Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-09-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.09.2013 18:12, schrieb Paul Wouters: > On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> I don't get it, either >> >> google "dhe versus ecdhe performance" >> >> http://vincent.bernat.im/en/blog/2011-ssl-perfect-forward-secrecy.html Let’s focus on the server part. Enabling DHE-RSA-AES128-SH

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-09-09 Thread Reindl Harald
much support forward secrecy in a way *nobody* else on this planet is supporting it and so you repsonse below is uneducated - period Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy Datum: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:07:29 +0200 Von: Florian Weimer An: Development discuss

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-09-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.09.2013 23:31, schrieb D. Hugh Redelmeier: > | From: Reindl Harald > | Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:38:21 +0200 > > | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D319901 > | > | looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining > | which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-09-09 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/07/2013 12:52 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Regardless, I think that argument would be an ignorant one: > Approximately no one runs non-ECDH PFS on the web: it's insanely slow > and it breaks clients. Hmm. Isn't non-ECDH PFS just straight integer (mod N) Diffie-Hellman? And that's what is in

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-09-06 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Reindl Harald | Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:38:21 +0200 | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D319901 | | looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining | which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these | days in context of PRISM and more and more Ciphers | are going

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 16:24, schrieb Chuck Anderson: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:17:52AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> cause and effect >> because Fedora does *not* support Ciphers without large performance impacts >> >> in reality without ECDHE you have no way >> go to https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.08.2013, Alchemist wrote: > Very good discussion. This is an important issue. OpenSSL with Elliptic > Curve was added to the http://rpmfusion.org/Wishlist, but the question > remains open Is the crypto the real problem (=weakest link), or is it something else? I guess that would be the re

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Alchemist
2013/8/24 Reindl Harald > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901 > > looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining > which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these > days in context of PRISM and more and more Ciphers > are going to be unuseable (BEAST/CRIME weakness) >

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 11:07, schrieb Florian Weimer: > On 08/24/2013 11:38 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901 >> >> looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining >> which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these >> days in context of PRISM and mo

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.08.2013 13:26, schrieb Jan-Frode Myklebust: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:07:29AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> On 08/24/2013 11:38 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901 >>> >>> looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining >>> which does

Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-08-26 Thread Reindl Harald
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=319901 looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these days in context of PRISM and more and more Ciphers are going to be unuseable (BEAST/CRIME weakness) ___