Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Bill Davidsen: >> I stopped caring after not getting a response, and follow this thread >> now for amusement, watching sensible people not only beat a dead horse, >> but drag the carcass through the streets. Steven Stern: > Couldn't resist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs Awww, I was

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Reindl Harald wrote: Am 01.04.2013 20:06, schrieb Joe Zeff: On 04/01/2013 10:51 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: There are reasons for running old versions, but but only a few of us have a good one. there are NO REASONS for Fedora if you need LTS because you have reasons you use the wrong distribut

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 04/01/2013 11:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: never saw anything on a fedora-setup which could not be repaired, even dist-upgrades with power interruption in the middle of the yum-upgrade... I'd prefer to repair, of course. (I once spent almost a week cleaning up an upgrade that hung,

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 04/01/2013 11:25 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: and i went the opposite way So did I, but I turned around and came back. When I was doing phone tech support, I probably got a bad reputation as somebody the younger techs should avoid because I was very impatient with them. After several years,

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Am 01.04.2013 20:20, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/01/2013 11:10 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and why did you not >> >> * login after press CTRL+ALT+F3 as root >> * type "cat /var/log/yum.log" >> * yum downgrade "package1 package2 package3" >> >> ? >> >> this is not windows

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Am 01.04.2013 20:03, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > Junk wrote: >> On 03/30/2013 09:07 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> Hi Richard, you appear to be replying to Reindl, While occasionally >> informative >> he is predisposed to be aggressive in his responses, I find it easier to >> filter >> out his m

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 04/01/2013 11:10 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: and why did you not * login after press CTRL+ALT+F3 as root * type "cat /var/log/yum.log" * yum downgrade "package1 package2 package3" ? this is not windows I did; it didn't help. And, as I said, I'm not trying to hija

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Am 01.04.2013 20:06, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/01/2013 10:51 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> There are reasons for running old versions, but but only a few of us >> have a good one. there are NO REASONS for Fedora if you need LTS because you have reasons you use the wrong distribution > I stopped c

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 04/01/2013 10:51 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: There are reasons for running old versions, but but only a few of us have a good one. I stopped caring after not getting a response, and follow this thread now for amusement, watching sensible people not only beat a dead horse, but drag the carcass thr

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Junk wrote: On 03/30/2013 09:07 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Hi Richard, you appear to be replying to Reindl, While occasionally informative he is predisposed to be aggressive in his responses, I find it easier to filter out his mails and limit my replys to other posters. He is knowledgeable, b

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 04/01/2013 12:51 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I stopped caring after not getting a response, and follow this thread > now for amusement, watching sensible people not only beat a dead horse, > but drag the carcass through the streets. Couldn't resist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs -

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Reindl Harald wrote: Am 31.03.2013 05:47, schrieb Richard Vickery: On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Joe Zeff mailto:j...@zeff.us>> wrote: On 03/30/2013 08:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: In my world, those of political science and law, research is done in books or onlin

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Sun, 2013-03-31 at 09:26 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > I wonder ifanyone has given any thought to this surprise being exactly > that > which is why universities will never install Fedora or Red Hat on any > of > their boxes, much less entirely. Microsoft will ALWAYS beat us out > when > they'r

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 03/30/2013 09:07 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Reindl Harald > wrote: > > > > Am 30.03.2013 04:51, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > Those with much more experience in the group and Linux will tell > you that this versi

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Am 31.03.2013 18:59, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Thanks Frank, but I don't think it's me that you / we have to worry about; I > think we much more have to worry about > those making the decisions on the university campus. > > If it is a user calling me an idiot, perhaps Red Hat ought to moderate

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

| From: Reindl Harald | Am 30.03.2013 04:51, schrieb Richard Vickery: | > Those with much more experience in the group and Linux will tell you that this version is no longer supported, and | > that you should download the current one if you need help. It sounds rather cold when they say it, bu

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 03/31/2013 09:35 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: Sorry, I shouldn't have said "helpful"; by "more helpful" I ought to have said that they don't disrespect the users' humanity by calling them idiots. So you're going to call the entire Fedora community disrespectful simply because one bad-tempered

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 03/31/2013 09:15 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: I installed the CD that came with the book. At the time, I didn't know the website existed. Didn't the book mention the website? If not, why didn't you look around? A simple Google search would have found it. -- users mailing list users@lists.f

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Mar 31, 2013 9:41 AM, "Frank Murphy" wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:35:23 -0700 > Richard Vickery wrote: > > that which is why universities will never install Fedora or Red Hat > > on any of their boxes, much less entirely. Microsoft will ALWAYS > > beat us out when they're far more helpful

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:35:23 -0700 Richard Vickery wrote: > that which is why universities will never install Fedora or Red Hat > on any of their boxes, much less entirely. Microsoft will ALWAYS > beat us out when they're far more helpful than we are. > > Sorry, I shouldn't have said "helpful"; b

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Mar 31, 2013 9:26 AM, "Richard Vickery" wrote: > > > On Mar 31, 2013 3:56 AM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > > > > > Am 31.03.2013 05:47, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Joe Zeff > wrote: > > > > > > On 03/30/2013 08:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Mar 31, 2013 3:56 AM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 31.03.2013 05:47, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Joe Zeff > wrote: > > > > On 03/30/2013 08:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > > > In my world, those of political science and law, research is done

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

I installed the CD that came with the book. At the time, I didn't know the website existed. On Mar 30, 2013 9:16 PM, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > On 03/30/2013 08:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> >> >> How would I know to look for something that I would not be sure I had an >> interest in, let alone kno

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Am 31.03.2013 07:42, schrieb Tim: > Allegedly, on or about 30 March 2013, Joe Zeff sent: >> Well, you could start by going to https://fedoraproject.org/ and >> looking around to see what the people running have to say. I think >> it's called "due diligence," or something like that. > > The tro

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Am 31.03.2013 05:47, schrieb Richard Vickery: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Joe Zeff > wrote: > > On 03/30/2013 08:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > > In my world, those of political science and law, research is done in > books or online reports wher

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Allegedly, on or about 30 March 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > Well, you could start by going to https://fedoraproject.org/ and > looking around to see what the people running have to say. I think > it's called "due diligence," or something like that. The trouble with trawling the web, or even single we

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 03/30/2013 08:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: How would I know to look for something that I would not be sure I had an interest in, let alone know exists? Well, you could start by going to https://fedoraproject.org/ and looking around to see what the people running have to say. I think it'

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/30/2013 08:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> In my world, those of political science and law, research is done in >> books or online reports where we know what to look for, and we have a >> pretty good knowledge of what the cases are that

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On 03/30/2013 08:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: In my world, those of political science and law, research is done in books or online reports where we know what to look for, and we have a pretty good knowledge of what the cases are that we're making; plus, we have librarians ready and willing to he

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.03.2013 22:07, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > I'm just offering my understanding of the cycles, Reindl. Perhaps I > should have prefaced my contribution as such, > > but that is not grounds for calling it ZERO. Calling my contribution

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Am 30.03.2013 22:07, schrieb Richard Vickery: > I'm just offering my understanding of the cycles, Reindl. Perhaps I should > have prefaced my contribution as such, > but that is not grounds for calling it ZERO. Calling my contribution ZERO > indicates that I took a class on > understanding the

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.03.2013 04:51, schrieb Richard Vickery: > > Those with much more experience in the group and Linux will tell you > that this version is no longer supported, and > > that you should download the current one if you need help. It soun

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Am 30.03.2013 04:51, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Those with much more experience in the group and Linux will tell you that > this version is no longer supported, and > that you should download the current one if you need help. It sounds rather > cold when they say it, but they've > answered the

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:47:07 -0600 Bill Kuns wrote: > that I select a driver. What driver? Where do I find the blasted > thing? Isn't there a driver > on the Fedora 15 DVD? > It depends on the hardware your using. As F15 is old in Fedora Releases, the "driver" you need may not be built into

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Bill Kuns wrote: > ** > My computer died, so I have to make a new one. The thing comes up nicely, > but when I try > to load the Fedora 15 I've been using, it won't go. I keep getting this > screen which demands > that I select a driver. What driver? Where do

Re: Can't Load Fedora 15

Bill Kuns wrote: My computer died, so I have to make a new one. The thing comes up nicely, but when I try to load the Fedora 15 I've been using, it won't go. I keep getting this screen which demands that I select a driver. What driver? Where do I find the blasted thing? Isn't there a driver

Can't Load Fedora 15

My computer died, so I have to make a new one. The thing comes up nicely, but when I try to load the Fedora 15 I've been using, it won't go. I keep getting this screen which demands that I select a driver. What driver? Where do I find the blasted thing? Isn't there a driver on the Fedora 15 DV