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Thibault Nélis
On 05/31/2012 05:09 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: I tend to encourage people to pick ext4 over ext3 on modern hardware and software. Aside from some clear performance wins for not-that-uncommon workloads (deleting lots of large files, storing large images etc) there's the fact that most of the atten

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Gipson wrote: >> Where do you place your backups, Jeff? :-) > > Well, I just started using SpiderOak. Jury's still out. Their > deduplication and compression ratio seems pretty good (185GiB on my disk > becomes 145GiB in their system), and they support file ve

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Jeff Gipson
> Where do you place your backups, Jeff? :-) > > Paul > -- Well, I just started using SpiderOak. Jury's still out. Their deduplication and compression ratio seems pretty good (185GiB on my disk becomes 145GiB in their system), and they support file versioning, but don't seem to have a point-in-t

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/31/2012 04:01 PM, Jeff Gipson wrote: > >> I have already an external disk formatted with ext3, but for >> safety reasons I am now wanting to have two external disks with >> the same backups. When I formatted the first external disk, I did >> not

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/31/2012 03:58 PM, Jeff Gipson wrote: > That's a good point. I guess now would be a good time to mention > that a volume snapshot != backup (see below), however, I've heard > of snapshots sometimes being used to create a "still" or > "point-in-tim

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Jeff Gipson wrote: > >> I have already an external disk formatted with ext3, but for safety >> reasons I am now wanting to have two external disks with the same >> backups. When I formatted the first external disk, I did not know >> about ext4 (only knew about ext3

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Jeff Gipson wrote: > As far as using an external drive is concerned, for my backups, I opted > not to do this, because when my house burns or gets blown away by a > tornado, or is robbed (in which case the burgler is likely to take > everything attached to the comp

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Jeff Gipson
> I have already an external disk formatted with ext3, but for safety > reasons I am now wanting to have two external disks with the same > backups. When I formatted the first external disk, I did not know > about ext4 (only knew about ext3). So, from what you are suggestion, > ext4 is superior t

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Jeff Gipson
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 03:01:09PM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/31/2012 02:35 PM, Jeff Gipson wrote: > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:15:58PM +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > >> Dear All, > >> > >> I have got a new external hard disk, which I wo

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >>> I have got a new external hard disk, which I would like to use as >>> a mirror of my home directory (for backup purpose). What format >>> for the external disk filesystem do you recommend? And what the >>> proper command to accomplish the

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/31/2012 02:35 PM, Jeff Gipson wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:15:58PM +0100, Paul Smith wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> I have got a new external hard disk, which I would like to use as >> a mirror of my home directory (for backup purpose). What f

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Jeff Gipson
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:15:58PM +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > I have got a new external hard disk, which I would like to use as a > mirror of my home directory (for backup purpose). What format for the > external disk filesystem do you recommend? And what the proper command > to acco

Re: Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/31/2012 12:15 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > I have got a new external hard disk, which I would like to use as > a mirror of my home directory (for backup purpose). What format for > the external disk filesystem do you recommend? And what the proper > c

Filesystem format for external hard disk

2012-05-31 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I have got a new external hard disk, which I would like to use as a mirror of my home directory (for backup purpose). What format for the external disk filesystem do you recommend? And what the proper command to accomplish the formatting? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list