Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

2011-06-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/15/2011 08:23 PM, Tim wrote: > Not everything will fit on the DVD, so you install extras, afterwards. > > Gnome reckons you don't need to configure it to death, so many things > are preset, and customisation requires fiddling under the hood. > I suspect that these two are the main reasons.

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

2011-06-15 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 15:18 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I don't want to start Yet Another Flame War, Yet, he asks the question that's gonna do it... ;-) > but does anybody know how or why such seemingly-obvious tools were > left out? Was it just a case of "so many programs, so little time?" Hasn'

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

2011-06-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/15/2011 03:02 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > You are not missing anything, gnome 3 is missing a lot of things! > Certainly proper configuration tools. And proper documentation to > explain the 'inner workings'. I don't want to start Yet Another Flame War, but does anybody know how or why s

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

2011-06-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:37:24 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote: > Only a very minimal set of keys can be displayed to be manipulated in > dconf-editor. The ones that gconf-editor shows that actually control > things like mice and windows focus I can not find in dconf-editor. Yea, things definitely appear

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

2011-06-15 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 04:37:24PM -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Now I am really confused. Both gconf-editor and dconf-editor come up > with the alias Configuration Editor, so I assume only one of them can > show up in the menu of applications. dconf-editor does not show up even > if gconf is not

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

2011-06-15 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 20:03 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/15/2011 05:14 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > But first don't you mean gconf-editor rather than dconf-editor? The > > latter when installed does not show up in the menus of Gnome3 and seems > > to me rather obscure to use. At least I can

Re: A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

2011-06-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/15/2011 05:14 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > But first don't you mean gconf-editor rather than dconf-editor? The > latter when installed does not show up in the menus of Gnome3 and seems > to me rather obscure to use. At least I can't figure out how to use it. dconf / gsettings is the replacemen

A clarification of Fedora philosophy.

2011-06-15 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 19:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/14/2011 06:53 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Ok , I accept your point. Then why is gnome-tweak-tool not included by > > default? One needs this program too configure Gnome 3 > > It is not part of default GNOME. It is a extra (essenti