Re: [OT] was, Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-03 Thread Todd Zullinger
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > So my advice to you is to just drop the subject. If you don't trust > javascript yourself, you are welcome to disable it or use no-script. > But please don't try to convince the whole world that there is a > major security hole in it, because there isn't, and people will >

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
JD writes: At the very least, javascript should be blocked just because it is invasive! And you were told, several times, how to block javascript. Have you already blocked Javascript from being executed in your browser, as I and others have told you to do? pgpd7JpP03Szk.pgp Description:

Re: [OT] was, Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 03 July 2011 06:40:21 JD wrote: > Well, javascript is known to be "craftable" to do evil. > I am sure you have already seen the links I sent. You know, I can provide you with a whole bunch of links on the net about people being abducted by aliens and experimented on. Does that mean that

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.07.2011 05:32, schrieb JD: > At the very least, javascript should be blocked just because > it is invasive! your probem is that everybody can see how you started this discussion which showed that you are a technical noob and so you can not be qualified for rants like "When will the linux c

Re: [OT] was, Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread JD
On 07/02/2011 10:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/02/2011 09:40 PM, JD wrote: >> Actually, no. >> I mean drugs that will kill you even when you take them >> as Rx'ed! >> I am sure you have heard the TV/Radio ads for some drugs?? >> Many state that death is a possible side effect > Not to pick a nit,

[OT] was, Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/02/2011 09:40 PM, JD wrote: > Actually, no. > I mean drugs that will kill you even when you take them > as Rx'ed! > I am sure you have heard the TV/Radio ads for some drugs?? > Many state that death is a possible side effect Not to pick a nit, but if you take a drug, such as penicillin, and

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread JD
On 07/02/2011 09:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/03/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: >> Taking this offline - >> with noscript, all are blocked by default - no whitelist. >> I temporarily unblock specific sites that I do business with. > OK. > > But just a request, from me at least. Could you make a note

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread JD
On 07/02/2011 09:12 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/02/2011 08:32 PM, JD wrote: >> It is all based on vested interests who stand to profit from something >> that is pushed and marketed as safe. Like so many drug companies >> that pushed and still push drugs with deadly side effects. > You mean like ins

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/03/2011 11:59 AM, JD wrote: > Taking this offline - > with noscript, all are blocked by default - no whitelist. > I temporarily unblock specific sites that I do business with. OK. But just a request, from me at least. Could you make a note somewhere for yourself that you've disabled javasc

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/02/2011 08:32 PM, JD wrote: > It is all based on vested interests who stand to profit from something > that is pushed and marketed as safe. Like so many drug companies > that pushed and still push drugs with deadly side effects. You mean like insulin? It can be deadly, you know, if you take

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread JD
On 07/02/2011 08:51 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > so.have you blocked it? > > d > Taking this offline - with noscript, all are blocked by default - no whitelist. I temporarily unblock specific sites that I do business with. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/03/2011 11:32 AM, JD wrote: > At the very least, javascript should be blocked just because > it is invasive! That is the conclusion you've reached for yourself based on your knowledge of the subject matter. So, by all means, disable javascript in your browser. Also, you'll need to do it in

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting JD : > On 07/02/2011 06:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 07/02/2011 05:48 PM, JD wrote: >>> I do understand why you are so shrill in defending >>> javascript, and resorting to cussing and name calling. >>> Apparently it is your bread and butter :) >> JD, if one or two people here were insistin

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread JD
On 07/02/2011 06:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/02/2011 05:48 PM, JD wrote: >> I do understand why you are so shrill in defending >> javascript, and resorting to cussing and name calling. >> Apparently it is your bread and butter :) > JD, if one or two people here were insisting that you're wrong,

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/02/2011 05:48 PM, JD wrote: > I do understand why you are so shrill in defending > javascript, and resorting to cussing and name calling. > Apparently it is your bread and butter :) JD, if one or two people here were insisting that you're wrong, and that javascript can't do what you say it'

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.07.2011 02:48, schrieb JD: > I do understand why you are so shrill in defending > javascript, and resorting to cussing and name calling. > Apparently it is your bread and butter :) no because the world where i develop is living on the serverside there is nothing to defend agianst learnin

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread JD
On 07/02/2011 05:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 03.07.2011 02:17, schrieb JD: >> When I knowingly and deliberately browse my files, >> cannot be deemed to be the same as a javascript >> that some web site sends to my computer to be executed >> by the browser to snoop on my files. > why do you n

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.07.2011 02:17, schrieb JD: > When I knowingly and deliberately browse my files, > cannot be deemed to be the same as a javascript > that some web site sends to my computer to be executed > by the browser to snoop on my files. why do you not stop talking about things you do not understand s

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread JD
On 07/02/2011 01:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 02.07.2011 16:50, schrieb JD: >> On 07/02/2011 01:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 02.07.2011 06:14, schrieb JD: >>> When will the linux community wake up and shout out loud: Kill JavaScript from all browsers and all network servers >>

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On 07/02/2011 11:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 02.07.2011 23:16, schrieb Christopher Svanefalk: > >> Reindl - just a friendly tip: going civil goes a long way. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris > sorry, but reading so much bulls**it from OP hurts me > Yea man I'm not trying to be a wiseguy, I'm just

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.07.2011 23:16, schrieb Christopher Svanefalk: > Reindl - just a friendly tip: going civil goes a long way. > > Cheers, > > Chris sorry, but reading so much bulls**it from OP hurts me signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On 07/02/2011 10:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 02.07.2011 16:50, schrieb JD: >> On 07/02/2011 01:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Am 02.07.2011 06:14, schrieb JD: >>> When will the linux community wake up and shout out loud: Kill JavaScript from all browsers and all network servers >>

DAMNED Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

2011-07-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.07.2011 16:50, schrieb JD: > On 07/02/2011 01:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 02.07.2011 06:14, schrieb JD: >> >>> When will the linux community wake up and shout out loud: >>> Kill JavaScript from all browsers and all network servers >>> and network clients >> never because the community