On 2022-04-27 17:34:17-0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Apr 27, 2022, at 07:25, Justin Moore
> In general, the way I suggest debugging these kinds of hangs at
> shutdown/reboot are to run:
>
> journalctl --boot=-1 --reverse
One thing to note.
I got bitten by the following quite recently:
[la
Hi,
On 2022-05-20 20:13:13+0930, Tim via users wrote:
> Do you have more than one screensaver installed?
No.
It seem to have been cleared with the updated kernel and Nvidia kmod
yesterday, kernel-5.17.9-300, I have not seen the behavior since then,
so so far all seem OK again. A bit strange...
Hi,
I have noticed a very annoying thing after an upgrade to Fedora 36. My
screen blanks after 30 seconds of idle. It is set to blank, and lock
screen, after 10 minutes. I even tried to reset these settings, but
still no luck. Never seen this before, and started after upgrade to
F36.
Anyone else
. Who knows...
But I just updated <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121331>
to reflect that the problem is still present in Fedora 21 (the bug was
filed to Fedora 20).
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To unsu
mode.html#TimeReportingAndTracking> for
some examples. I have not (yet) tested it myself though.
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, take a look at
<http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting/> and "Xorg fails
to start with "(EE) [drm] failed to open device"" regarding KMS. Could
it be something there that acts up?
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the nouveu module has been loaded.
Why Neal has problems running the latest kernel with the nouveau module
is still unclear (runs fine with me).
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What graphics card are you using?
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this issue being resolved...
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But in modern Linux distributions in the init-ram-fs-image are the giraffe,
elephant and parrot, of course.
So it seems :)
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On 12/22/14 22:07, poma wrote:
Therefore, you no longer need to re/generate an initramfs after building and
installing patched nouveau.
Isn't the nouveau module needed in initramfs? If not, why is it put
there in the first place?
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the patch mentioned in the bugzilla above is still there, it will still
have problems (for some of us).
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On 12/22/14 19:10, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 12/22/2014 10:03 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Regarding Nicks question, here I get:
$ modinfo nouveau
filename: /lib/modules/3.17.7-300.fc21.x86_64/updates/nouveau.ko
Which is the file I compiled.
I was more interested in the "version:&
get:
$ modinfo nouveau
filename: /lib/modules/3.17.7-300.fc21.x86_64/updates/nouveau.ko
Which is the file I compiled.
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On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here?
Apparently not:
"Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected."
(from
<http://rpm-software-management.github.io/dnf-plugins-core/protected_packages.html>
On 12/16/14 22:23, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Nah, still wants to remove the running kernel...
Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here?
# ll /etc/{yum,dnf}/protected.d/*
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4 Dec 9 12:36 /etc/dnf/protected.d/dnf.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8 Nov 27 15:0
nf-plugins-core-0.1.4-1.fc21.noarch
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sn't work either. Perhaps it would be better to
move this particular safeguard into dnf?
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On 12/16/14 21:34, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
How come our systems behave differently?
Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed
Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be
installed automatically if d
ems behave differently?
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Then press alt-f2 and write restart to restart the shell. This until the
maintainer of this extension updates it.
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faster boot
time. I remember the often long and winding discussions on whether this
materialized or not...
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thread most likely will be handled in
the same manner. And that this fact makes a discussion about this new
feature on-topic for this list. And not off-topic as Rahul states.That
is all...
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y a solution for that.
It was, in the beginning. It then started to take over more and more
other functions.
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dressed, even
on on a users list. Users use Fedora too, you know :) and might have
usable (users) views on the subject.
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mentioned before...
>But I can not see that discussing Fedora users view on new features of
systemd on the systemd mailing lists will lead to any good...
Why wouldn't it?
That list is specific for systemd, not Fedora and the Fedora users view
on systemd.
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mailing lists will lead to any good...
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On 12/01/14 15:50, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so
far? What says that this "component" will not be adopted by fedora?
Look up feature pages to unders
On 12/01/14 02:31, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 11/18/14 04:20, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
user mailing list of a distribution which doesn't even use the
component
at all yet.
Well, how long do you
a, and probably this will also do so. I.e., it might not be here
yet, but it is on the door step. And discussions about this is a good
thing, even on this list.
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On 10/07/14 17:58, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 07 October 2014, Lars E. Pettersson sent:
192.168.10.3 and 198.168.20.5 are on two different networks.
That depends on network configuration (where your netmask is), and what
hardware (if any) is between devices.
Yes, but 192.168.10.3 and
(depending on if
ctrl-alt-bs is configured or not).
Are you able to login fully when this happens? Are you using Gnome?
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l not work.
I would advice you to setup the IP-numbers so that all units that are
physically connected together (via cable or switch) are on the same
network. So change the IP-number of 192.168.10.3, into 198.168.20.3 (if
that number is not used by any other device), and it should work.
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lD is stopped.
...
IPADDR="198.168.20.5"
...
Is this significant? I can ping 198.168.20.5 successfully, but Wireshark does
not see any packets.
Can you ping the HDTV tuner device from your 198.168.20.5 computer?
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re to send the data packets.
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nt to connect to other computers outside of this subnet, you need a
gateway. You probably also need a gateway to do name resolution,
depending on how you have setup that.
Can you ping computers on your subnet? Using their IP-address?
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lines you are missing are probably above
the Sep 21 line.
I have net (yet) bothered to file a bug on it (or search for bugs about
it), but perhaps it is time to do so. The journal should not do this.
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annoying. Look at the syslog files, to see if they contain old log entries.
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ist of all bash'es
<http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=1088>
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status some_service' take way too long time due to the
sluggish journal.
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On 08/31/14 21:27, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
...
Yes, that was my intention, raid1 for /boot and raid6 for / Accidentally I set
/boot also to raid6 :) But that can be fixed.
Or do n-way raid1, which will cause /boot to have as many copies
> 29 aug 2014 kl. 00:12 skrev Robert Moskowitz
> Add this to ifcfg-eth0:0 and no change.
>
> :(
Ok. Another difference I see is that my interface is named :1, i.e. in my case
wan:1 Not sure if that makes any difference though, was years since I set this
up :)
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="255.255.255.240"
I think you need to add
ONPARENT=yes
to make it start when its parent does.
That is at least the major difference I see comparing to my setup.
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partition on all disks, but anaconda seem to only install it on one of
the disks (i.e. I want the exactly identical partition tables on all disks).
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a bug report/RFE on this. Is there anyone out there
that have done this, from anaconda? I.e. creating raid partitions and
BIOS boot partitions on ALL disks? If so, how did you do it?
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C3 (GF106)GeForce GT (440, 445M, 545, 555M, 630M, 635M), GTS
450, GTX 460M, Quadro 2000 (D), 2000M
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unning kernel, so what is your point? :)
feel free to reopen the bug too, otherwise it might get off the radar.
How do I, as a normal user, re-open a bug? Can not see any way more than
cloning it. Is that how it's supposed to be done? (Google gave no
conclusive answer)
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make a CC to that bug.
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On 02/28/2014 12:54 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote:
What is the purpose of this log duplication? When systemd has its own
logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their
contents to syslogd
. To read the
journal you need journalctl, or similar program, as the journal is
binary and not readily readable.
Another reason is that there still exist programs/daemons/etc. that rely
on the logs in /var/log.
If you do not like syslogd, well F20 does not ship it anymore...
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e log (as long as you have syslogd
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ick in the upper right corner, and
then click on the icon with a wrench and a screw driver), chose
'Details', there you will find 'Default Applications'
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Do not name your interfaces eth0, eth1, etc if you have several
interfaces, that will create problems depending on when the different
network interfaces are started, use names as wan, lan, etc. instead.
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at.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047719> bug about the
journal being extremely slow.
What numbers do you get for:
time journalctl | grep xyz
journalctl --disk-usage
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pise mail is no reason to remove the MTA when applications
actually rely on an existing MTA. You can not generalize your way of
doing things to the entire community. The mail mechanics is there for a
reason, and has proven its validity for decades.
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On 01/05/2014 09:25 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
I use nfs from Windows 8.1 to Fedora (filestore\backup etc..)
As well as between Fedora Boxes
Have you tried sshfs? We moved to that at work years ago (to share
between Linux boxes, but windows applications for sshfs also exist).
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g sshd does not interfere with other applications
"notification" systems.
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stem daemons. An entirely different creature.
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he subject, and you will see.
Please read the question you quoted, the first one in this mail. Try to
understand what it says.
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On 01/04/2014 03:13 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:41 PM, "Lars E. Pettersson" wrote:
On 01/04/2014 02:40 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
What I fail to follow is, why break the existing mechanism *before* we
have these other future notification mechanisms ready?
*Exactly
reads the file
/etc/sysconfig/iptables to setup the firewall. The command iptables-save
would give you a starting point for that file.
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On 01/04/2014 02:40 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
What I fail to follow is, why break the existing mechanism *before* we
have these other future notification mechanisms ready?
*Exactly*
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formed.
Am I really that bad at explaining what the problem is?
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On 01/03/2014 08:32 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Rahul, as long as we have applications that do send mail, we need an MTA to
take care of these mails, or else they are totally lost. Or at least let
those applications have a requirement of a MTA so
ra work)
OK, count me in... Could be a good way to get to know that system a bit
better.
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On 01/03/2014 06:31 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
On Jan 3, 2014 4:08 AM, "Lars E. Pettersson" mailto:l...@homer.se>> wrote:
>
> On 01/03/2014 05:07 AM, Pete Travis wrote:
>>
>> I think there was some misunderstanding here. If you can't find your
>>
your script did not output any
data this time?
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On 01/03/2014 04:13 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
Any idea what I need to do to get my cron email restored?
Is it an upgraded system or a new install? If it is a new install
sendmail is no longer installed, so you have to install it yourself.
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bugs cannot be fixed.
I will make a fresh install in VirtualBox and take a closer look.
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't use the local system
to receive emails. And even if I do, it's not going to send those emails to
gmail is it?
OK, the documentation should have let you now how to set up
/etc/aliases, *and* also inform you to set up the mail client of your
choice to receive that mail.
ipates in a discussion says nothing about the majority.
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applications have a requirement of a MTA so that the MTA is
installed when those applications are installed on the system.
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nfigure
an MTA.
I have to as long as some applications use that path to send messages to
me. The same thing goes for all others installing these applications.
Without a MTA these messages are lost in bit space.
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On 01/03/2014 06:17 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
On 26 December 2013 20:00, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
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As the App Menu works bad when using multiple windows and focus follow
mouse, this should perhaps be a part of gnome-tweak-tool (a tick box there
to chose App Menu or not), so one doesn't
removed. That would involve both adding to the
journal, and notify the user, and/or other actions. Shouldn't that have
been addressed *before* removing the MTA?
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al account that often. So how do we inform the user then?
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er be informed that the
content is in the journal and should (perhaps) be acted upon?
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ing and got rid of it
by default.
This has nothing to do with modernity at all.
And guess what! You can still install it and get the behavior you want.
That's not the point. It's about sane defaults so that potential
important message are not lost.
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http:
rs use cron?
You do not have cron installed and running?
I don't use cron. Probably in five years or so we can have a conversation on it
not being installed by default.
Don't think so.
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also be sent to syslog by using the -s option."
The problem with that option is that the output from cron can
voluminous, and voluminous messages are better suited as mails.
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for these messages. And I found a pile of utterly useless crap being
generated; and without notification, or a good reason for them to be generated
in the first place. I'm glad it's gone by default.
Please read my proposal again, it addresses the issues you are mentioning.
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cron, that is not a part of the journal output.
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On 01/02/2014 08:09 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Lars E. Pettersson" wrote:
It delivers mail, so it certainly does something. It is not an idle process
doing nothing.
I've never seen it do anything since I started using Fedora, except cause
lo
On 01/02/2014 07:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:34 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
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Important mail to/from root is not an "edge case".
So important that by default root isn't informed of these messages?
Huh?
With sendmail I was not informed of any suc
t: ' to it, run newaliases (or something in the line of my
proposal earlier), and to setup the mail client to read that mail. Not
more esoteric than to setup ordinary mail.
Not having a MTA leads to lost mail, this has to be addressed and solved
before the MTA is removed.
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rtant mail to/from root is not an "edge case".
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gh the journal to output the last lines from the log.
This may all be a bug (I filed bug 1047719 on this).
Anyhow, thanks for the information about options etc. Sadly the man page
is somewhat sparse on examples which makes the transition to journalctl
a bit hard.
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this given the importance of the kernel.
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nts. What is needed is an easy way to get the mail to a suitable
user. That is where my proposal comes in.
So, in my opinion, removing a local delivery MTA was wrong. It should be
added again, and something in the line of my proposal should be added so
that root mail is sent to a suit
ng.
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