Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:03:10 -0800, >  Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 11/27/2010 02:42 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> > Arguably you >> > might also need to provide the source for the build scripts for making the >> > VM >> > image. >> >> So?  

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:03:10 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/27/2010 02:42 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > Arguably you > > might also need to provide the source for the build scripts for making the > > VM > > image. > > So? You make the source for the build scripts available along with any

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/27/2010 02:42 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Arguably you > might also need to provide the source for the build scripts for making the VM > image. So? You make the source for the build scripts available along with any specialized programs. For the rest, a pointer to the distro's sources s

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread bruce
hey, not a lawyer, but i doubt if anyone else replying here is either. but i've gotten plenty of VMs from different sites that people have used different linux OS (fedora/centos/debian/et...) and i've never gotten the source in the VM, I have at times seen/reviewed docs that have pointed me to wh

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:03:10 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > Are trying to tell me that I should install al srpms inside the VM?. I would expect that if you don't do an update after you build the VM, you can probably ask people you give the VM to if they want the source and if they say y

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On 27/11/10 15:03, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Are trying to tell me that I should install al srpms inside the VM?. > > Are then all images on virtualboximages.org in defiance of the > GPL?.Seems a bit ridiculous to me. > > When lawyers trump common sense, it´s the time that I stop. > > FC if uncert

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:59:04 -0300, >  Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: >> >> If someone asks, I will provide the source. I don´t believe anywhere in the >> GPL it makes the explicit

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:59:04 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: > > If someone asks, I will provide the source. I don´t believe anywhere in the > GPL it makes the explicit requirement to upload the sources to a public web > server. Fro

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 09:14:40 -0300, > Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > > What scripts? > > > > Virtualbox provides a menu option titled "Export VM Appliance". > > > > There are no scripts. > > How did the system get built in the first

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 09:14:40 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > What scripts? > > Virtualbox provides a menu option titled "Export VM Appliance". > > There are no scripts. How did the system get built in the first place? If you just do one off steps then probably it doesn't matter. If yo

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: > On 11/26/2010 01:37 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> If you distribute binaries, you need to make source code available as > well. > >> There are a few ways to do that and you wa

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Mike Wohlgemuth
On 11/26/2010 01:37 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> If you distribute binaries, you need to make source code available as well. >> There are a few ways to do that and you want to make sure you are doing at >> least one of them. > The source c

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 15:37:12 -0300, >  Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 14:48:52 -0300, >> >  Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> >> >> A full Linux installation

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 15:37:12 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 14:48:52 -0300, > >  Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> > >> A full Linux installation in a VM doesn´t already include all > >> copyright and licenses i

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-26 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 14:48:52 -0300, >  Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> A full Linux installation in a VM doesn´t already include all >> copyright and licenses inside the VM file?. > > If you distribute binaries, you need to make source co

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 14:48:52 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > A full Linux installation in a VM doesn´t already include all > copyright and licenses inside the VM file?. If you distribute binaries, you need to make source code available as well. There are a few ways to do that and you wan

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-26 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:50:10 -0300, >  Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Markku Kolkka wrote: >> > 23.11.2010 15:52, Fernando Cassia kirjoitti: >> >> Are there any restrictions, for ditributing a pre-installe

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:50:10 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Markku Kolkka wrote: > > 23.11.2010 15:52, Fernando Cassia kirjoitti: > >> Are there any restrictions, for ditributing a pre-installed Fedora VM > >> appliance (for Virtualbox)? > > > > The Tradem

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Markku Kolkka wrote: > 23.11.2010 15:52, Fernando Cassia kirjoitti: >> Are there any restrictions, for ditributing a pre-installed Fedora VM >> appliance (for Virtualbox)? > > The Trademark Guidelines: > (use http://tinyurl.com/32fbuy5 if the above long URL is bro

Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-23 Thread Markku Kolkka
23.11.2010 15:52, Fernando Cassia kirjoitti: > Are there any restrictions, for ditributing a pre-installed Fedora VM > appliance (for Virtualbox)? The Trademark Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_combinations_of_Fedora_software_

Distributing a Fedora appliance

2010-11-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
Are there any restrictions, for ditributing a pre-installed Fedora VM appliance (for Virtualbox)? I´d like to do one (in fact, I´ve already done one, just not distributed it), centered around Java, with OpenJDK presinstaled, the IcedTea plug-ins, and other apps pre-installed like jEdit. Second qu