Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-11-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Kevin Fenzi writes: > We don't currently have any ARC setup. Well, I can't promise it will have great effect, although I know from the design and implementation discussions that Google takes it seriously, and Microsoft implements it. So it's just a suggestion for "your copious free time". >

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-11-01 Thread Slade Watkins via users
On 11/1/22 5:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > We don't currently have any ARC setup. > > When / if we can get the list processor upgraded, I think newer versions > of mailman3 have native ARC support, and we could look at enabling that. > I think so, yeah. 100% worth looking at when/if upgraded. -

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-11-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 03:50:07PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Kevin Fenzi writes: > > > I can't force the list to do this. Your domain would need to enable > > DMARC and set reject or quarantine > > Pretty sure it's not "his" domain. I believe GMX is a major internet > provider (and e

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-11-01 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 04:42:14PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 12:18:43AM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Kevin, Thanks for your quick response! [ ... ] I have already tried this, so I guess let me know when/if you get the bounce. ;) (ie, I have unsubscribed the user who

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Kevin Fenzi writes: > I can't force the list to do this. Your domain would need to enable > DMARC and set reject or quarantine Pretty sure it's not "his" domain. I believe GMX is a major internet provider (and email provider) in Germany, which already has an explicit DMARC policy of 'none' on

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 12:18:43AM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > Kevin, > Thanks for your quick response! > > TL;DR: > if you're suggesting that the > > "From: Wolfgang Pfeiffer " > > header in my future emails to this Fedora list should be replaced with > something along the line of this: >

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-31 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Kevin, Thanks for your quick response! TL;DR: if you're suggesting that the "From: Wolfgang Pfeiffer " header in my future emails to this Fedora list should be replaced with something along the line of this: "From: Wolfgang Pfeiffer via On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 08:57:28PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeif

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 08:57:28PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: ...snip... > > By now the list management - provided there is one - should know about > the problem. If they can't fix it I will by sending those DSNs to > /dev/null - or I just unsubscribe. > > Thanks a lot for your time - goes o

Fwd: [Undeliverable: [Not Resolved, sorry] Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]]

2022-10-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Wolfgang Pfeiffer writes: > Here we are again: because shortly after sending the message at the > very end of this forwarded message I got the message attached > below. > > One thing that y.antoniowat...@gmail.com (see below) I think y.antoniowatson is possibly a victim as well, because of

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-30 Thread Slade Watkins via users
On 10/30/22 3:57 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > no such -owner or similar addresses seem to be available in the > mail-headers sent to this list. I believe it's . -srw ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 04:08:00PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Oct 30, 2022, at 15:57, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 11:01:55PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: There are addresses specifically for that purpose. It is very frequently the case that list admins man

Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-30 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Oct 30, 2022, at 15:57, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 11:01:55PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> > So yes: this email is explicitly meant to be also read the Fedora list >> > administrators. >> >> There are addresses specifically for that purpose. It is very >> f

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 11:01:55PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: However, with respect to Wolfgang's posts, the official DMARC (RFC 7489) protocol is not involved here since gmx.net publishes a policy of "none", which means receivers should take no action merely on the basis of failure of Fr

Fwd: [Undeliverable: [Not Resolved, sorry] Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]]

2022-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
b2052.eurp189.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: References: <0983ea981dcbc4ab96b17d24342424d4892f5d92.ca...@yahoo.com.au> Subject: Undeliverable: [Resolved] Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse] Auto-Submitted: auto-replied X-MS-PublicTraffi

[Resolved] Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
More than 24 hours ago I sent the message below to this list without an error message as a follow-up being sent to me: Looks good, and I'd guess the problem's solved. Thanks a lot to everyone who helped fixing it. :) Wolfgang On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 03:01:52PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Wolfgang Pfeiffer writes: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 12:12:21PM +1030, Tim via users wrote: > >You''ll notice that my messages don't come from my address, but the > >list server has changed them to: > > > > Tim via users > > > >And I see the same for some other people. > > > >I think this

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-29 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 12:12:21PM +1030, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2022-10-27 at 23:09 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: 2: Does anyone understand what happened according to the message attached below from postmas...@outlook.com [ ... ] You''ll notice that my messages don't come from my

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-28 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2022-10-28 at 15:40 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > I use gmail for lists.  I'm still using Yahoo for lists. When I first started using mailing lists, yahoo was the biggest source of spam coming into them, so I figured they deserved to be the recipient. And they seem better at not fa

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-28 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 10:43 PM Tim via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > Gmail seems to have a problem with mailing lists. Heck knows why, it > ought to know how they work, by now. The problem being that when you > post through through the list, *it* is not an authorised sender

Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: This is the problem. The server either doesn't like the SPF policy or the received message fails the SPF policy. Maybe the mailing list admins will have to add gmx.net to the list of hidden senders. I run very stringent SPF checks, and to my knowledge I have no issues

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-10-27 at 23:09 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > 2: Does anyone understand what happened according to the message > attached below from postmas...@outlook.com I saw the message in question, it came through yesterday. My guess is that it's not your problem, but Gmail's. I've seen

Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/27/22 16:01, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 03:17:31PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: This is the problem.  The server either doesn't like the SPF policy or the received message fails the SPF policy.  Maybe the mailing list admins will have to add gmx.net to the list of hidden

Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 03:17:31PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/27/22 15:11, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Received: from pop.gmx.net [212.227.17.185] by aw17 with POP3 (fetchmail-6.4.31) for <[deleted local user name]@localhost> (single-drop); Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:13:48 +0200 (CEST) Receiv

Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/27/22 15:11, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Received: from pop.gmx.net [212.227.17.185] by aw17 with POP3 (fetchmail-6.4.31) for <[deleted local user name]@localhost> (single-drop); Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:13:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUR04-HE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([4

Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
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Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 27.10.2022 um 23:38 schrieb Wolfgang Pfeiffer : > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:09:35PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > >> The error message below, that was sent to me after sending an email to >> this list (via relay=mail.gmx.net. [212.227.17.190] - the message > > wrong: IP should say

Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:09:35PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: The error message below, that was sent to me after sending an email to this list (via relay=mail.gmx.net. [212.227.17.190] - the message wrong: IP should say [212.227.17.168] itself can be seen at the very end of the forwarde

Re: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Peter Boy
according to the message > attached below from postmas...@outlook.com > > Thanks in anticipation > Wolfgang > > > > - Forwarded message from postmas...@outlook.com - > > Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:46:59 + > From: postmas...@outlook.com > Subject: U

Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

2022-10-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
n Wolfgang - Forwarded message from postmas...@outlook.com - Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:46:59 + From: postmas...@outlook.com Subject: Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse To: r...@gmx.net Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups: y.antoniowat...@gmail.com<mailto:y.a