Xfce and Fedora40 for ARM

2024-04-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I noticed this over on Xfce's Fedora 40 download page: https://fedoraproject.org/spins/xfce/download Seems they have a ARM version. https://imgur.com/inUFui5.png Any computers/tablets for that to go on? -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditi

ARM and Xfce ???

2023-11-11 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I noticed over on https://fedoraproject.org/spins/xfce/download That there is an ARM spin for XFce posted. Now all I need is a tablet to go with it. Anyone know of one(s) what work well with Fedora and Xfce ARM? Many thanks, -T ___ users

Re: ARM

2023-08-28 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Den tis 29 aug. 2023 kl 07:35 skrev ToddAndMargo via users : Hi All, You guys give me the link to the current Fedora ARM project. And I lost it. Would you mind giving it to me again? Many thanks, -T On 8/28/23 23:06, Luna Jernberg wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/

Re: ARM

2023-08-28 Thread Luna Jernberg
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM Den tis 29 aug. 2023 kl 07:35 skrev ToddAndMargo via users : > > Hi All, > > You guys give me the link to the current > Fedora ARM project. And I lost it. > > Would you mind giving it to me again?

ARM

2023-08-28 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, You guys give me the link to the current Fedora ARM project. And I lost it. Would you mind giving it to me again? Many thanks, -T -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that

Re: Fedora Arm web page?

2023-06-28 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 6/28/23 18:34, olivares33561 via users wrote: Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, June 28th, 2023 at 3:20 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Is there a Fedora ARM web

Re: Fedora Arm web page?

2023-06-28 Thread olivares33561 via users
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, June 28th, 2023 at 3:20 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a Fedora ARM web page out there > somewhere that up

Fedora Arm web page?

2023-06-28 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Is there a Fedora ARM web page out there somewhere that updates you on the status of the project? FAQ's, etc. Many thanks, -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open wi

Re: Missing "standard" headers in FC37 arm (aarch64) C/C++ cross-compiler RPMs ??

2023-06-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 4:30 PM ron flory via users wrote: > > Hi- am hopefully missing something dumb/obvious here--- > > Am trying to cross-compile for raspberry-pi, but some basic headers appear > to be missing, or not redirecting to 'generics'. > > - > Install the cross-compiler(s): >

Re: Missing "standard" headers in FC37 arm (aarch64) C/C++ cross-compiler RPMs ??

2023-06-04 Thread Barry
> On 4 Jun 2023, at 21:48, Ron Flory via users > wrote: > > If another noarch or arm header-only RPM happens to contain the missing > headers (which I have not stumbled upon yet), it would be helpful for this to > be marked a co-dependency so dnf can install it too. I

Re: Missing "standard" headers in FC37 arm (aarch64) C/C++ cross-compiler RPMs ??

2023-06-04 Thread Ron Flory via users
  binutils-aarch64-linux-gnu  ...the binutils is automatically installed as a dependency (similar deal for the "gcc-arm-linux" sibling). The (very few) related headers are installed in /usr/lib/gcc/aarch64-linux-gnu/12/include/ as confirmed by 1)   dnf repoquery -l gcc-aarch64-linux-gn

Re: Missing "standard" headers in FC37 arm (aarch64) C/C++ cross-compiler RPMs ??

2023-06-03 Thread Barry
> On 1 Jun 2023, at 21:30, ron flory via users > wrote: > > Install the cross-compiler(s): >dnf install gcc-aarch64-linux-gnu gcc-c++-aarch64-linux-gnu I am not near my fedora to check, but are there more packages with the CRTL devel stuff? Maybe the output pf this will help? dnf sear

Re: Missing "standard" headers in FC37 arm (aarch64) C/C++ cross-compiler RPMs ??

2023-06-03 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 01 Jun 2023 20:29:54 - ron flory via users wrote: > Results: > hello_world.c:1:10: fatal error: stdio.h: No such file or directory > 1 | #include > | ^ > compilation terminated. > > - > Hello_world sample consists of: > > #include > #include > > in

Missing "standard" headers in FC37 arm (aarch64) C/C++ cross-compiler RPMs ??

2023-06-01 Thread ron flory via users
Hi- am hopefully missing something dumb/obvious here--- Am trying to cross-compile for raspberry-pi, but some basic headers appear to be missing, or not redirecting to 'generics'. - Install the cross-compiler(s): dnf install gcc-aarch64-linux-gnu gcc-c++-aarch64-linux-gnu - Compi

Re: ARM?

2023-05-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/7/23 20:35, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Any of yo guys have experience with Fedora running on an AM processor? I was thinking of running it on this: https://pine64.com/product/pinetab2-10-1-8gb-128gb-linux-tablet-with-detached-backlit-keyboard/ It would need a decent touchscree

Re: ARM?

2023-05-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
. The preinstalled OS is still in beta – most core functionality works but some features (e.g. cameras) remain a work-in-progress. Be sure you know what you are getting into. Jeff I wanted to scratch the DanctNix and install Fedora. The questoin was about Fedora on ARM

Re: ARM?

2023-05-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 11:36 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > Any of yo guys have experience with Fedora > running on an AM processor? > > I was thinking of running it on this: > > https://pine64.com/product/pinetab2-10-1-8gb-128gb-linux-tablet-with-detached-backlit-keyboard/ I have a Pineboo

ARM?

2023-05-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Any of yo guys have experience with Fedora running on an AM processor? I was thinking of running it on this: https://pine64.com/product/pinetab2-10-1-8gb-128gb-linux-tablet-with-detached-backlit-keyboard/ It would need a decent touchscreen driver. -T __

Re: How to run Fedora ARM raw image running on qemu emulator ?

2022-09-25 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 1:30 PM Cătălin George Feștilă < myth...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I want to run on qemu a raw Fedora ARM image from the official website. > Can you tell me how I can do this? > This is for Ubuntu so everything might not translate 1:1, but it does show

How to run Fedora ARM raw image running on qemu emulator ?

2022-09-24 Thread Cătălin George Feștilă
I want to run on qemu a raw Fedora ARM image from the official website. Can you tell me how I can do this? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: Build an arm static executable on Fedora

2022-03-15 Thread home user
On 3/15/22 3:48 PM, Cătălin George Feștilă wrote: I try to create a hello word arm static executable, with the default example but I got these errors. I search on the web and fedora packages to find a way to solve this issue. I used a basic example source code: cat hello.cpp #include using

Re: Build an arm static executable on Fedora

2022-03-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2022-03-15 at 21:47 +, Cătălin George Feștilă wrote: > I try to create a hello word arm static executable, with the default > example but I got > these errors. > I search on the web and fedora packages to find a way to solve this > issue. > I used a basic example sou

Re: Build an arm static executable on Fedora

2022-03-15 Thread Barry
> On 15 Mar 2022, at 21:49, Cătălin George Feștilă > wrote: > > I try to create a hello word arm static executable, with the default example > but I got > these errors. Please show the commands you use to build the exe, also the errors are missing. Are you building on a

Build an arm static executable on Fedora

2022-03-15 Thread Cătălin George Feștilă
I try to create a hello word arm static executable, with the default example but I got these errors. I search on the web and fedora packages to find a way to solve this issue. I used a basic example source code: cat hello.cpp #include using namespace std; int main(void) { std::cout <<

Build an arm static executable on Fedora

2022-03-15 Thread Cătălin George Feștilă
I try to create a hello word arm static executable, with the default example but I got these errors. I search on the web and fedora packages to find a way to solve this issue. I used a basic example source code: cat hello.cpp #include using namespace std; int main(void) { std::cout <<

Re: [fedora-arm] Re: Error: failed to find VPN plugin for ovpn.

2020-08-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Peter Robinson writes: > > After successfully testing an OpenVPN link on a x86_64, I get the following > > error on aarch64, as root: > > > > # nmcli connection import type ovpn file .ovpn > > Error: failed to find VPN plugin for ovpn. > > So having tried that same command with a openvpn profi

Re: vcgencmd missing in Fedora 29 arm

2019-02-06 Thread Simone Marchioni
Thank you all for the answers! :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedo

Re: vcgencmd missing in Fedora 29 arm

2019-02-05 Thread Ted Roche
x27;m new both in the ARM and Raspberri Pi world. > > Managed to install Fedora 29 Server on a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ with an > USB SSD. > The system works flawlessly but I can't find vcgencmd and relative > commands to manage the hardware of the RPI. > Looked for an RPM pac

Re: vcgencmd missing in Fedora 29 arm

2019-02-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/5/19 11:44 AM, Ulf Volmer wrote: On 05.02.19 20:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2/5/19 9:43 AM, Simone Marchioni wrote: Is there a package with tools to manage HW? Temperature, CPU Frequency, and so on. Or is better to replace vcgencmd with something else? That information and control should

Re: vcgencmd missing in Fedora 29 arm

2019-02-05 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 05.02.19 20:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2/5/19 9:43 AM, Simone Marchioni wrote: >> Is there a package with tools to manage HW? Temperature, CPU >> Frequency, and so on. Or is better to replace vcgencmd with something >> else? > > That information and control should be available through /sys, b

Re: vcgencmd missing in Fedora 29 arm

2019-02-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2/5/19 9:43 AM, Simone Marchioni wrote: Managed to install Fedora 29 Server on a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ with an USB SSD. The system works flawlessly but I can't find vcgencmd and relative commands to manage the hardware of the RPI. Looked for an RPM package but I can't find nothing. That

vcgencmd missing in Fedora 29 arm

2019-02-05 Thread Simone Marchioni
Hi to all, I'm new both in the ARM and Raspberri Pi world. Managed to install Fedora 29 Server on a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ with an USB SSD. The system works flawlessly but I can't find vcgencmd and relative commands to manage the hardware of the RPI. Looked for an RPM package but I

Re: [fedora-arm] Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

2018-11-15 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 15 November 2018, Doug sent: > I realize that this is off-topic, but it sounds like you are an > expert on modern TV equipment, so I have this question: I work in video production, and I occasionally service such equipment. > I have a Samsung 24" HDTV (1920 x 1080) purchase

Re: [fedora-arm] Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

2018-11-15 Thread Doug
On 11/15/2018 03:00 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/15/2018 11:05 AM, Tim via users wrote: Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2018, Jiri Vanek sent: Yes. I tried four cables. Each of them on both TVs. Each behaved same for me. *however* factr that I had tried several different cables, does not mean I u

Re: [fedora-arm] Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

2018-11-15 Thread Doug
On 11/15/2018 03:00 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/15/2018 11:05 AM, Tim via users wrote: Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2018, Jiri Vanek sent: Yes. I tried four cables. Each of them on both TVs. Each behaved same for me. *however* factr that I had tried several different cables, does not mean I u

Re: [fedora-arm] Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

2018-11-15 Thread Doug
On 11/15/2018 11:05 AM, Tim via users wrote: Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2018, Jiri Vanek sent: Yes. I tried four cables. Each of them on both TVs. Each behaved same for me. *however* factr that I had tried several different cables, does not mean I used different type of cable. they are

Re: [fedora-arm] Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

2018-11-15 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2018, Jiri Vanek sent: > Yes. I tried four cables. Each of them on both TVs. Each behaved same > for me. *however* factr that I had tried several different cables, > does not mean I used different type of cable. they are very > likely from same shop in my neighb

Re: [fedora-arm] Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

2018-11-12 Thread Jiri Vanek
baord, and next >> udpate break networking. So >> I turned back. >>> >>> Have you tried updating your system from the repositories since install? >>> >>> Here is an older version of alsa you can try. There were two updates >>> of a

Re: [fedora-arm] no hdmi audio on older tv

2018-11-01 Thread Jiri Vanek
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Re: [fedora-arm] no hdmi audio on older tv

2018-11-01 Thread Jiri Vanek
' >> + value >> '1700671200014c2d9d0253414d53554e470907070000000

Re: Problem: Cross compile to arm (Raspberry pi) using autotools

2017-10-07 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 03:03:32PM +0200, Dirk Gottschalk wrote: > Hello Ralf. > > Am Samstag, den 07.10.2017, 14:43 +0200 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > > On 10/07/2017 01:49 PM, Dirk Gottschalk wrote: > > Try > > touch tmp.c > > arm-linux-gnu-gcc -v tmp.c >

Re: Problem: Cross compile to arm (Raspberry pi) using autotools

2017-10-07 Thread Dirk Gottschalk
Hello Ralf. Am Samstag, den 07.10.2017, 14:43 +0200 schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > On 10/07/2017 01:49 PM, Dirk Gottschalk wrote: > Try > touch tmp.c > arm-linux-gnu-gcc -v tmp.c > and check the search paths being reported. Thank you, this did the trick. The shown Path are wrong, or th

Re: Problem: Cross compile to arm (Raspberry pi) using autotools

2017-10-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/07/2017 01:49 PM, Dirk Gottschalk wrote: Hello, I have a problem cross compiling using autotools for my Raspberry Pi 3. I wrote a server program which runs good with Linux and under windows (compiled with MinGW) on my X86_64 machine. Since there is no configure wrapper for ARM like

Problem: Cross compile to arm (Raspberry pi) using autotools

2017-10-07 Thread Dirk Gottschalk
Hello, I have a problem cross compiling using autotools for my Raspberry Pi 3. I wrote a server program which runs good with Linux and under windows (compiled with MinGW) on my X86_64 machine. Since there is no configure wrapper for ARM like MinGW has, i use the following configure call

fedora-arm-intaller in F22?

2015-07-24 Thread Derrik Walker v2.0
This is odd ... and I might be missing something stupid, but ... I am trying to build an sd card for my raspberry pi using rather nice *python* program that I've used for YEARS ... It's acting weird ... and something clearly doesn't seem right ... # rpm -q fedora-arm-insta

Re: wlan0 not working - F20 arm

2014-07-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 07/23/2014 10:40 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 10:22:39 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: # ifconfig wlan0 Are you sure that isn't just a leftover ifcfg file named wlan0? Other than when the dongle is not plugged in, there is no entry for wlan in ifconfig. On my f20 box, wh

Re: wlan0 not working - F20 arm

2014-07-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 10:22:39 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > # ifconfig wlan0 Are you sure that isn't just a leftover ifcfg file named wlan0? On my f20 box, when I plug in a wireless dongle I get some really helpful name like wlp0s29u1u2 (and to be even more helpful, the name changes if I move t

wlan0 not working - F20 arm

2014-07-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have this old Trendnet usb 802.11bg adapter plugged into my server. It is not showing in Network manager (see prior message) so I am trying via command lines: # ifconfig wlan0 up # iwlist wlan0 scan wlan0 No scan results Don't tell me that, my notebook is connected wirelessly and I can

NetworkManager not running? F20 arm xfce

2014-07-23 Thread Robert Moskowitz
In my vnc connection to my server, the xfce system bar's network manager tells me: Networking disabled (when I place the mouse over the network icon) Network Manager not running (when I click on the network icon, and this text is grey) Yet in my ssh session to the server: # systemctl status

Installing fedora on an arm chromebook (the old one)

2014-06-26 Thread Rafael Espíndola
I had in the past followed the instructions in https://www.berrange.com/posts/2013/03/31/automated-install-of-fedora-18-arm-on-a-samsung-google-chromebook/ But I wanted to try to install fedora 20 and have a a simpler partition layout. In the process I found out a bit on how the system works. I

5tFTw: Board Meeting, Rawhide Rebuilt, Firewall Debate, ARM 64, and DNF as Yum Replacement, plus RHEL7 Bonus Item (2014-06-10)

2014-06-12 Thread Matthew Miller
ess to GNOME’s “sharing” controls. * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/198041.html * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2014-June/009862.html Update on 64-bit ARM and

Re: Fedora ARM is gone

2014-02-26 Thread poma
To correct the 'file' output, instead $ file -b * RPM v3.0 bin noarch kdenetwork-devel-7:4.12.2-1.fc20 RPM v3.0 bin ARM mdds-devel-0.10.2-1.fc20 we can drive something like this, $ rpm -qp --qf "RPM v%{RPMVERSION} %{ARCH}\ %{NAME}-%{VERSION}.%{RELEASE}\n" * RPM v4.11.1 noa

Re: Fedora ARM is so strong

2014-02-26 Thread poma
On 26.02.2014 08:50, Jan Kaluža wrote: > On 02/26/2014 03:08 AM, poma wrote: >> On 24.02.2014 23:52, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 02/25/14 01:02, poma wrote: >>>> $ file * >>>> autocorr-en-4.2.1.1-1.fc20.noarch.rpm: RPM v3.0 bin ARM >>&g

Re: Fedora ARM is so strong

2014-02-25 Thread poma
On 24.02.2014 23:52, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/25/14 01:02, poma wrote: >> $ file * >> autocorr-en-4.2.1.1-1.fc20.noarch.rpm: RPM v3.0 bin ARM >> autocorr-en-1:4.2.1.1-1.fc20 >> libcmis-0.4.1-2.fc20.x86_64.rpm:RPM v3.0 bin >

Re: FYI/FWIW: Jon Chiappetta's Fedora/ARM blog @ Wordpress suspended for TOS violation (WTF?)

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Tyler
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 02:35 -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:05 AM, sankarshan > wrote: > Contacting WP and, explaining that this may be an error > usually works. Jon's already trying to talk to Wordpress about it. He says the shutdown happened right af

Re: FYI/FWIW: Jon Chiappetta's Fedora/ARM blog @ Wordpress suspended for TOS violation (WTF?)

2013-06-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:05 AM, sankarshan wrote: > Contacting WP and, explaining that this may be an error usually works. All the links here http://en.support.wordpress.com/disputes/ Seem to be to report "bad guys". Nothing I can see to report UNFAIR shutdown of legit blogs. Bed time for me.

Re: FYI/FWIW: Jon Chiappetta's Fedora/ARM blog @ Wordpress suspended for TOS violation (WTF?)

2013-06-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:05 AM, sankarshan wrote: > Contacting WP and, explaining that this may be an error usually works. Thanks. Will try to find out the right contact venue for Wordpress complaints. As Jon's blog was in Planet Fedora's blogroll, I thought you guys might want to know. FC -

Re: FYI/FWIW: Jon Chiappetta's Fedora/ARM blog @ Wordpress suspended for TOS violation (WTF?)

2013-06-19 Thread sankarshan
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > It currently displays: > "fossjon.wordpress.com is no longer available. > > This blog has been archived or suspended for a violation of our Terms of > Service. > For more information and to contact us please read this support document." C

FYI/FWIW: Jon Chiappetta's Fedora/ARM blog @ Wordpress suspended for TOS violation (WTF?)

2013-06-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
Sorry to post it here, it would be more appropiate on the Fedora/ARM list, but since Fedora is Fedora is Fedora, I'm posting it here. ;-) Any idea as to why Wordpress might have decided to suspect Jon Chiappetta's blog where he posted about Fedora/ARM among other FOSS things? The bl

Re: Secure Boot UEFI (ARM)

2012-06-04 Thread Thibault Nélis
Coreboot / TianoCore is indeed the way to go. Presentation from earlier this year (just Coreboot), for the interested: http://video.fosdem.org/2012/maintracks/janson/Coreboot.webm -- t -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Secure Boot UEFI (ARM)

2012-06-03 Thread x414e54
We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no farther! http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapr

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-29 Thread Andras Simon
On 3/29/11, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Andras Simon wrote: >> Have you checked the financial health of Novell and Red Hat recently? >> I'm not sure Red Hat would like to be anywhere near where Novell is... > > Andras, you must have reading problems. I was citing Nov

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Novell has a sever OS lead, Sorry I meant "had". FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproje

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Andras Simon wrote: > Have you checked the financial health of Novell and Red Hat recently? > I'm not sure Red Hat would like to be anywhere near where Novell is... Andras, you must have reading problems. I was citing Novell not as an example of what to do, quite

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-29 Thread Andras Simon
On 3/29/11, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Andras Simon wrote: >> Or not. People who make decisions in IT departments on which OS to run >> on their servers are hopefully not basing those decisions on who's >> supplying the OS for their gadgets. > > Exactly, that must b

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > Or not. People who make decisions in IT departments on which OS to run > on their servers are hopefully not basing those decisions on who's > supplying the OS for their gadgets. Exactly, that must be why Novell never lost any market share and

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Andras Simon
On 3/28/11, Fernando Cassia wrote: > In which way can porting Fedora/RH to run on tables contributes to > MAKING A LOSS or NOT generating a profit?. By having to pay people, infrastructure, whatever. > In fact, having people talk about your brand/name creates mindshare, > and thus indirectly bo

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
nything I want. In fact, I can theorize and contribute my thoughts on what I _think_ Fedora and Red Hat could do do boost mind share. People *talking* and telling others to *do instead of talk* do not contribute to the debate. On the contrary, silences debate. > The Debian ARM port to one of the

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:36:40 -0600 Linuxguy123 wrote: > Ubuntu does ARM right now. > > Ubuntu has a netbook version. > > Ubuntu has Unity. > > http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/why-ubuntu/products > > If Redhat isn't going to cater

Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123
Ubuntu does ARM right now. Ubuntu has a netbook version. Ubuntu has Unity. http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/why-ubuntu/products If Redhat isn't going to cater to this market, I have a feeling someone else will. Its great that Redhat focuses on its markets,

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/28/2011 11:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> The only people who can realistically target tablets are the ones with >> commercial backing and a business plan. It is not a market where a >> volunteer community can easily thrive in. It

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/28/2011 11:28 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 14:35 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just >>> wanting someone with a bit of

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > The only people who can realistically target tablets are the ones with > commercial backing and a business plan.  It is not a market where a > volunteer community can easily thrive in.  It requires custom built > kernels,  patching all over

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/28/2011 11:05 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just >> wanting someone with a bit of spare money (quite a bit, really) to >> start making hardware

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 14:35 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > > Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just > > wanting someone with a bit of spare money (quite a bit, really) to > > start makin

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:15:51 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > Well... given the demise of Meego, more or less, and the pending demise > of Symbian and the fact that Nokia just signed a deal with the software > devil to use Windows on their handsets, I think there is a huge > opportunity for Re

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just > wanting someone with a bit of spare money (quite a bit, really) to > start making hardware with Fedora pre-installed. Not exactly. Re-read what I said. Fedo

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I think there is a huge > opportunity for Redhat to go after the mobile device market.  Just look > at the success of Android.   A lot of players in the mobile market would > love to partner with someone other than Google. I think you will fi

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Alan Cox
ile device market. Just look > at the success of Android. A lot of players in the mobile market would > love to partner with someone other than Google. So you've got a business plan - you know what to do. Seriously if you want ARM tablet support in Fedora build a Fedora for ARM tab

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 15:20 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > What is the commercial reason to do this then? I understand what -you- > want - but redhat needs to have a business reason to leverage this - > like RHEL derives from fedora ... > > Unless there's a rational business plan it makes no se

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Joel Rees
st like not everything Microsoft > does generates a profit inmediately, but has the long-term goal of > having people talk about the brand and the windows software ecosystem. > > Specially if the required investment is relatively minuscule, compared > to the firm´s overall R+D budget.

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
the windows software ecosystem. Specially if the required investment is relatively minuscule, compared to the firm´s overall R+D budget. I´m not talking about porting Fedora to ARM. That´s been already done, so the work would be mostly packaging and buying one of each of these popular tablets

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/25/2011 02:26 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > It doesn´t have to be a commercial product, because if it becomes one > it´ll be immediately subject to the press and the pundits labeling it > a "failure" or compare it to the established Andro

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
ding it and reflashing the OS on popular tablets (Samsung´s Galaxy Tab, the HP TouchPad, or the RIM´s Playbook), and replace it with "Fedora Tablet Edition". "As is" of course. If one day the project becomes good enough, then surely tablet makers will select it for pre-install

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-25 Thread Linuxguy123
r I have > seen many things, including Motorola's Atrix, and the MoDu (modular > phone leading by an engineer from Sandisk), and even low power > consuming modular ARM based servers, I don't understand why don't > have Red Hat support to MIPS, ARM platforms. >

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-25 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
ular phone leading by an engineer from Sandisk), and even low power consuming modular ARM based servers, I don't understand why don't have Red Hat support to MIPS, ARM platforms. The most of the new generation phones are mostly becoming an tiny universal server (with multiple cores) in the

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-24 Thread Linuxguy123
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 19:55 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I really, really would like to see RedHat putting some effort into > seeing Fedora running on modern tablets... +1 on this. Especially now that I have lost all confidence in Meego and Google seems to share less and less of Android. --

Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-24 Thread Fernando Cassia
be comfortable with QNX The CPU is confirmed to be a dual-core TI ARM. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Blackberry-PlayBook-CPU-Confirmed-1GHz-Dual-core-TI-OMAP4430-177205.shtml So what are the chances of RIM making it easy to replace the OS with Fedora/ARM? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/

Re: Gnome 3 mobile on ARM with Fedora base?

2011-02-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 02/26/2011 12:14 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Hi guys, > > Is it possible to have an ARM minimal as the Fedora-mini ks? > > I would like to have gnome 3 mobile if will released... and the > another question: What kind of hardware could be enough for this? GNOME Mobile is not

Re: Gnome 3 mobile on ARM with Fedora base?

2011-02-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 02/26/2011 12:14 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Hi guys, > > Is it possible to have an ARM minimal as the Fedora-mini ks? > > I would like to have gnome 3 mobile if will released... and the > another question: What kind of hardware could be enough for this? GNOME Mobile is not

Gnome 3 mobile on ARM with Fedora base?

2011-02-25 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Hi guys, Is it possible to have an ARM minimal as the Fedora-mini ks? I would like to have gnome 3 mobile if will released... and the another question: What kind of hardware could be enough for this? Zoltan -- PGP:  06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe