Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

2014-04-29 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 02:33:07PM -0700, Lee wrote: >Just wondering, what is the interface you use to install the drivers, >whether they're from Brother or the operating system? CUPS? Use the program whose URL I gave below to install the drivers. Once drivers are installed, use the stand

Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

2014-04-29 Thread Lee
Just wondering, what is the interface you use to install the drivers, whether they're from Brother or the operating system? CUPS? On Apr 29, 2014 6:01 AM, "Fred Smith" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 08:06:57PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > > | From: Lee > > > > | Just wondering, do all Br

Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

2014-04-29 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 08:06:57PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > | From: Lee > > | Just wondering, do all Brother printers ship with Linux drivers? > > No. Many don't need proprietary drivers. Some have proprietary > drivers. I would guess some don't have Linux drivers at all. > > As us

Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

2014-04-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Lee | Just wondering, do all Brother printers ship with Linux drivers? No. Many don't need proprietary drivers. Some have proprietary drivers. I would guess some don't have Linux drivers at all. As usual, one good resource is

Re: Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

2014-04-28 Thread Lee
Just wondering, do all Brother printers ship with Linux drivers? On Apr 28, 2014 11:07 AM, "D. Hugh Redelmeier" wrote: > | From: Fred Smith > > | I'm using a Brother DCP7065DN at home, and it seems to work well with > | Linux, BUT you have to use Brother's drivers for it. The driver > recommende

Brother DCP7065dn laser printer on Fedora 20 [was Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation]

2014-04-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Fred Smith | I'm using a Brother DCP7065DN at home, and it seems to work well with | Linux, BUT you have to use Brother's drivers for it. The driver recommended | by the RH printer tool didn't work for me. | | I've printed to it from Centos 6.5, Fedora 19, and Fedora 20, so far. | I've u

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-18 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-03-16 04:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 05:03 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Not so easy in fact. Most manufacturers make you select 2 out of {laser, all-in-one, wireless} at least in a reasonable p

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-18 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-03-15 07:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.) The Samsung Xpress M2070W looks like a

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-17 Thread Doug
On 03/17/2014 10:02 AM, Tim wrote: Tim: Sodding printers, designed by bastards incorporated. g: i was told many years ago that short stack was because of problems of feeding sheets from a large stack. Wasn't a problem for our high speed photostat machine (back when they were called that, rat

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-17 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Sodding printers, designed by bastards incorporated. g: > i was told many years ago that short stack was because of problems > of feeding sheets from a large stack. Wasn't a problem for our high speed photostat machine (back when they were called that, rather than photocopier). Trying to

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 00:44 +0600, g wrote: > > I wouldn't be all that surprised. While I don't know how much the > > finest champagne would cost, I dare say that the good stuff doesn't > cost > > $50 for 20mL, as some inkjet cartridges do. > > next in line in these parts is bottled water costing

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread g
On 03/16/14 20:32, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Fred Erickson sent: The paper tray only holds about a 1/2in or so of paper and it prints rather slowly. That's something that really annoys me. Even many of the big office printers only let you put in an inch worth of paper

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread g
On 03/16/14 20:26, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: Urban legend is that inkjet cartridges cost more per litre than the finest champagne. I wouldn't be all that surprised. While I don't know how much the finest champagne would cost, I dare say that

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread g
On 03/15/14 22:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:32 +0600, g wrote: <<>> But take up at least twice the space and need another power socket. If I was scanning every day I would consider it, but it's only for very occasional use. granted, you will pay more for individu

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/16/2014 09:25 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Steven Stern sent: >> The first thing to do with an inkjet printer is to find every place a >> default is set in the drivers and specific programs you use to print >> and set them to use fast draft mode. > > And then you g

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 16 March 2014, D. Hugh Redelmeier sent: > 4. With a network printer, you want all your computers to have > drivers. In our household, that's a lot of installation compared with > "let the distro do the work". And it gets repeated with every update > of the drivers and ever

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Fred Erickson sent: > The paper tray only holds about a 1/2in or so of paper and it prints > rather slowly. That's something that really annoys me. Even many of the big office printers only let you put in an inch worth of paper. What do offices buy A4 paper

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > Urban legend is that inkjet cartridges cost more per litre than the > finest champagne. I wouldn't be all that surprised. While I don't know how much the finest champagne would cost, I dare say that the good stuff doesn't cost $50

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Steven Stern sent: > The first thing to do with an inkjet printer is to find every place a > default is set in the drivers and specific programs you use to print > and set them to use fast draft mode. And then you get incredibly crap printouts. Worse than my

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Paul Cartwright wrote: > I only have a Samsung CLP-315W color laser printer, but the Samsung > Smartpanel, and the Samsung Unified driver both installed & worked > perfectly with fedora 20.. I just moved from Debian, so I wasn't even > sure it would work. I am so happy!! > I would totally recomme

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:18:02 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Not so easy in fact. Most manufacturers make you select 2 out of {laser, > all-in-one, wireless} at least in a reasonable price range. Looks like a > marketing opportunity to me. Yea, an opportunity to market stand alone monochrome l

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 05:03 +, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use > > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print and > > scan functions m

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:55 -0800, Fred Erickson wrote: > I have the HP Laser Jet Pro CM1415fnw Color MFP. This machine works > fine for me for home/small office use but would not be suitable for an > office where several people would use it. The paper tray only holds > about a 1/2in or so of paper

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 15:33 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 03/15/2014 09:45 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use > > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print > > and scan functions must be supported

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/15/2014 11:57 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: 4. With a network printer, you want all your computers to have drivers. In our household, that's a lot of installation compared with "let the distro do the work". And it gets repeated with every update of the drivers and every version of the di

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Juan R. de Silva | Yes, you need to use Brother's drivers for it. | But what's the problem with it, if they are always available and easy to | install? 1. At some point, Brother will stop supporting the printer. The printer may still be otherwise useful. I've had that happen with a

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print and > scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.) > > The Samsung Xp

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Patrick O'Callaghan | > i never have and never will recommend any 'all-in-one'. They have their place (and sometimes it is hard to find a place for all the bits it would replace). (I have the Brother DCP-7065dn mentioned earlier.) Likes: - I really like duplex printers. - really inex

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/15/2014 10:15 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: >> I used to own a Photosmart and it worked fine but I found that despite >> never printing in colour I would still have to replace colour >> cartridges all the time. Clearly a scam IMHO, which is w

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Fred Erickson
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 16:20:26 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:48 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to > > recommend? > > > > HP doesn't advertise it, but pretty much all the HP all-in-one > > devices have good lin

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/15/2014 09:45 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print > and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.) > > The Samsung Xpress M2070W lo

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:32 +0600, g wrote: > > On 03/15/14 19:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use > > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print > > and scan functions must be supported with standard t

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread g
On 03/15/14 19:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.) The Samsung Xpress M2070W looks like a

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 01:45 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > I used to own a Photosmart and it worked fine but I found that despite > > never printing in colour I would still have to replace colour > > cartridges all the time. Clearly a scam IM

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 10:52 -0400, Fred Smith wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 01:45:31PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use > > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print > > and scan functions must

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:48 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to > recommend? > > HP doesn't advertise it, but pretty much all the HP all-in-one > devices have good linux support (though I'm not sure if HP makes > any laser all-in-one boxes, th

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to recommend? HP doesn't advertise it, but pretty much all the HP all-in-one devices have good linux support (though I'm not sure if HP makes any laser all-in-one boxes, they

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 15 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > I used to own a Photosmart and it worked fine but I found that despite > never printing in colour I would still have to replace colour > cartridges all the time. Clearly a scam IMHO, which is why I decided > to switch. I used to ha

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Saturday 15 Mar 2014 14:38:19 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 14:02 +, Richard Ibbotson wrote: > > I use a Samsung ML-1510 laser printer and a Hewlett-Packard > > Photosmart 5224 all in one. Works for me. You can get these HP > > printers second hand from eBay at sensibl

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 01:45:31PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use > under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print > and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.) > > The Samsun

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 15:21 +0100, fedora wrote: > I lately bought a Samsung CLX 3305. This is a color laser printer, > scanner, copier. I donloaded the corresponding driver from Samsung, > and > all is working like a charm, including scanning via xsane. > My CLX 3305, however, is not on the LAN

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 14:02 +, Richard Ibbotson wrote: > On Saturday 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The Samsung Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm > > unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of > > opinions. > > > > Anyone have one of

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread fedora
Hi Patrick I lately bought a Samsung CLX 3305. This is a color laser printer, scanner, copier. I donloaded the corresponding driver from Samsung, and all is working like a charm, including scanning via xsane. My CLX 3305, however, is not on the LAN but on USB at a workstation. And it is not a f

Re: All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Saturday 15 Mar 2014 13:45:31 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The Samsung Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm > unsure about Linux support. Google seems to show a variety of > opinions. > > Anyone have one of these beasties, or have an alternative to > recommend? I use a Samsung

All-in-one laser printer recommendation

2014-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I'm on the lookout for a reliable all-in-one mono laser printer to use under Fedora. Must be networked, preferably wireless, and both print and scan functions must be supported with standard tools (CUPS etc.) The Samsung Xpress M2070W looks like a good all-rounder but I'm unsure about Linux suppo