Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2025-01-27 Thread Stephen Morris
On 22/1/25 09:37, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 7:22 PM Stephen Morris wrote: To test my hard disk performance I have run Kdiskmark and used the Real World Performance Profile. For its sequential read performance it is showing around 156 MB/s on my ST3000DM007-1WY1 (3TB S

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2025-01-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 7:22 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > To test my hard disk performance I have run Kdiskmark and used the Real > World Performance Profile. For its sequential read performance it is showing > around 156 MB/s on my ST3000DM007-1WY1 (3TB Seagate Barracuda), which given > th

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-22 Thread Barry
> On 21 Nov 2024, at 13:57, John Mellor wrote: > > In the Disks app, select the disk, go to the 3 dots on the top right, select > write cache and select disable. I'm unsure, but you might need to reboot as > well. You can also do this in the CLI, but its been years since I have had > to do

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-21 Thread John Mellor
Disks in mainframe days had no onboard cache, and the O/S had to do all that.  Today that has been built into much cheaper disks. While there is no mechanism to determine what is cached by the onboard disk memory and what is not, there are situations where you need disk cacheing to be disabled

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-20 Thread Tim via users
Stephen Morris wrote: > > > 40 years ago mainframe storage controllers provided functionality to > > > control what files were loaded into the storage cache and how much of > > > the file was loaded, I just thought hard disks had advanced enough to > > > now provide similar functionality. Tim: > >

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-19 Thread Stephen Morris
On 19/11/24 13:22, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2024-11-19 at 08:39 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: 40 years ago mainframe storage controllers provided functionality to control what files were loaded into the storage cache and how much of the file was loaded, I just thought hard disks had advanced enough to

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-19 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 2:27 AM Tim via users wrote: > The other thing to consider with drive thrashing, that I don't recall > seeing being mentioned in this thread is a drive with errors. If it's > having trouble reading/writing its media, performance will be awful. > > At one time the standard

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2024-11-19 at 12:52 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Tue, 2024-11-19 at 08:39 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > 40 years ago mainframe storage controllers provided functionality to > > control what files were loaded into the storage cache and how much of > > the file was loaded, I just thoug

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-18 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-11-19 at 08:39 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > 40 years ago mainframe storage controllers provided functionality to > control what files were loaded into the storage cache and how much of > the file was loaded, I just thought hard disks had advanced enough to > now provide similar funct

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2024-11-17 14:32, Felix Miata wrote: Stephen Morris composed on 2024-11-18 09:07 (UTC+1100): For me on my hard disk its giving: /dev/sdd: Timing cached reads:   52114 MB in  1.99 seconds = 26165.57 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 492 MB in  3.01 seconds = 163.69 MB/sec and on my SSD

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-18 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 4:46 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > On 18/11/24 10:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > Yes, a full cache can cause performance issues, but I would expect to be able > to play around with the caching algorithms to control what gets cached and > what doesn't, particularly when looking

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/11/24 10:36, Samuel Sieb wrote: Yes, a full cache can cause performance issues, but I would expect to be able to play around with the caching algorithms to control what gets cached and what doesn't, particularly when looking at sequential vs random access, combined with disk fragmentation

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2024-11-17 14:00, Stephen Morris wrote: On 17/11/24 18:02, Tim wrote: Chris Adams: That's a misunderstanding of how things work. The SATA port speed is just an upper-bound on transfer, but has nothing to do with how fast a device can actually read data (similar to having a 1G network card a

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > Because big numbers are a marketing ploy... Sure, there's *something* > > that the SATA port can do at that speed, but it's not continuously > > churn your data through in the way that you'd like. Stephen Morris: > Yes, I understand that but when the device specs specify that the > d

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Felix Miata
Stephen Morris composed on 2024-11-18 09:07 (UTC+1100): > For me on my hard disk its giving: > /dev/sdd: > Timing cached reads:   52114 MB in  1.99 seconds = 26165.57 MB/sec > Timing buffered disk reads: 492 MB in  3.01 seconds = 163.69 MB/sec > and on my SSD it is giving: > /dev/sdc: > Timing

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/11/24 16:02, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: I've always hdparm -Tt to test drives. hdparm -Tt /dev/sda /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 10716 MB in 1.99 seconds = 5377.96 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 700 MB in 3.00 seconds = 232.99 MB/sec For me on my hard disk its giving: /dev/

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/11/24 18:02, Tim wrote: Chris Adams: That's a misunderstanding of how things work. The SATA port speed is just an upper-bound on transfer, but has nothing to do with how fast a device can actually read data (similar to having a 1G network card and even Internet service doesn't mean sites

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Frank Bures
On 2024-11-17 14:52, Frank Bures wrote: On 2024-11-17 02:02, Tim via users wrote: And maybe you could get a RAID device which has SATA ports to the PC, so it can spread the load internally across several drives and keep up with a very high data speed.  I've never looked to see if anyone has ac

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Frank Bures
On 2024-11-17 02:02, Tim via users wrote: And maybe you could get a RAID device which has SATA ports to the PC, so it can spread the load internally across several drives and keep up with a very high data speed. I've never looked to see if anyone has actually done that. Back in the early 00'

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen Morris said: > If that is the case why does the specs for that device under > performance say it will support speeds of 1Gb/s, 3Gb/s and 6Gb/s. Because that is the speed of the link between the drive and the controller/motherboard. It's possible for an individual sector

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Barry
> On 17 Nov 2024, at 04:45, Stephen Morris wrote: > > If that is the case why does the specs for that device under performance say > it will support speeds of 1Gb/s, 3Gb/s and 6Gb/s. Because that is the spec of the connectors on the motherboard. It provides an upper bound on transfer speed, b

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-17 Thread Tim via users
Chris Adams: > > That's a misunderstanding of how things work. The SATA port speed is > > just an upper-bound on transfer, but has nothing to do with how fast a > > device can actually read data (similar to having a 1G network card and > > even Internet service doesn't mean sites will serve data t

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-16 Thread Stephen Morris
On 17/11/24 11:54, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Stephen Morris said:     To test my hard disk performance I have run Kdiskmark and used the Real World Performance Profile. For its sequential read performance it is showing around 156 MB/s on my ST3000DM007-1WY1 (3TB Seagate Barracuda), w

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-16 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 17 Nov 2024 at 15:44, Stephen Morris wrote: Date sent: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:44:51 +1100 Subject:Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org From: Stephen Morris Copies to: steve.morris...@gmail.com Send reply to: Community support for Fedora

Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-16 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     To test my hard disk performance I have run Kdiskmark and used the Real World Performance Profile. For its sequential read performance it is showing around 156 MB/s on my ST3000DM007-1WY1 (3TB Seagate Barracuda), which given that device support 1/3/6 Gb/s I/O speeds and the device is p

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-16 Thread Felix Miata
Stephen Morris composed on 2024-11-17 11:22 (UTC+1100): >     To test my hard disk performance I have run Kdiskmark and used the > Real World Performance Profile. For its sequential read performance it > is showing around 156 MB/s on my ST3000DM007-1WY1 (3TB Seagate > Barracuda), That's typic

Re: Fedora F41 Hard Disk Performance

2024-11-16 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen Morris said: >     To test my hard disk performance I have run Kdiskmark and used > the Real World Performance Profile. For its sequential read > performance it is showing around 156 MB/s on my ST3000DM007-1WY1 > (3TB Seagate Barracuda), which given that device support 1/