Re: bugzilla.gnome.org is closing

2020-11-14 Thread Neil Thompson
I think you have more chance of seeing the sun go nova. On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 15:54, John Mellor wrote: > Gnome bugzilla is absolutely useless, as nobody is doing any bugfixes. > I don't think that a single one of my bugs has been resolved ever since > Fedora started using Gnome. Its a very st

Kernel gcc mismatch?

2020-08-03 Thread Neil Bird
Am I misunderstanding something? I'm trying to update my local NVidia binary driver for the latest couple of kernels (5.7.10-201.fc32.x86_64 and later), but it's failing to build because: *** Failed CC version check. Bailing out! *** Recent kernels are still all being built with gcc 10.1.

Re: Reasons for staying on a old version ( Re: Prepping for upgrade)

2020-03-12 Thread Neil Thompson
Ralf, With all due respect (i.e. none) I don't think your opinion is really necessary here - you've made your feelings clear over the last long while and I have to wonder what the heck you're still doing here if you hate the whole thing so much. Surely there's another distribution that meets your

Re: Reasons for staying on a old version ( Re: Prepping for upgrade)

2020-03-12 Thread Neil Thompson
Sorted out and working properly. I have no problem admitting I'm letting other people do the hard work now. I've done my time. On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 19:36, sixpack13 wrote: > On 12.03.20 17:29, Neil Thompson wrote: > > I generally wait a month or so before upgrading, jus

Re: Reasons for staying on a old version ( Re: Prepping for upgrade)

2020-03-12 Thread Neil Thompson
I generally wait a month or so before upgrading, just to make sure that everything on the additional repos is sorted out. Having said that, apart from the occasional oddity (like this time I had to uninstall cmake-fedora before upgrading), the cli upgrade process has been pretty much flawless over

Re: Personal disputs in bugzilla (bug 1401166 )

2017-02-20 Thread Neil Thompson
At the very least, I think the package maintainer needs to be spoken to by fedora people - swearing at bug reporters on the Fedora Bugzilla is probably not "being excellent to each other". On 20 February 2017 at 10:52, Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Hi there, > > I frequently get bitten by bug *14011

Re: OT - but of relevance!! Secret Open Source - Is this legal

2016-05-04 Thread Neil Thompson
I'd be a little worried about ransomeware with wine - I remember a virus some years ago which did ugly stuff to excel files (IIRC), and it came in through wine and trashed stuff in my $HOME. All my wine stuff now is done in sandboxes. On 3 May 2016 at 18:40, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > On 16/05

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Re: no such file or directory using "-" character

2014-08-03 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 03/08/14 08:01, Angelo Moreschini scribbled ... I need to go inside a directory named ; but I am not able to do it. An addendum to Joachim's suggestion: possibly try ls -d notebook* | od -tx1 .. to look for funny alternate characters. Maybe the hyphen is some funky Unicode

Re: Fedora's audience

2013-12-08 Thread Neil Thompson
orry, have a homebrew) Neil ...aliquando et insanire iucundum est. -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Con

Re: F16 => F17 PreUpgrade Invalid Device ID Dumps to dracut Shell

2012-09-18 Thread Neil Bird
se of successful upgrades via yum, there seem to be just as many nay-sayers. In particular, I was going 14 -> 16, which entailed adding systemd *and* grub2, neither of which I trusted yum to cope with. But then, the DVD didn't either, in the event :-/ -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signat

Re: F16 => F17 PreUpgrade Invalid Device ID Dumps to dracut Shell

2012-09-17 Thread Neil Bird
ith-grub2-when-upgrading-from-fedora-14-to-fedora-16/ -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exit -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: Systemctl hates mysqld: refuses to start Fedora 16 (LONG)

2012-07-25 Thread Neil Bird
t. It also presumes you can see the signal through the noise: as I say, I've not had to strace systemd yet, so I know know what sort of spew you get when the mentioned file is accessed. It may be a red-herring error message falling out of another failure. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .sign

gdm not starting own pulseaudio - how should it?

2012-06-02 Thread Neil Bird
How should gdm be starting its own pulseaudio process? I've had an issue since upgrading from Fedora 14 to Fedora 16 in that after a while, and not on any trigger I've yet identified, my /var/log/messages starts filling up with: pulseaudio[pid]: protocol-native.c: Denied access to client

Fedora 16 rhythmbox keeps freezing

2012-05-22 Thread Neil Bird
o via Firefox). it's only rhythmbox that seems to have a big issue. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exit -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

empathy auth. error with facebook and google talk

2012-05-21 Thread Neil Bird
; a google around the subject seems to point the finger at SSl certificate problems, but they're all old references and the solutions don't seem to apply. Anyone any thoughts as to what I could look at? -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signatur

A confession

2012-05-08 Thread Neil Bird
My name is Neil, and I have found that I actually quite like GNOME Shell. I had to update my box from Fedora 14 a fortnight ago, and was dreading having to move from a GNOME (+ compiz) environment, including persuading the family. I'd updated my laptop a while ago, and was just

Fedora 16 installer kernel crash

2012-03-24 Thread Neil Bird
I finally set aside time to try to upgrade my Fedora 14 box to F16, but I'me failing at the first hurdle. Anaconda is crashing out with a kernel bug shortly after selecting the OS to update: kernel bug security/selinux/ss/services.c:655 invalid opcode [#1] SMP Pid: 855, comm: anaco

Re: GNOME Shell - colour me deeply unimpressed

2011-06-21 Thread Neil Bird
rivers on both my main work and home boxes. That unfortunately doesn't help with getting the liv CD to work so's I can “try before I buy”. > I really hope you give it a try. It's very addictive. That certainly was the intention. Just no luck yet :-/ -- [neil@fnx

GNOME Shell - colour me deeply unimpressed

2011-06-21 Thread Neil Bird
at least try it? Otherwise, it's going out the window. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exit -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://a

Re: Fedora 14: iPod not mounting

2011-06-06 Thread Neil Bird
tting that into a dri set up to share for Windows, and then copy it on from the laptop's iTunes. Bit of a PITA, but at least it works. I shall be trying a Windows VM at some point in the semi-near future, so it you have any pointers in that regard, it'd be appreciated! -- [neil@

Re: problem with fedora when booting

2011-06-04 Thread Neil
Hi, have you install a video card driver not OOS? If it is, pls edit the grub line with video default settings. 在 2011-6-4 下午9:19,"Adel ESSAFI" 写道: > Dear list > My fedora system does not boot after selecting fedora from grub. > I get a black screen with a cursor and after that, nothing happens (no

Re: Reset gnome 3?

2011-06-04 Thread Neil
Hi, maybe you can remove the .gconf/ dir of your home dir, if you do not care about other settings 在 2011-6-4 下午5:39,"Gary Waters" 写道: > On 06/03/2011 09:30 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 14:10 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: >>> On 3 June 2011 13:15, Gary Waters wrote: Is ther

Fedora 14: iPod not mounting

2011-06-03 Thread Neil Bird
xt? I shall try to find the USB IDs in the h/w database/udev/hal/whatever files to see if it's one that just needs to be added, but short of that I'm at a loss. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]

Re: F14: after kernel update, can't boot (from software RAID) [SOLVED]

2011-05-18 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 11/05/11 10:25, Neil Bird typed ... > I did a belated update of my Fedora 14 box last night, which included a > new kernel (2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE, previous was > 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE). However, upon trying to boot, it slept for a > little bit, then said so

Re: F14: after kernel update, can't boot (from software RAID)

2011-05-12 Thread Neil Bird
rom a virgin install I tried on the new box in order to get it to work. Hmm. I'll have to unpack the original initramfs (I kept a copy) and the current one to determine the differences. Where does mkinitrd get the info. it needs to put the right stuff into the initramfs? -- [ne

Re: F14: after kernel update, can't boot (from software RAID)

2011-05-12 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 11/05/11 22:18, Alain Spineux typed ... > # mkinitrd -f /boot/initramfs-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.img > 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686 > some version of mkinitrd in the past where not handling raid very well. > Good luck OK, thanks, I'll give that a try over the weeken

F14: after kernel update, can't boot (from software RAID)

2011-05-11 Thread Neil Bird
ep and then the fatal error. Non-quiet mode didn't show me anything in particular; I'll try it again later with the kernel's 'slow-boot-output' enabled (boot_delay=n). -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or direc

Mouse-wheel nudge left-right now generates key-presses, not buttons 6+7

2011-03-31 Thread Neil Bird
n # /etc/sysconfig/mouse FULLNAME="Generic - 3 Button Mouse (PS/2)" MOUSETYPE="imps2" XEMU3="no" XMOUSETYPE="IMPS/2" DEVICE=/dev/input/mice -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]#

Can't use setkeycodes any more in Fedora 14

2011-03-23 Thread Neil Bird
e0 70:- - - - - - - - e0 78:- - - - - - - - -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exit -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription op

Re: Fedora 14 - can't change pointer theme

2011-03-01 Thread Neil Bird
ot of GNOME-shell's ideas. I shall ask on the openbox list. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exit -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: Fedora 14 - can't change pointer theme

2011-02-28 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 28/02/11 14:46, mike cloaked typed ... > What I do is yum install bluecurve-cursor-theme gnome-themes-extras > oxygen-cursor-themes oxygen-icon-theme I have bluecurve, but it won't let me change to that either. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .s

Fedora 14 - can't change pointer theme

2011-02-28 Thread Neil Bird
7;ve seen mention of this elsewhere, but only WRT compiz (I use openbox), and it involved changing the system default, which I don't want to have to do. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exi

Re: sort wierdness

2010-11-05 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 05/11/10 12:54, Jakub Jelinek typed ... > Just look into your vocabulary, it is sorted similarly. In most locales > various characters are considered only in second or even later passes > through strings, when strings without those characters are otherwise > equal. OK, I can see w

sort wierdness

2010-11-05 Thread Neil Bird
I am seeing sort treat '@' specially; in particular, it wanders around the sort order depending upon the rest of the input line. Anyone have an explanation? I guess it's something to do with locale, but the input strings affecting it as well make no sense to me. $ locale LANG=en_GB.UTF-8

Re: OT: Where do I find what pkgs may enter(ed) the Fedora chain?

2010-09-28 Thread Neil Thompson
- Cheers! (Relax...have a homebrew) Neil ...aliquando et insanire iucundum est. -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: How to override /media as a mount point?

2010-09-02 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 02/09/10 11:10, Tim typed ... > If autofs is still used, I think you can play with /etc/auto.master > and /etc/auto.misc. I think that restricts my mounts to be under the autofs controlled dir. (in my case, /mnt/autofs). -- [n...@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [n...@fnx ~]# ls -l .sig

How to override /media as a mount point?

2010-09-02 Thread Neil Bird
I have a new USB drive I've set up to replace some old internal drives, and I'd like to have it automount it's partitions to where the internal drives were mounted, instead of /media/fslabel. I have to presume it's be some sort of udev config., but I can't for the life of me even see any

Fedora at South African Software Freedom Day

2010-07-20 Thread Neil Thompson
have advice for organising something like this. Unfortunately, just about everyone at our local LUGS is an UBUNTU fan :P . TIA -- Cheers! (Relax...have a homebrew) Neil ...aliquando et insanire iucundum est. -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca -- users mailing list

Re: Fedora12 keyboard choice setting is not respected.

2010-03-22 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 22/03/10 13:32, Gabriel VLASIU typed ... > Edit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi: > uk OK, thanks, I'll try that. Can I remove the other stuff in the XML? Will it still apply the /usr/share settings before the /etc ones? I'd rather only override the actual value I wa

Re: Fedora12 keyboard choice setting is not respected.

2010-03-22 Thread Neil Bird
After a bit more googling, I can see: $ lshal|grep input.xkb|sort -u input.xkb.layout = 'us' (string) input.xkb.model = 'evdev' (string) input.xkb.options = 'terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp' (string) input.xkb.rules = 'base' (string) input.xkb.variant = '' (string) Which may p

Re: Fedora12 keyboard choice setting is not respected.

2010-03-22 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 20/03/10 00:49, David Timms typed ... >> When I chose my logon, Gnome shows USA as the keyboard. I've been seeing this since upgrading to F12 as well. I've seen hints when googling that it's an issue with gdm, but I've not pinned it down. I've been having to remember to chang

Re: gnome stickynotes applet replacement

2010-03-18 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 17/03/10 10:29, Neil Bird typed ... > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594797 This bugfix, applied to the current Fedora SRPM (along with re-enabling stickynotes) fixes the crash and all other bugs I've seen mentioned. The only issue I now have with it is

Re: Fedora 12 missing docbook.cat / docbook-xsl.cat

2010-03-17 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 17/03/10 13:35, Neil Bird typed ... > I think the problem is xml-common's /etc/xml/catalog: in the CentOs 5 > and Fedora 12 systems I have access to ... Oops, I meant Fedora 11 there. CentOS and F11 seem to be OK, but my F12 not. -- [n...@fnx ~]# rm -f .s

Fedora 12 missing docbook.cat / docbook-xsl.cat

2010-03-17 Thread Neil Bird
I'm seeing builds using xsltproc (gnome-applets in this case) take an age. Investigation shows that xmlReadFile is actualyl going off to the oasis-open website to get DTDs for verification, where I believe it should be using local copies from docbook-dtds. I think the problem is xml-c

Re: gnome stickynotes applet replacement

2010-03-17 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 16/03/10 15:16, Michael Cronenworth typed ... > gnome-applets-2.28.0-2.1.fc12 with the stickynotes code from > gnome-applets-2.26.3-1.fc11 > > If you erase the contents of a note, then click on delete, it will > delete. Another crazy bug. OK, thanks for that. The following may

Re: gnome stickynotes applet replacement

2010-03-16 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 16/03/10 14:45, Michael Cronenworth typed ... > I copied in the previous version code with a custom RPM and I am happily > using sticky notes. What version are you using? My approach till now had been to grab an older SRPM (may even have been from F10 which is what I had befor

gnome stickynotes applet replacement

2010-03-16 Thread Neil Bird
Can anyone explain the deal with the GNOME sticky notes applet and its disappearance in Fedora 12? There's a blanket comment in the release notes of its being replaced by gnote, but IMHO they're different beasts. This is not helped by the fact that the so-called sticky-notes-importer pl

Re: Fedora 12: no sound after switch users

2010-03-09 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 08/03/10 17:24, Mikkel typed ... > Before you do a lot of debugging, your system is working properly > with the default setup. I don't fully understand this; with F10, I never had any problems with PAS and multiple users, to the degree that if my wife was playing music I could

Fedora 12: no sound after switch users

2010-03-08 Thread Neil Bird
Following on from another thread (in which gdm seemed to be stealing sound-ability from users), I've updated to the latest pulseuadio RPMs from updates-testing, and by situation seems to have gotten worse. (NB: this is fedora 12; it was all working swimmingly in fedora 10, from which I

Re: Why does this ALSA config no longer work in Fedora 12

2010-03-05 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 05/03/10 09:34, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 typed ... > The following ALSA config enabled the recording of played sound > It is no longer working, any ideas as to why? None at all, but I'd put money on pulse-audio. I found the following on the net a while ago (still using F10 then), an

Re: Sound lockup if gdm pulseaudio enabled

2010-03-02 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 02/03/10 12:02, Sam Varshavchik typed ... > The current pulseaudio package has a bug. There's a pending update. > The bug may or may not be your bug, so you'll have to wait until an update > is out, before checking again. OK, thanks; I'll watch out for it being updated, and then h

Sound lockup if gdm pulseaudio enabled

2010-03-02 Thread Neil Bird
I've been having various issues with pulseaudio since upgrading my F10 box to F12 recently (it was previously working fine). The core issue seems to have been worked around my my disabling gdm puleeaudio (via root's gconf-editor, as mentioned on a blog somewhere). I'm concerned, thoug