Re: DNF is a time waster

2016-03-30 Thread Jan Zelený
On 30. 3. 2016 at 06:35:19, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 03/29/2016 07:36 PM, CLOSE Dave wrote: > > If I run something like, "dnf -y install ", and is already > > installed, DNF gives a response like the following. > > > > Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:02 ago on ... > > Pack

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-10 Thread Jan Zelený
On 10. 12. 2015 at 22:21:42, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 09 December 2015, Ralf Corsepius sent: > > My view: The only thing that was wrong with yum, was it being > > work-in-progress, when its maintainer passed away. > > One hopes that something as central as the updating/installing tool >

Re: dnf group thinks a group is installed but its packages have already been removed

2015-11-17 Thread Jan Zelený
Hey, > 1. Why does `dnf group remove lxqt` wants to remove everything on my system? > Most of it is not explicitely installed by me > https://paste.fedoraproject.org/291300/ That might be the reason. Dnf removes parts of the system that are marked as "installed only as a dependency" as soon as t

Re: f21 :: dnf-yum conflicts with yum

2015-11-03 Thread Jan Zelený
On 3. 11. 2015 at 10:49:43, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: > Hi! I am trying that, before f23 is out, to get used with dnf. > As such i am trying to install dnf but also to install the dnf-yum layer > (just in case my reflexes will kick in :) ) but i have an conflict with > yum .. and if i try to remove yu

Re: dnf install custom rpm - dnf upgrade

2015-10-12 Thread Jan Zelený
On 12. 10. 2015 at 12:04:00, arnaud gaboury wrote: > I built my own .rpm's for a meta package. These packages are only a > modification of an existing Fedora package. Before I installed my own > packages, I first removed the original version from Fedora. > > Thus now $ dnf list installed return co

Re: dnf: not found deltainfo and updateinfo

2015-08-20 Thread Jan Zelený
On 20. 8. 2015 at 08:42:31, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I used the -v option and saw all these messages for all of my repos > (Fedora, Fedora-update, Adobe, rpmfusion free and non-free). I kind of > get the no deltainfo message. I did not download the delta rpms to my > local repos for Fedora and Fe

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-22 Thread Jan Zelený
On 21. 7. 2015 at 20:33:27, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 02:10:10AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > I'm sorry but "clean all" is not necessary at all! "clean metadata" or > > "clean expire-cache" should be sufficient. > > You don't even need to do that. Just use the --refresh flag

Re: Thank God for yum-deprecated :-)

2015-07-20 Thread Jan Zelený
On 20. 7. 2015 at 10:12:35, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 16:02:11 +0200, > > Jan Zelený wrote: > >On 20. 7. 2015 at 08:57:41, kevin martin wrote: > >> I'm with Jan...Thank God for yum-deprecated. Been trying to get systemd > >>

Re: Thank God for yum-deprecated :-)

2015-07-20 Thread Jan Zelený
On 20. 7. 2015 at 08:57:41, kevin martin wrote: > I'm with Jan...Thank God for yum-deprecated. Been trying to get systemd > updated with DNF forever and it's been throwing an error about > fedora-release..yum-deprecated has it handled. The whole skip-broken part > of yum makes it so much easier t

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-20 Thread Jan Zelený
On 20. 7. 2015 at 09:43:45, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 09:00:16AM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > > > > This is weird. > > > > Software Updates on the Control Panel says that there are 39 u

Re: Thank God for yum-deprecated :-)

2015-07-20 Thread Jan Zelený
On 18. 7. 2015 at 17:59:49, Tom Horsley wrote: > I see that dnf, in its infinite wisdom, has classified > ignoring packages it can't find as a bug, therefore > if you say > > dnf install `cat f22-missing.txt` > > to install as much stuff as possible in your new > f22 as you used to have in f20, i

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

2015-07-20 Thread Jan Zelený
On 19. 7. 2015 at 20:39:36, Javier Perez wrote: > Ok, just did a dnf clean all , and the dnf update and the updates showed up > > Weird. > > JP > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Javier Perez wrote: > > This is weird. > > Software Updates on the Control Panel says that there are 39 updates >

Re: dnf has no command to check all

2015-05-27 Thread Jan Zelený
On 27. 5. 2015 at 20:21:08, jd1008 wrote: > On 05/27/2015 08:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 08:02:55PM -0600, jd1008 wrote: > >> I had to use > >> # /bin/yum-deprecated check all > >> Yum command has been deprecated, use dnf instead. > >> See 'man dnf' and 'man yum2dnf' f

Re: F22 - DNF migrate

2015-05-27 Thread Jan Zelený
On 27. 5. 2015 at 12:33:19, antonio montagnani wrote: > if I issue the command dnf-2 migrate I get: > > > vim-minimal-7.4.475-2.fc20.x86_64 found in DNFDB; skipping > vlc-2.1.5-1.fc20.x86_64 found in DNFDB; skipping > vino-3.14.2-1.fc21.x86_64 found in DNFDB; skipping > vim-common-7.4.027-2.f

Re: Fedora 22 beta -

2015-05-27 Thread Jan Zelený
On 27. 5. 2015 at 03:56:11, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > Do I need to do anything more with this Fedora 22 beta system? > > # dnf update > Last metadata expiration check performed 0:18:24 ago on Wed May 27 > 03:30:41 2015. > Dependencies resolved. > Nothing to do. > Complete! > > Th

Re: dnf and "RPMDB altered outside of yum"

2015-04-07 Thread Jan Zelený
On 7. 4. 2015 at 17:40:06, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 09:30:21 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > You can remove yum and install dnf-yum package which provides an alias but > > I wouldn't really recommend that for Fedora 21 yet > > Even with Fedora 22 there are explicit dependencie

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 12. 2014 at 22:10:21, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34:30 AM Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Question: why do stuff like createrepo, fedup, livecd-tools, etc still > > depend on yum? Should they be made to depend on dnf now, in which case, > > should there be a bug report

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 12. 2014 at 10:34:30, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in > favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is so > ingrained in me, I was trying to get rid of it from the system so that not > having it avail

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 12. 2014 at 13:03:54, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Ranjan Maitra > > wrote: > > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going away in > > favor dnf, I was trying to get used to the latter. Because the former is > > so ingrained in me, I was tr

Re: getting rid of yum

2014-12-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 15. 12. 2014 at 17:23:48, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:46:53 + > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 10:34 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Because (from what I understood, perhaps incorrectly) yum is going > > > away in favor dnf, I was trying to get

Re: f21 runs dnf check on every shell startup

2014-12-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 12. 2014 at 18:52:29, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > > I'm sorry, I'm confused. > > The problem is that it seems with every shell startup, some dnf command is > > run (perhaps check-update?). I did not run the command. I don't want it > > to run

Re: f21 runs dnf check on every shell startup

2014-12-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 12. 2014 at 07:06:52, Neal Becker wrote: > After fedup f20->f21, on every shell startup I see: > > Repository google-chrome is listed more than once in the configuration > > I don't want this check run on each shell start. For one thing, I believe > it is causing sometimes long delays. Ho

Re: request for DNF package

2014-09-03 Thread Jan Zelený
On 3. 9. 2014 at 10:54:07, Balint Szigeti wrote: > hello > > I don't know where I should send this email but I'd like to ask the DNF > developer to the DNF application examine the proxy settings and if the > user run the DNF command with debug option list the all steps instead of > yum. > > I jus

Re: wanted: performance laptop, no windoze tax

2014-07-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 16. 7. 2014 at 11:07:06, Neal Becker wrote: > Sorry, I know this subject has been written about before. But google shows > mostly 5 year old info. > > What are some recommendations for a relatively high performance laptop that > works well on linux, and without paying windoze tax? Just yester

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 16. 6. 2014 at 09:19:21, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > > ad b) how many times have this feature actually saved you from erasing the > > kernel? In 10+ years using Linux I have never managed to do this > >

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 16. 6. 2014 at 07:49:55, David wrote: > On 6/16/2014 7:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 06/16/14 19:00, David wrote: > >> On 6/16/2014 1:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> On 06/16/14 12:27, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > By the way, 'dnf erase kernel' scares me :-O > >>> > >>> FWIW, it has been sugges

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-16 Thread Jan Zelený
On 14. 6. 2014 at 11:05:03, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 06/14/2014 12:05 AM, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: > > Tom Horsley wrote, On 06/07/2014 03:57 PM (EEST): > >> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 07:47:37 -0500 > >> > >> Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >>> For one thing the depsolving algorithm used by yum is slow. >

Re: dnf v.s. yum

2014-06-15 Thread Jan Zelený
On 16. 6. 2014 at 07:19:45, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 06/15/2014 11:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 06/15/14 19:02, Tim wrote: > >> On Sun, 2014-06-15 at 18:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> OK I read FAQ. > >>> > >>> http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/user_faq.html#why-do-i-get-different-res

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-10 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 6. 2014 at 15:28:44, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 09:45 +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: > > On 6. 6. 2014 at 16:56:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 14:46 +0200, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > > > > Hello, > >

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-10 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 6. 2014 at 15:17:47, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 06/09/2014 12:48 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > >> Nope, yumex has only a very little to do with yum, it's a separate > >> project. > >> You can us

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-10 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 6. 2014 at 17:12:37, Andre Robatino wrote: > Jonathan Dieter lesbg.com> writes: > > > The list of missing yum options is both outdated and incomplete. For > > > example, it's missing "includepkgs" (a repository option), for people > > > who > > > need to access specific packages from non-Fed

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 6. 2014 at 16:41:59, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/09/2014 02:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:59:15AM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote: > >>> till October) will give folks plenty of time to hone their dnf skills. > >>> IMO, for many

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 6. 2014 at 00:58:31, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/09/2014 12:48 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > > Nope, yumex has only a very little to do with yum, it's a separate > > project. > > You can use PackageKit or the GNOME software center which will both soon > > use the sa

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 8. 6. 2014 at 09:45:44, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/06/14 20:46, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > > The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're > > wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they > > have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 7. 6. 2014 at 13:08:42, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Sudhir Khanger wrote: > >> The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're > > > > wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have > > got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 6. 6. 2014 at 09:20:33, Luke Nath wrote: > > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 14:46:23 +0200 > > From: akozu...@redhat.com > > To: de...@lists.fedoraproject.org; yum-de...@lists.baseurl.org; > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Save everybody some surprises in > > Fedora 22! > > > > Hello, > > > >

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 6. 6. 2014 at 16:56:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 14:46 +0200, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > > Hello, > > > > The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're > > wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they > > have got recently

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-06 Thread Jan Zelený
On 6. 6. 2014 at 09:33:03, Tom Horsley wrote: > > The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're > > wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they > > have got recently in Yum? > > Can we vote for features we want removed, like multilib? (Actually I g

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Jan Zelený
On 13. 3. 2014 at 10:04:04, Mark Haney wrote: > On 03/13/14 09:52, Tethys wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jan Zelený > > > > wrote: > >> The metadata are quite large and downloading them every single > >> time is time consuming. > > >

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Jan Zelený
On 13. 3. 2014 at 13:41:48, Tethys wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Mark Haney wrote: > > So, let me get this straight, DNF doesn't check the (online?) repo > > metadata when I call 'sudo dnf update'? That's how I'm reading this. > > > > If that's true, why the devil not? > > At a gu

Re: F20 Updates or yum broken?

2014-02-19 Thread Jan Zelený
On 19. 2. 2014 at 12:57:29, Dan Irwin wrote: > Hello Joe, > > Thanks for the tip. I had forgotten about package-cleanup. However, running > that shows some more issues: > > Is this ok [y/N]: y > Downloading packages: > Running transaction check > ERROR with transaction check vs depsolve: > libvir

Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 1. 2014 at 14:31:09, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500 > "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > > Apologies wrog link > > http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-differen > t-output/ Just a note here: if you want the MD to be synced

Re: announcement --- planned Yum replacement now ready for user testing

2014-01-02 Thread Jan Zelený
On 2. 1. 2014 at 13:32:23, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Ales Kozumplik wrote: > > On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora > > users in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that > > aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22. > > Yum works perfectly well, in

Re: missing files during yum cleanup phase

2013-11-07 Thread Jan Zelený
On 2. 11. 2013 at 09:30:56, Les Howell wrote: > Hi everyone, > I got a few messages during my latest yum update. They indicate that > some files were not present, since it occurred during the cleanup phase > I suspect it is not important, but thought I should check just in > case... > > Her

Re: yum grouplist does not show all groups

2013-09-30 Thread Jan Zelený
On 29. 9. 2013 at 18:02:57, Özgür wrote: > And why do hidden groups exist at all? I cannot see any point of hiding > "Development Libraries". Is it very infrequently used? No. Is it > dangerous? No. So what is the point? My guess is that the group is not intended (for whatever reason) to be insta

Re: Yum: a suggestion

2013-09-02 Thread Jan Zelený
On 30. 8. 2013 at 18:18:54, poma wrote: > On 30.08.2013 10:52, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 10:48:45 +0200 > > > > Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> Yum only tells me the sites it has _failed_ to download from. > >> Wouldn't it be nice if it also told us which sites _succeed_? > >> I'd li