Re: Fedora22 Security Issue.

2015-08-18 Thread inode0
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Scott Mattan wrote: > Hello, > > I am seeing some disparity between (two distributions granted) CentOS 6.6 > and Fedora22 in their use of the su utility. I cannot figure out the cause, > so I cannot fix it. > > In CentOS there is no way to script login to root...

Re: /boot and encrypted partitions?

2015-08-01 Thread inode0
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Encrypted /boot isn't supported by Fedora's installer. GRUB 2 has > supported this for a while, and it's also possible to setup a keyfile > so all you have to do is give a password once to GRUB and then you > don't get a plymouth passphrase en

Re: /boot and encrypted partitions?

2015-07-31 Thread inode0
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 07/31/2015 02:00 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> grub2 supports LUKS. You'll need to add GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y to >> /etc/sysconfig/grub > > > Interesting. Thanks for the tip! :) For anyone adventurous e

Re: /boot and encrypted partitions?

2015-07-31 Thread inode0
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 07/31/2015 12:02 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> /boot can be on an encrypted partition. I've been looking at this >> lately and decided to try to do it after seeing this thread today. >> Anaconda won't

Re: /boot and encrypted partitions?

2015-07-31 Thread inode0
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 07/31/2015 08:28 AM, Dave Johansen wrote: >> >> I was luck enough to be bitten by this issue ( >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1212907 ) when attempting to do >> a clean install of F22. > > > That bug looks like it's trigg

Re: SE alert

2015-07-18 Thread inode0
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 10:02 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 07/18/2015 08:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> On 07/19/15 10:17, jd1008 wrote: >>> >>> The original I posted says: >>> >>> type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1437267001.953:644): arch=x86_64 syscall=openat >>> success=no exit=EACCES a0=ff9c a

Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

2015-02-03 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 02/03/2015 04:48 PM, inode0 wrote: >> There is another exploit in the wild that adobe expects to fix with >> another release sometime this week. > > > I have a limited use of flash. For sites like cnn. Well, I

Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

2015-02-03 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > www.cnn.com is telling me that my version of flash-player is out of date > with security risks so it won't display any video news. Go and update your > flash player. > > On this F21 system I am using: > > adobe-linux-x86_64.repo > > which

Re: create local repo for yum or dnf

2014-11-21 Thread inode0
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > Can yum or dnf use the local filesystem for a repo? > > I can run createrepo on my local rpms under rpmbuild/RPMS. > > Can I tell yum or dnf to look there? I don't want to have to setup a web > server > to do this. You should be able to use

Re: list of all updates

2014-10-27 Thread inode0
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Ger van Dijck wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a question : Is it possible to display a list of ALL updates ? > > I mean from the very beginning : So after install F20 , then the first > installed update till the last installed update. yum updateinfo list installed (o

Re: checking for hexadecimal vals only in a string in bash

2014-09-19 Thread inode0
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: > In a bash shell script I want to see if a string has nothing but hexadecimal > values in it. > > So: > > A098FE or af098fe > > should be true > > hello > > should not. > > How do I check for that ? > > I've been playing with > > if [[ $va

Re: Fedora *is* for servers! [was Re: Need advice]

2014-04-19 Thread inode0
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:40:40AM -0400, David wrote: >> My question is/was "And yet you are still 'here'?" Bitching about Fedora? >> >> If you do not 'like Fedora' I would suggest that you find some other >> distro of Linux that you do. And le

Re: ssh "GSSAPIAuthentication yes"

2013-11-26 Thread inode0
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > James Hogarth wrote: > >>> At the moment I'm not clear what advantage keytabs have. >>> I do not have to login after "ssh -Y ..." >>> as I have appended id_rsa.pub to known_hosts in each direction. > >> Keytabs are like a filebased password

Re: ssh "GSSAPIAuthentication yes"

2013-11-25 Thread inode0
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I see that in /etc/ssh/ssh_config I have the above setting > in both Fedora-19 and CentOS-6.4 . > In both cases ssh (openssh) tries and fails to use gssapi-with-mic > authentication, with the message > === > Unspecified G

Re: Writing English.

2013-11-22 Thread inode0
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Rolf Turner wrote: > > Just read some stuff on this list about "spins", a concept which had > not previously impinged itself upon my consciousness. So I went and > had a look at the spins.fedoraproject.org page. It started off by saying > "What is a spin? Fedora s

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread inode0
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > HI > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> >> Why shouldn't it matter to him? Who should it matter to? > > > I already indicated why it shouldn't matter to him because w

Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on

2013-11-21 Thread inode0
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Hugh Caley wrote: >> >> >> I'm voting for Cinnamon, since the developer of compiz isn't interested in >> keeping it going. But maybe if MATE was the default for Fedora he'd change >> his mind? Or s

Re: How to keep an old kernel?

2013-10-09 Thread inode0
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm running Fedora-19/KDE on a Thinkpad T61. > I had serious problems with hibernation > when kernel-3.11 first came on the scene. > Things have slightly improved now, > but I still occasionally have what seems like > the same problem, one sy

Re: cron job question (for checking kernel updates)

2013-10-02 Thread inode0
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 20:53:52 -0500 inode0 wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have a cron job running which yum updates all my mac

Re: cron job question (for checking kernel updates)

2013-10-02 Thread inode0
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > I have a cron job running which yum updates all my machines once a day. > All of these work fine. > > I also have a cron job which checks for kernel updates every hour and > sends me a message if an updated kernel has been installed.

Re: Script Help (Bash)

2013-09-28 Thread inode0
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:31:07 -0500 > inode0 wrote: > >> While there might be a cleaner way to detect that something was >> downloaded what I do is log the output from reposync and then >> >> if grep -q Dow

Re: Script Help (Bash)

2013-09-28 Thread inode0
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Still haven't mastered bash, not even a jack ( > > Have strung some command(s) together in /etc/cron.daily > > #!/bin/bash > ## Download no-bebug rawhide kernel > /usr/bin/cd > /var/cache/yum/x86_64/20/fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug-source/pac

Re: permissions -

2013-09-23 Thread inode0
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > Are you saying that the "b" is merely to control the color in a listing? I > view everything in black and white. > > Does it have any other effect? It is informative, it tells you what sort of "file" you are looking at. N

Re: permissions -

2013-09-23 Thread inode0
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > I spent the last half hour googling with no success. What does the "b" mean > and how is it controlled? > > [root@box10 bobg]# ll /dev/sdb* > brw-rw. 1 root disk 8, 16 Sep 23 14:36 /dev/sdb > brw-rw. 1 root disk

Re: BASH and wildcard expansion

2013-08-19 Thread inode0
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Mark Haney wrote: > I've hit a problem I can't quite figure out which a bash script I'm writing. > I'm trying to copy backup files in the format 2013-August-18--1123.zip to an > NFS share. I want to have the script copy the file with just the date. In > bash I've

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-02 Thread inode0
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 2 August 2013 19:09, inode0 wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: >>> On 02.08.2013, inode0 wrote: >>> >>>> Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-02 Thread inode0
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 02.08.2013, inode0 wrote: > >> Failure to have your expectations met leads to demotivation and the >> easiest way to fix that is to change your expectations. > > It's free software, and therefore I'm

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-02 Thread inode0
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 02.08.2013, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> While one could consider not answering a bugreport to be a display of >> bad manners > > It first and foremost is demotivating, which in turn results in fewer > bug reports, which in turn results in wor

Re: It's that time again

2013-08-01 Thread inode0
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Tethys wrote: > So here I am, sat with an inbox full of bugs that I reported when F17 > came out and now they're being closed as F17 is EOL. Once again, > several of them don't appear to have even been looked over *at all* by > the package maintainer. I wonder why I

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> >> >> The victims are all the members of this list who don't want to >> constantly be exposed to all this drama. The facts are

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > HI > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrot >> >> > >> what about think 10 seconds that 5 inpolite messages out of 1000 >> are statistically not relevant - show me 5 people with more answers >> than me in the last two years

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-18 Thread inode0
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Thomas Dineen wrote: > Gentle People: > >Think about how his behiaviour reflects on the effort of the entire > Fedora community? Incessant whining by other community members also makes our community less appealing to many people. Can we please act as friends w

Re: a different point of view to "etiquette"

2013-07-17 Thread inode0
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > This is a reply to a reply sent directly to me as well as to the list. Moderation makes a horrible mess of the flow of discussion. Please don't get mad at each other for getting confused by or not noticing the effect it has. I'm about to

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-10 Thread inode0
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> >> On 07/10/2013 06:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> >>> (e.g. he still behaves as if 'i' were an English word, despite being >>> told that it isn't) >> >> >> I've seen all too

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-09 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 09.07.2013 14:15, schrieb Jared K. Smith: >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Reindl Harald > > wrote: >> >> it does not matter because on this list you are even moderated >> and banned because off-list

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-08 Thread inode0
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> *large* >> *but* >> *serious* >> *ifÜ >> *and* you have rate-controls *and then* >> *pretty sure* >> *really serious* > > Reindl, > > Please understand that your use of the English language

Re: Installing a single file from an RPM into a system running SELinux

2013-05-12 Thread inode0
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2013 15:07:04 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > >> On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 14:16 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: >> > On 05/11/2013 01:40 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: >> > > I need to install a single file from an RPM, namely >> > > >> >

Re: yum installed name only?

2013-05-04 Thread inode0
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/04/2013 02:23 PM, David wrote: >> >> On 5/4/2013 5:10 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> >>> On 05/04/2013 01:52 PM, David wrote: I'm sorry I offered to help. I promise to never try again. >>> >>> >>> Does that mean that you're leaving the lis

Re: yum installed name only?

2013-05-04 Thread inode0
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Trying to do a yum version of: > > rpm -qa --queryformat %10(NAME) > ~/var/tmp/box1.list > > yum list installed ? I don't know how to do it with yum but repoquery --installed is another way that accepts query format specifications. John -- u

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-17 Thread inode0
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Craig White wrote: > Scientific Linux has paid staff to build packages whereas CentOS is > strictly unpaid/volunteer packagers. I think that changed last year. http://centosnow.blogspot.com/2012/06/centos-project-release-times.html John -- users mailing list u

Re: nc missing option -z

2013-02-13 Thread inode0
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > One thing of interest to note but which may not affect what the OP is > doing > > If the port being tested is listed as "filtered" by nmap > > [egreshko@meimei ~]$ nmap -Pn -p143 imap.gmail.com > > Starting Nmap 6.01 ( http://nmap.org ) at

Re: nc missing option -z

2013-02-13 Thread inode0
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi John, > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:37:27PM -0600, inode0 wrote: >> >> Something like this perhaps. >> >> $ 2>/dev/null >/dev/tcp/imap.gmail.com/993 && sync-my-email.sh > > This works,

Re: nc missing option -z

2013-02-12 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi, > > I used to use netcat to check if a particular host is up or if I have > internet connection before I run a few scripts. I would use the -z > option in particular. But now I see that has been removed: > > $ nc -z imap.gmail.com 993 &&

Re: How to use repoquery?

2012-12-12 Thread inode0
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > $ winword > p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: > /usr/lib/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No > such > file or directory > > $ repoquery --whatprovides /usr/lib/pkcs11/gnome-

Re: Bash - an odd problem using sed or awk or for

2012-11-30 Thread inode0
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:32 AM, John Horne wrote: > On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 18:56 -0600, inode0 wrote: > >> >> Oh, for a simple variable this should work >> >> echo "${XX/* >> >> }" >> > Hello, > > Yes, that does seem to work

Re: Bash - an odd problem using sed or awk or for

2012-11-29 Thread inode0
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:48 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM, John Horne wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have a bash script in which a variable is set to one or more lines of >> text. What I want is to remove any lines up to and including a blank >&g

Re: Bash - an odd problem using sed or awk or for

2012-11-29 Thread inode0
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:33 PM, John Horne wrote: > Hello, > > I have a bash script in which a variable is set to one or more lines of > text. What I want is to remove any lines up to and including a blank > line (or alternatively to echo all the lines after the last blank line). > There may be z

Re: bc and built-in funcs

2012-10-29 Thread inode0
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:35 PM, JD wrote: > Hi all > I have: > > $ rpm -q bc > bc-1.06.95-3.fc15.i686 > > I was searching the web for bc funs to calculate cube roots > and other arbitrary roots. Almost all of the func I found > assume that bc has the built-in funcs l and e which take > a numeric

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-09-02 Thread inode0
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Lailah wrote: > For Fedora 18 is too late but I think we are on time for Fedora 19. Where > and when we can make our proposals for F19 name release? Since this entire conversation is about if and how to change the process beginning with Fedora 19 there is no answe

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-11 Thread inode0
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/11/2012 01:35 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> I don't think it was picked to honor anyone, but if you want to know >> who the immature testosterone overloaded contributor was you can see >> who nominated the name Be

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-11 Thread inode0
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/11/2012 12:41 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: >> >> As far as I can see, there's no imminent harm to giving a new release of >> an OS a name, if anything it gives it an identity, something to >> associate it with, such as when two developer

Re: Searching For.....

2012-08-05 Thread inode0
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > On 08/05/2012 06:54 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> On 08/05/2012 03:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: >>> Just another "not-quite-so-stupid" question: If I wanted Fedora >>> "Swag"...(t-shirts, coffee mug, baseball cap etc.) where would

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-31 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > David Boles wrote: > >>> The Fedora Board is soliciting ideas for how to name Fedora releases >>> from community members. Proposals should be sent to the Advisory >>> Board list[0][1] no later than 16:00 UTC on 25 July 2012. The >>> communi

Re: Message when running yum update

2012-06-30 Thread inode0
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:00 PM, JD wrote: > On 06/30/2012 09:48 PM, Tim wrote: >> >> On Sat, 2012-06-30 at 21:57 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: >>> >>> I'm guessing the subscription-manager yum plugin is for RHEL and >>> shouldn't be installed on a Fedora machine.  And Red Hat does want to >>> va

Re: bash history

2012-04-28 Thread inode0
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote: > I read about a shell variable called HISTIGNORE that is supposed to prevent > duplicate > commands from occurring in .bash_history. > > I put the following line into ~/.bash_profile: > > export HISTIGNORE="&" > > It's not working. I still ha

Re: OT: red hat?

2012-04-17 Thread inode0
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, inode0 said: >> For years they have been sold through brandfuel. I can see on the >> Internet Archive that happened through at least August 2010. When >> exactly or why it stopped I have no idea. I wou

Re: OT: red hat?

2012-04-17 Thread inode0
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron said: >> Generally, you only get one from Red Hat when you go to work there. I >> think in the past they were given away at trade shows and the like, but >> now the only way I know to get one is to get hired th

Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

2012-04-14 Thread inode0
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: >> >> [egreshko@meimei test]$ grep ^A out | wc >>      97      97     582 >> [egreshko@meimei test]$ grep ^B out | wc >>      94      94     564 >> [egreshko@meimei test]$ grep ^C out | wc >>      96      96     576 > > I replicated this and in

Re: What it be..

2012-03-02 Thread inode0
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 3/2/2012 10:32 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell >>  wrote: >>> >>> John: >>> >>> Out of curiosity, do you (or anyone) know what RH

Re: What it be..

2012-03-02 Thread inode0
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > John: > > Out of curiosity, do you (or anyone) know what RHEL7 is basing itself on? I > don't use RHEL, but am wondering if the next RHEL major will have Gnome 3? > (full disclosure: I switched to Xfce after F14) I don't know that the ba

Re: What it be..

2012-03-02 Thread inode0
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 3/2/2012 9:56 PM, Frank Cox wrote: >> >> On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:51:46 -0500 >> Hal wrote: >> >>> What is the correlation between Fedora Version Numbers and RHEL 5 or RHEL >>> 6 >> >> There is no direct correlation. >> > Frank: > > Agre

Re: F14 EOL?

2011-11-23 Thread inode0
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I have yumex check for updates every morning.  For the last several > days, there've been none for my desktop on F14.  Yesterday, there were a > number of them for my laptop, now on F16.  Generally speaking, there's > an announcement at the Fedora

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/14/2011 06:31 AM, inode0 wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, inode0 wrote: >>> >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base >&

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/14/2011 06:01 AM, inode0 wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base >> >> The special class of users that is apparently no longer called the >> "target audience" but is none-the-l

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On 11/13/2011 02:42 PM, inode0 wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: >>>> They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. >>

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/14/2011 02:12 AM, inode0 wrote: >> User #1 is from the user base professed by the project to be its >> target audience. User #2 is more from the enterprise consumer side of >> Fedora's community. My sugg

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: >> They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. > > How is a desktop user affected by new clustering technology?  You aren't > making any sense to me now Let'

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 11:57 PM, inode0 wrote: >> They are affected by many of the changes. That is why. > > How is a desktop user affected by new clustering technology?  You aren't > making any sense to me now You re

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 11:34 PM, inode0 wrote: >>>> value to the Fedora desktop user are two very different things. >>> >>> False dichotomy. >> >> It is only false if you assume I meant the groups to b

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 11/13/2011 09:14 PM, inode0 wrote: > >> You are both correct but you are looking at the result from different >> perspectives. Many technical improvements do happen and they are >> admired by those who *later* u

Re: Trends - how to save Fedora ?

2011-11-13 Thread inode0
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > On 11/13/2011 01:15 AM, JB wrote: >> Hi, >> >> every Fedora release is going downhill ... > > Erm, no. Each Fedora release has brought in numerous technical > improvements. Virtualization, clustering, directory services, more and > more feat

Re: A general history question

2011-11-05 Thread inode0
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Linux Tyro wrote: > Hi, > > Excited to see this world of Linux. A general question came in mind > regarding the origin of Linux. > > Well, it (Linux) is basically a kernel -- perhaps same in majority of all > the distros, almost all. Well, openSUSE also uses the te

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-15 Thread inode0
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 9:30 PM, inode0 wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Robert Myers wrote: >>> Even Microsoft tests changes on *users*.  Of course, Fedora is sort of >>> a beta distribution for RedHat

Re: Yep, names like p4p1 are soooo much better than eth0 :-(

2011-10-15 Thread inode0
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 10/16/2011 04:24 AM, John Aldrich wrote: >>> On Thu October 13 2011, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > The adults also realize that Fedora already has a process pretty much > exactl

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-11 Thread inode0
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Other than a legal check for conflicts with trademarks etc,  that is > correct.  Any name can get through if someone proposes and enough people > vote for it.  Anyone with a Fedora account can vote and getting a > account takes only a few mi

Re: Looking for Live-multi.iso generation script

2011-10-02 Thread inode0
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > At about this time last year an enterprising group released the > Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso. With a little tweaking I was able to install > this 5.2GB iso image onto a bootable 8GB thumb drive. That and a Helix3 > forensic thumb drive

Re: Where will be the next FUDCon ?

2011-07-04 Thread inode0
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Marcos Ortiz wrote: > Regards and thanks a lot reading > I'm very happy with Fedora after 4 years like a normal user > and I think it's time to contribute to the project. So, I'm very > interested to participate on the next FUDCon. > > I've seen that the last one in

Re: Bash: (foo==0)?foo=1:foo=0 valid?

2011-07-02 Thread inode0
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > I used:  (((foo==0)?foo=1:0)) and it works in a bash script! I don't think that is quite the same as what I'm guessing your original attempt intended. In this case if foo does not equal 0 to begin with it won't be set to 0. Perhaps that d

Re: Bash: (foo==0)?foo=1:foo=0 valid?

2011-07-02 Thread inode0
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > I seem to forget my shell programming > but is the following statement valid? > > ($foo==0)?foo=1:foo=0 > > I thought it was called the tristate conditional > operator but in any case I could not find it in > google. I think you might

Re: Adieu, Fedora

2011-06-12 Thread inode0
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 20:14, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> I've recently switched from briefs to boxers.  Somehow I don't think >> that is worthy of an announcement either.   :-) :-) > > Heh what a great alternative way to ay what I replied in

Re: Duplicate accounts?

2011-03-01 Thread inode0
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Armelius Cameron wrote: > On Monday, February 28, 2011 10:53:34 pm inode0 wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Larry Brower wrote: >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> > Hash: SHA512 >> > >> > On 02/28/20

Re: Duplicate accounts?

2011-02-28 Thread inode0
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Larry Brower wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 02/28/2011 07:47 AM, Alain Spineux wrote: > >>> So I did SUDO -i, and from root as shell I tried to >>> chown -hR * fcassia on the Desktop folder... >> >> You must switch the star and ou

Re: Curious bash evaluation

2010-12-27 Thread inode0
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 13:31 -0500, Chris Tyler wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 17:05 +0100, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: >> > Hello. See this: >> > >> > # A="echo 'hi'" >> > >> > # echo $($A) >> > 'hi' >> > >> > # echo 'hi' >>

Re: Curious bash evaluation

2010-12-27 Thread inode0
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 10:46 -0600, inode0 wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo >> wrote: >> > Hello. See this: >> > >> > # A="echo 'hi'&

Re: Curious bash evaluation

2010-12-27 Thread inode0
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: > Hello. See this: > > # A="echo 'hi'" > > # echo $($A) > 'hi' That seems rather convoluted. Are you sure you don't just want to "eval $A" anyway? I realize your example may be a simple abstraction of something more complex. John

Re: Migrating DVD ISO image to USB

2010-12-21 Thread inode0
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 23:21 -0600, inode0 wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:49 PM, inode0 wrote: >> > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage >> > wrote: >> >> The Fed

Re: Migrating DVD ISO image to USB

2010-12-21 Thread inode0
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:49 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage > wrote: >> The Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso image is a DVD image that uses GRUB rather >> than isolinux to boot to a menu of Live CD ISO images. At 5.3 GB, it >> wil

Re: Migrating DVD ISO image to USB

2010-12-21 Thread inode0
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > The Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso image is a DVD image that uses GRUB rather > than isolinux to boot to a menu of Live CD ISO images. At 5.3 GB, it > will not fit on an ordinary single layer DVD and requires a dual-layer > DVD disc & driv

Re: Sudden failure of anacron job 'cron.daily'

2010-08-06 Thread inode0
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: > Hello > > Has anyone had this problem after the latest updates. > I still get the report: > > /etc/cron.daily/0logwatch: > > Can't exec "sendmail": Permission denied at /usr/sbin/logwatch line > 1032, > + line 2. > Can't execute sendmail

Re: A message from the Fedora Board to all of our users

2010-06-27 Thread inode0
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > There have been recent discussions on this list surrounding the fact > that users feel left out of the Fedora decision making process. As the > Fedora leadership, we'd like to do nothing more than engage the user > community as key participants

Re: Setting GDM Login Screen Background

2010-02-21 Thread inode0
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Sawrub wrote: > Hi All, > Appearance Preferences > Background and selecting 'Make Default' used to > set the selected desktop background as the background image for the GDM > login screen and used to work till F11, but is not working as desired > under F12. Is the

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > inode0 wrote: >> But Fedora doesn't bicker about this. Red Hat doesn't mandate this. >> Fedora as a community makes the decision. So why are we discussing it >> at all? Having transparent governanc

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > inode0 wrote: >> It if were brand new they could do whatever they pleased to create it. >> But it isn't brand new. And it isn't just two businesses who can tell >> their paid staff what to work on tomo

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > inode0 wrote: >> If after developing for your favorite open source project for years >> the company "sponsoring" that project decided tomorrow that it was >> merging with another project and you would n

Re: [slightly OT] rpm Vs deb [Was: Re: Moblin is dead, Fedora on netbooks?]

2010-02-16 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:08 AM, steve wrote: > Hi, > > On 02/16/2010 02:58 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >>>  (1) Curious about why you say Moblin is dead? I missed the announcement! >>> >>>  (2) I'm writing this on a EeePC 1000HA (1GB, 160GB - but I'm using less >>>  than 20G) running F12 very nicely. >>

Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-09 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Tom H wrote: > Blacklisting ipv6 may not be enough to disable it completely; ipv6 can > still be loaded with insmod/modprobe. > > If you add > install ipv6 /bin/true > to the blacklist entry, it will not load at all. I think insmod will still load it even in that

Re: Stoopid script failure

2010-02-06 Thread inode0
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Can anyone explain why this doesn't work? I've been writing shell > scripts on and off for several decades and I can't see what's going on > here. Is senility setting it? > > $ cat > tst > #!/bin/sh > echo foo > $ chmod +x tst > $ ls -l