Re: F29-30 x86_64 system hanging requiring a hard reset - debugging /var/log/messages

2019-08-29 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 23:40, Philip Rhoades wrote: > Tony, > > > On 2019-08-28 07:09, Tony Nelson wrote: > > On 19-08-27 08:07:17, Philip Rhoades wrote: > >> People, > >> > >> ...there is a consistent "SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0" command that > >> occurs but I don't know if that is normal or not .

Re: F29-30 x86_64 system hanging requiring a hard reset - debugging /var/log/messages

2019-08-27 Thread Philip Rhoades
Tony, On 2019-08-28 07:09, Tony Nelson wrote: On 19-08-27 08:07:17, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, ...there is a consistent "SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0" command that occurs but I don't know if that is normal or not . . ... That just means that systemd (pid 1) did something that auditd report

Re: F29-30 x86_64 system hanging requiring a hard reset - debugging /var/log/messages

2019-08-27 Thread Tony Nelson
On 19-08-27 08:07:17, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, ...there is a consistent "SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0" command that occurs but I don't know if that is normal or not . . ... That just means that systemd (pid 1) did something that auditd reported. There are lots of them. E.g., your: Aug 9

F29-30 x86_64 system hanging requiring a hard reset - debugging /var/log/messages

2019-08-27 Thread Philip Rhoades
last six /var/log/messages file just prior to the hang - there is a consistent "SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0" command that occurs but I don't know if that is normal or not . . Any suggestions about further debugging would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Phil. Aug 9 22:00:45 loc

Re: update on: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/24/2017 03:22 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: I DO remember that I created an empty esmtprc, for testing, and then when restarted crond would complain that: "Local delivery not possible without a MDA" Right. If you wanted local delivery, you'd probably install the "esmtp-local-delivery" rpm.

update on: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-24 Thread M. Fioretti
On 2017-04-21 08:59, M. Fioretti wrote: Greetings, a few minutes ago, I realized that, on a Fedora 25 box I have... - my /var/log/messages was almost 15 MILLIONS lines long. - 99% of those lines (~20/second) are like this: crond: No configuration file found at /home/marco/.esmtprc or /etc

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/21/2017 10:03 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: That's odd as cron only checks its tables once a minute. It's almost as if there's a script in a loop with a "sleep 20" or something akin to it inside the loop or a program doing the same. I read 20/second as 20 times per second. It's interesting th

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/21/2017 03:15 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: 2: What uses estmp? esmtp will provide /usr/sbin/sendmail if it's the only MTA installed, in which case cronie will use it to deliver job output. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 04/20/2017 11:59 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: crond: No configuration file found at /home/marco/.esmtprc or /etc/esmtprc but the only line in my own crontab is a shell script that runs every minute. When I run that script manually, from the command line, it yelds no error or warning. At thi

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-21 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/20/2017 11:59 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: > Greetings, > > a few minutes ago, I realized that, on a Fedora 25 box I have... > > - my /var/log/messages was almost 15 MILLIONS lines long. > - 99% of those lines (~20/second) are like this: > > crond: No configuration f

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-21 Thread stan
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:59:17 +0200 "M. Fioretti" wrote: > Greetings, > > a few minutes ago, I realized that, on a Fedora 25 box I have... > > - my /var/log/messages was almost 15 MILLIONS lines long. > - 99% of those lines (~20/second) are like this: > >

Re: crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 21Apr2017 08:59, M. Fioretti wrote: a few minutes ago, I realized that, on a Fedora 25 box I have... - my /var/log/messages was almost 15 MILLIONS lines long. - 99% of those lines (~20/second) are like this: crond: No configuration file found at /home/marco/.esmtprc or /etc/esmtprc but

crond stopped, still fills /var/log/messages with millions of messages

2017-04-21 Thread M. Fioretti
Greetings, a few minutes ago, I realized that, on a Fedora 25 box I have... - my /var/log/messages was almost 15 MILLIONS lines long. - 99% of those lines (~20/second) are like this: crond: No configuration file found at /home/marco/.esmtprc or /etc/esmtprc but the only line in my own

/var/log/messages

2017-01-07 Thread Jeffrey Ross
My /var/log/messages log is full of this error Jan 7 10:59:49 laptop kernel: hub 4-5:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -32) Jan 7 10:59:49 laptop kernel: hub 4-5:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -32) Jan 7 10:59:49 laptop kernel: hub 4-5:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err

Re: Fedora 20 no /var/log/messages file

2014-04-29 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 04/29/2014 04:56 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: Actually rsyslog is what I needed. Enabled and started it and rebooted and now I see messages and mailog. I don't remember having to do that in F19, but maybe I made slightly different installation choices. Thanks You're welcome. It is a change

Re: Fedora 20 no /var/log/messages file

2014-04-29 Thread Chris Kottaridis
Actually rsyslog is what I needed. Enabled and started it and rebooted and now I see messages and mailog. I don't remember having to do that in F19, but maybe I made slightly different installation choices. Thanks Chris Kottaridis On 04/29/2014 03:12 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: On 04

Re: Fedora 20 no /var/log/messages file

2014-04-29 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 04/29/2014 03:59 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: I am migrating from a Fedora 19 to a Fedora 20 host. I used the Fedora 20 live disk to install on the new machine. I have most things transferred over and working, but curiously I don't have any messages or mail log files in /var/log as I do in the

Fedora 20 no /var/log/messages file

2014-04-29 Thread Chris Kottaridis
I am migrating from a Fedora 19 to a Fedora 20 host. I used the Fedora 20 live disk to install on the new machine. I have most things transferred over and working, but curiously I don't have any messages or mail log files in /var/log as I do in the F19 host: # ls /var/log anaconda dnf.rpm.log

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-08 Thread lee
disk usage, and you can adjust the configuration of logrotate to get rid of the log files sooner. When partitions/disks are more than 50% full, start planning to extend the storage capacity. For comparison, /var/log/messages currently goes over six days here and is 344kB in size. -- Fedora

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
OK, I run fine, Thus I deleted some big files. recover some room on the / /dev/sdb6                          6192704  5216872    661260  89% / but then again: /dev/sdb6                          6192704  5532276    345856  95% / I guess that it is the /var which grows up to fast! I have /usr /t

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-07 Thread lee
"Patrick Dupre" writes: > Hello, > > I have a /var/log/messages file of size: 74197292 > Is it resonable? That depends on what´s in it. Under some circumstances, there can be quite a bit of logging going on. Logrotate is supposed to deal with it and might not have

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:24:09 +0100 "Patrick Dupre" wrote: > OK, > > Can I force it? > logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf > > did not help. > ls -l /var/log/messages ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
OK, Can I force it? logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf did not help. > On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 02:34:20 +0100 > Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > I have a /var/log/messages file of size: 74197292 > > Is it resonable? > > Probably not. Is logrotate turned off or not ins

Re: /var/log/messages

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 02:34:20 +0100 Patrick Dupre wrote: > I have a /var/log/messages file of size: 74197292 > Is it resonable? Probably not. Is logrotate turned off or not installed? Here's my logs: zooty> ls -l /var/log/messages* -rw--- 1 root root 289231 Mar 6 19:59 /va

/var/log/messages

2014-03-06 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I have a /var/log/messages file of size: 74197292 Is it resonable? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Universi

Re: F18+ /var/log/messages safely clean/rotate

2013-05-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 01 May 2013 12:22:18 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > Normally you simply type "> /var/log/messages" which finally > mean "redirect nothing to the file" and since append would > be >> it is cleared > Thank you Harald, I'm still lea

Re: F18+ /var/log/messages safely clean/rotate

2013-05-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.05.2013 09:52, schrieb Frank Murphy: > How to safely clean /var/log/messages for specific testing. > or set it to hourly rotate. > Couldn't see specific config in /etc/logrotate.d logotate does not work this way /etc/logrotate.d/syslog /var/lib/logrotate.status > Have

Re: F18+ /var/log/messages safely clean/rotate

2013-05-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 01 May 2013 11:20:15 +0200 Jon Ingason wrote: > Have you looked in /etc/logrotate.d/syslog? > > On my F18 it contains: > > $ more /etc/logrotate.d/syslog > /var/log/messages Missed it, Will separate message from it, put it in it own conf and hope it keeps.

Re: F18+ /var/log/messages safely clean/rotate

2013-05-01 Thread Jon Ingason
2013-05-01 09:52, Frank Murphy skrev: How to safely clean /var/log/messages for specific testing. or set it to hourly rotate. Couldn't see specific config in /etc/logrotate.d Have tried "logrotate --force /var/log/messages" lots of "error: /var/log/messages:7137 unknown opti

Re: F18+ /var/log/messages safely clean/rotate

2013-05-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/01/2013 12:52 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: How to safely clean /var/log/messages for specific testing. or set it to hourly rotate. Couldn't see specific config in /etc/logrotate.d Have tried "logrotate --force /var/log/messages" lots of "error: /var/log/messages:7137

F18+ /var/log/messages safely clean/rotate

2013-05-01 Thread Frank Murphy
How to safely clean /var/log/messages for specific testing. or set it to hourly rotate. Couldn't see specific config in /etc/logrotate.d Have tried "logrotate --force /var/log/messages" lots of "error: /var/log/messages:7137 unknown option 'May' -- ignoring line&

Re: /var/log/messages ful of rpc.statd select: Bad file descriptor lines

2013-04-07 Thread Steve Searle
Around 09:11pm on Friday, April 05, 2013 (UK time), Rick Stevens scrawled: > Make sure your mountd daemon has been updated. Also, if that machine > isn't an NFS server, disable mountd: > > systemctl stop nfs-mountd.service > systemctl disable nfs-mountd.service Thanks. This isn't a n

Re: /var/log/messages ful of rpc.statd select: Bad file descriptor lines

2013-04-05 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/05/2013 09:47 AM, Steve Searle issued this missive: On three or four occasions now on one of my Fedora 18 machines warns that I am running out of space on /var (it has its own partition). This is due to /var/log/messages being full of rpc.statd[1282]: my_svc_run() - select: Bad file

/var/log/messages ful of rpc.statd select: Bad file descriptor lines

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Searle
On three or four occasions now on one of my Fedora 18 machines warns that I am running out of space on /var (it has its own partition). This is due to /var/log/messages being full of rpc.statd[1282]: my_svc_run() - select: Bad file descriptor messages - these are repeated many times a second

dbus-daemon/upowerd flooding /var/log/messages (f16)

2012-04-02 Thread Neal Becker
with these messages: Apr 2 07:49:01 nbecker1 dbus-daemon[977]: ** (upowerd:1198): WARNING **: Property get or set does not have an interface string as first arg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: upowerd dbus messages in /var/log/messages

2012-02-20 Thread Lester M Petrie
On 02/19/2012 09:03 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:56:57 -0500 Lester M Petrie wrote: Hi The following 2 lines are repeated every 30 secs in /var/log/messages. What causes them, or more importantly, how can I stop them. This is a desktop machine running Fedora 16. Fixing the

Re: upowerd dbus messages in /var/log/messages

2012-02-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:56:57 -0500 Lester M Petrie wrote: > Hi > > The following 2 lines are repeated every 30 secs in /var/log/messages. > What causes them, or more importantly, how can I stop them. This is a > desktop machine running Fedora 16. Fixing the source of the mes

upowerd dbus messages in /var/log/messages

2012-02-19 Thread Lester M Petrie
Hi The following 2 lines are repeated every 30 secs in /var/log/messages. What causes them, or more importantly, how can I stop them. This is a desktop machine running Fedora 16. uname -a Linux morgoth.localdomain 3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 13 20:35:42 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 17:40, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 05:23 PM, jdow wrote: Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works. Until last month when Social Security kicked in, I had no income. Literally. A "cheap replacement drive" is still a big chunk of my monthly income,

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 05:23 PM, jdow wrote: Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works. Until last month when Social Security kicked in, I had no income. Literally. A "cheap replacement drive" is still a big chunk of my monthly income, not to be considered lightly, espe

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
might have something to do with it. I'm seriously considering uninstalling all 3.X kernels, rebooting and updating the kernel to see if that helps. And, I'd still like to know how having /var/log/messages active would have been much of a help because AFAICT, most of the info I need doesn&#x

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
do with it. I'm seriously considering uninstalling all 3.X kernels, rebooting and updating the kernel to see if that helps. And, I'd still like to know how having /var/log/messages active would have been much of a help because AFAICT, most of the info I need doesn't get put there

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 16:53, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 13:16 -0800, jdow wrote: One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!" One could observe that this is a sign of acceptance of sl

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 13:16 -0800, jdow wrote: > One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe > your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!" > One could observe that this is a sign of acceptance of sloppiness. And there > are more things

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 14:19, Reindl Harald wrote: On 22.12.2011 22:16, jdow wrote: Careful sir, you just stepped into the brown pile the doggie left. One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!" O

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 23:55, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/22/2011 02:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> if you call it arrogance to check what i am doing before, while and >> especially AFTER a dist-upgrade so i am arrogant - better this than >> doing anything without verify > > No, but it is arrogance to put an

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 02:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: if you call it arrogance to check what i am doing before, while and especially AFTER a dist-upgrade so i am arrogant - better this than doing anything without verify No, but it is arrogance to put another member of the list (me, as it happens) for n

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 22:16, jdow wrote: > Careful sir, you just stepped into the brown pile the doggie left. > > One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe > your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!" > One could observe that this is a sig

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 4:16 PM, jdow wrote: Your arrogance seems to have tripped you up, sir. his posts drip with disdain, lording his far superior practices, and heaping scorn on the lesser mortals he's supposedly here to help...(at least, I thought that was the purpose of this list) -- Claude Jone

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 4:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 11:24 AM, Claude Jones wrote: On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918 thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report Great!

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 01:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: however, do not check this after dist-upgrades is a epic-fail how do you debig all the other problems you wrote about if least your syslog does not work? Apples and oranges here, because you're working in a production environment and I'm only deali

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/22 10:58, Reindl Harald wrote: On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the user had previously configured."

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
sound still doesn't work, why I can > only mount USB drives or CDs as root (and I still can't get USB drives world > writable.) and trying to clean up all > of the duplicate packages left by a hung install. Yesterday, while looking > into the USB/CD issue I happened t

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 11:24 AM, Claude Jones wrote: On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918 thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report Great! I see that you got hit going from F15 t

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
USB/CD issue I happened to stumble on the rsyslog issue. Tell me, Tim, how often do you need to examine /var/log/messages? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 10:44 AM, Claude Jones wrote: I tried, but your link just took me into the login page; I logged in and then I got an error saying "You must specify a product first" - Tried a second time, but only got a blank bug reporting page ready to be filled in - no trace in all of this of your

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918 thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/12/11 18:56, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Just did it on an F15> F16, rsyslog came up enabled and running. Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box. rsyslog was converted to systemd in F15, so F15->F16 would have just retained the enabl

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: >> "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default >> start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the >> user had previously configured." > > In other words, the new rule is

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Just did it on an F15 > F16, > rsyslog came up enabled and running. > Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box. rsyslog was converted to systemd in F15, so F15->F16 would have just retained the enabled state in systemd. -T.C. -- users maili

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Just did it on an F15 > F16, rsyslog came up enabled and running. Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box. I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918 -- users mailing list users@list

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Just did it on an F15 > F16, rsyslog came up enabled and running. Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box. It's possible that the upgrade method is significant. I used preupgrade on both my desktop and laptop. The bug struck the desktop but I've y

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: If this is true, it does seem like a radical change. What possible argument could there be for not logging by default? I recently saw that the proper way to shut down Linux from the command line is poweroff. The old command halt now halts the

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 1:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/22/2011 01:03 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: The fact that it's not being enabled in practice is definitely a bug, and someone experiencing this should file it. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/post_bug.cgi I'd appreciate anybody else on the list f

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the user had previously configured." In other words, the new rule is to assume that whoever set the system up and runs

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: Tim sets the super pedant mode... Do some more research. What I did *is* accepted correct modern usage of "begs the question." It's still wrong, just as "Me and Jim went to the mall." is, even though most people under about 25 or so would swear it's correc

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/22/2011 01:03 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: The fact that it's not being enabled in practice is definitely a bug, and someone experiencing this should file it. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/post_bug.cgi I'd appreciate anybody else on the list finding this adding comments to the bug

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/12/11 15:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So, whatever you had set up beforehand is ignored, and the new default is implemented. Not logging, by default, doesn't seem a good idea. If this is true, it does seem like a radical change. What possible argument could there be for not logging b

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 01:47 +1030, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a > >> fault? > > Rahul Sundaram: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs#Upgrade_from_previous_releases_resets_the_enablement_status_of_services > > > Well

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a >> fault? Rahul Sundaram: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16_bugs#Upgrade_from_previous_releases_resets_the_enablement_status_of_services Well, that seems to suggest that the new default is not to log. "Th

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just >> a fault? Joe Zeff: > > No, it doesn't, it asks the question. Begging the question is > something entirely different which would better be called assuming > your conclusion. Tim sets the super pedant mode... Do som

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/22/2011 02:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. I wouldn't mind being the reporter, but I

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 10:51, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/22/2011 10:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> On 22.12.2011 07:27, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:30:50 +1030 Tim wrote: > Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a > fault? Maybe doing an upgrade doesn't transfer the on/off setting from the old chkconfig info to the new systemd info? Maybe syslog is merely the most noticable of the service

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2011 10:06 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: On 22.12.2011 07:27, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Reindl Harald
On 22.12.2011 07:27, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by >> the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. >> >> If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. > > I wouldn't mind being the rep

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 12/22/2011 12:30 PM, Tim wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html >> >> Begs the question:  Has this no-logging become a new default,

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/22/2011 12:30 PM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html > > Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a > fault? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F16

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2011 08:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. I wouldn't mind being the reporter, but I

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. I wouldn't mind being the reporter, but I'd like to know if anybody else sees thi

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 08:10 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/22/2011 08:00 AM, Tim wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> > >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html > > > > Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new de

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 11:00 PM, Tim wrote: Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? No, it doesn't, it asks the question. Begging the question is something entirely different which would better be called assuming your conclusion. The term comes from a form of

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2011 08:00 AM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? I would call it a functional regression having be

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replie

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 01:13 PM, Alan J. Gagne wrote: Try here ! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd Thanx, Alan, I've bookmarked it JIC. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guideline

RE:/var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Alan J. Gagne
Try here ! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: h

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 12:04 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 21/12/11 19:59, Joe Zeff wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Excellent. Thank you. The odd thing here is that the link mentioned in that post already existed. And, I'd still appreciate a cheat she

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/12/11 19:59, Joe Zeff wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

/var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
I just tried to check something in /var/log/messages and noticed something: the last entry was on Dec 6 when I rebooted to start the upgrade from F14 to F16. Since then, nothing. I presume that something was turned off during the upgrade but I don't know what and I don't know the

Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-09-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.08.2011 15:38, schrieb antonio.montagn...@alice.it: >>> How is it possible?? >> > >> Are you running F15? >> >> Try systemctl restart syslog.target . There was a bug > in F15 that >> caused this. I can't remember the fix, though. You might try > >> systemctl enable syslog.service . >

Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 08:55 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 14:11:15 antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: > > I checked all files in var/log and in particular I found these files are 0 > > bytes. > > > > How is it possible?? > > Are you running F15? > > Try systemc

Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread stan
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:38:01 +0200 (CEST) "antonio.montagn...@alice.it" wrote: > [root@Acer antonio] > # systemctl enable syslog.service > Couldn't find syslog.service. > > > what is > wrong?? The system is called rsyslog. Run systemctl -a -t service | less to see all the services availab

R: Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
>Messaggio originale >Da: m...@avtechpulse.com >Data: 31-ago-2011 15.59 >A: >Ogg: Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty > >> [root@Acer antonio] >> # systemctl enable syslog.service >> Couldn't find syslog.service. > > &g

Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
> [root@Acer antonio] > # systemctl enable syslog.service > Couldn't find syslog.service. systemctl enable rsyslog.service (add the "r") - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/us

R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
>Messaggio originale >Da: gtwilli...@gmail.com >Data: 31-ago-2011 14.55 >A: "antonio.montagn...@alice.it", "Community support for Fedora users" >Ogg: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty > >On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 14:11:15 antonio.mo

Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 14:11:15 antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: > I checked all files in var/log and in particular I found these files are 0 > bytes. > > How is it possible?? Are you running F15? Try systemctl restart syslog.target . There was a bug in F15 that caused this. I can't

Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-08-31 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
I checked all files in var/log and in particular I found these files are 0 bytes. How is it possible?? Tnx Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedora

Re: /var/log/messages empty

2011-07-13 Thread jarmo
#kern.* /dev/console < chnged kern.* /var/log/messages Seems to solve logging problem Jarmo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

/var/log/messages empty

2011-07-13 Thread jarmo
I'm confused, /var/log/messages is empty. FC15 multi-user.target.wants]# systemctl status rsyslog.service rsyslog.service - System Logging Service Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service) Active: active (running) since Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:20:03 +0300; 24mi

Re: /var/log/messages is empty

2011-06-11 Thread Garry T. Williams
that > they'll only notice when they need to look at a log and it's not there. > In my case I lost three weeks worth of /var/log/messages. > > Note that a simple yum update does not fix this. That's true for the pioneers. :-) At least the QA folks want to make sure it

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