Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-13 Thread Roger
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-October/441664.html Bill got it Sooo right. No set of instructions is all inclusive because they are written by experts who have forgotten or neglected the little gotchas experienced as they learned. A recent example. Installing postgresql o

Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-12 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 13 Oct 2013 at 16:45, Tim wrote: Subject:Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions". From: Tim To: Community support for Fedora users Date sent: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 16:45:36 +1030 Send reply to:

Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-12 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:40 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > As a graduate student, I was required to teach. It took a number of > years to figure it out, but I did figure out why I was a lousy > teacher. Everything I did in class reflected the attitude "It's > perfectly clear to me; what the f***'s w

Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-12 Thread staticsafe
On 10/12/2013 18:18, Roger wrote: Apologies for top post but what is the url for Bills essay please? Roger https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-October/441664.html -- staticsafe O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. It is not log

Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-12 Thread Roger
Apologies for top post but what is the url for Bills essay please? Roger On 10/11/2013 05:10 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: I am referring to Bill Oliver's essay that appeared under the "Fedora = "the darker side of the Internet?"" thread, just recently. I just wanted to say how wonderfully well-expres

Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-12 Thread Rolf Turner
On 10/13/13 03:40, Steven Stern wrote: Rolf: Thanks for pointing out Bill's message. It's something everyone should read. As a graduate student, I was required to teach. It took a number of years to figure it out, but I did figure out why I was a lousy teacher. Everything I did in clas

Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:10:18 +1300 Rolf Turner wrote: I have > no patience with those on this list who slang off at Harald. You may need some, they are most probably exacerbated, but not as used to writing up reports as Bill. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users

Re: Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-12 Thread Steven Stern
On 10/11/2013 05:10 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > > I am referring to Bill Oliver's essay that appeared under the "Fedora = > "the darker > side of the Internet?"" thread, just recently. > > I just wanted to say how wonderfully well-expressed this essay was. It > is widely > applicable and should be

Bill Oliver's essay on "just follow instructions".

2013-10-11 Thread Rolf Turner
I am referring to Bill Oliver's essay that appeared under the "Fedora = "the darker side of the Internet?"" thread, just recently. I just wanted to say how wonderfully well-expressed this essay was. It is widely applicable and should be required reading for "gurus" in ever-so-many areas. (T