my last thread about journald

2014-10-07 Thread Balint Szigeti
log.html Everyone who reads this can decide wants to use the 'proper awesome systemd-journal' or just tolerates it on his system because it must to be on it (for reason just search in the archive). Balint -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscript

Re: case study - journalctl - where is logger output

2014-09-17 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 17:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Balint Szigeti wrote: > > > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:52 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Balint Szigeti >> > wrote: > >> > >>

Re: case study - journalctl - where is logger output

2014-09-16 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 09:52 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Balint Szigeti > wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:16 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Balint Szigeti > > wrote: > > > > > >&g

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-14 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 17:23 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > 2014-09-14 17:06 GMT+03:00 Balint Szigeti : > > WTF?*** sorry about inappropriate language. I've just upset a little bit. > > Why does a deamon have a config file if it doesn't read it? > > journalct

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-14 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:52 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > 2014-09-14 16:36 GMT+03:00 Balint Szigeti : > > On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:22 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > > > > 2014-09-14 15:22 GMT+03:00 Timothy Murphy : > > I have already done it that you wro

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-14 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:22 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > 2014-09-14 15:22 GMT+03:00 Timothy Murphy : > > As a matter of interest, I changed Storage to volatile > > and re-booted my laptop, > > but this did not seem to have any effect - > > journalctl still gives over 500,000 lines (I stopped t

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-14 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 14:22 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > 2014-09-14 14:01 GMT+03:00 Timothy Murphy : > > Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > > > >> It is not slow if you have little journal content, as you would in > >> cases where you prefer plain-text logs and set journald to not keep a > >> persisten

Re: case study - journalctl - where is logger output

2014-09-13 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:16 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Balint Szigeti wrote: > > > > today I installed the rsyslog and enable it then disabled (then masked) > > systemd-journal-flush, systemd-journald services. Plus I disabled > > syst

Re: case study - journalctl - where is logger output

2014-09-12 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 16:16 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Balint Szigeti wrote: > > > > today I installed the rsyslog and enable it then disabled (then masked) > > systemd-journal-flush, systemd-journald services. Plus I disabled > > syst

Re: case study - journalctl - where is logger output

2014-09-11 Thread Balint Szigeti
okay, I figured it out. If the journalctl doesn't run neither rsyslog nor journalctl (last one is obvious) don't get anything. after I started the journalctl the logger output appeared in journalclt and tail /var/log/messages output. Balint On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 19:04 +0100, Bali

case study - journalctl - where is logger output

2014-09-11 Thread Balint Szigeti
hello today I installed the rsyslog and enable it then disabled (then masked) systemd-journal-flush, systemd-journald services. Plus I disabled systemd-journald.socket as well. It broke my system. After I closed the sudo session I could gain root access plus I couldn't start any program only forks

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Balint Szigeti
t; topic "New Group Calls For Boycotting SystemD". > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Balint Szigeti > wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100 >

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100 > Balint Szigeti wrote: > > > What do you think guyes? > > I think these guys have a better plan: > > http://boycottsystemd.org/ Thank you, that is a good site. I hope head o

is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Balint Szigeti
ial and they will just use the community code (the US lawyers can reach anything) and they will have a perfect code and get billions of money. Maybe I have watched too many films but all steps lead to the same direction. Balint -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

request for DNF package

2014-09-03 Thread Balint Szigeti
n't do. So I'd like to ask the DNF developer, DNF on the latest debug level tell everything what it does like, reading this config file, reading env variable, setting these variable, using these proxy, configs, restrictions etc If someone know how I can reach them please answer to me

Re: simple DVD read error - ALL DVD

2014-08-04 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 02:19 +0930, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 28 July 2014, Balint Szigeti sent: > > I have two DVDs which contains AVI files. I can't read it in my fedora > > box but it works in gentoo and windows. > > > > I used the DVD drive and the DV

simple DVD read error - ALL DVD

2014-07-28 Thread Balint Szigeti
hello I have two DVDs which contains AVI files. I can't read it in my fedora box but it works in gentoo and windows. I used the DVD drive and the DVDs before so I don't think it is a HW problem. I got this in dmesg: [ 7892.555826] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Unhandled sense code [ 7892.555834] sr 1:0:0:0:

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Balint Szigeti
> A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration > files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is > broken by design. pls don't start it. I could find anything else. The only reason I've found systemd because I worked with it nowadays. -- users

systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Balint Szigeti
d(5) for information about the configuration of this service. SEE ALSO systemd(1), sysctl.d(5), sysctl(8), I think, the config files should store in /etc instead of everywhere else. The chroot applications are exceptions. It cause we MUST mount /usr in / (root) partion. Balint -- users

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-13 Thread Balint Szigeti
as I know, systemd will start the *.service first! and then the sysvinit scripts. I think that can cause the problem. Maybe if you create a foo.service which point to your sysvinit script and set the right order in dependency list. maybe, I'm just guessing. On Sun, 2014-07-13 at 10:57 +10

Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

2014-07-13 Thread Balint Szigeti
y want they system. But have you tried your issue on a 'fresh install' system? it could be compatibility issue between systemd and sysvinit script. Balint -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun

2014-07-11 Thread Balint Szigeti
7) > > * Tue Jul 01 2014 Justin M. Forbes 3.15.3-200 > - Linux v3.15.3 > - drm/i915: Fix backlight regression caused by misconfigured VBT > > * Tue Jul 01 2014 Hans de Goede > - Add min/max quirk for the ThinkPad Edge E531 touchpad (rhbz#1114768) > Balint On Fri, 2

Re: removing plymouth

2014-07-11 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 14:10 +0200, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > Balint Szigeti writes: > > > On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 06:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > > > > Ed Greshko writes: > > ... > > >> Some kind of a hardware-dependent race conditi

Re: Cinnamon / tint2

2014-07-11 Thread Balint Szigeti
run 'yum history undo '. Be aware it will probably roll-back lot's of packages but then you can install the right ones again. Or you can downgrade but the downgrade is from 4.x -> 3.x more info man rpm man yum Balint -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: removing plymouth

2014-07-11 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 06:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Ed Greshko writes: > > > On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote: > > > Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I > > know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction

Re: removing plymouth

2014-07-10 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 13:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/11/14 13:11, Balint Szigeti wrote: > > Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I > > know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction during boot. > > Does it mean, if I remove

removing plymouth

2014-07-10 Thread Balint Szigeti
hello Can somebody tell me what would happen if I remove Plymouth packages? I know it handles the boot screen and the user interaction during boot. Does it mean, if I remove this package I can't examine what happened during the boot or I can not boot? Balint -- users mailing list

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-10 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 14:09 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: > On 10.7.2014 13:30, Balint Szigeti wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 13:35 +0200, lee wrote: > > > > > David Benfell writes: > > > > > > > I guess the two questio

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-10 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 13:35 +0200, lee wrote: > David Benfell writes: > > > I guess the two questions I'm reaching for are: > > > > 1) Is systemd conceptually broken, just a really bad idea from the > > start? Some people say yes, and some of them argue well. > > So far, I've seen only argument

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-05 Thread Balint Szigeti
n that I wanted to reach, make the system(s) better if we don't get rid of it. Balint -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-05 Thread Balint Szigeti
ournald bug like that last year sometime in > rawhide... but it was pretty quickly fixed and there was a workaround > the same day I think. > > kevin but is it impossible to configure systemd to save logfile into text files instead of journal file? or we should have syslog serv

Re: why do we use systemd?

2014-07-05 Thread Balint
On 05/07/2014 11:47, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 10:20:16 +0100 Balint wrote: I really do NOT understand Mainly because it falls into the "new and therefore better" rabbit hole fedora (and it seems all other linux distros) is dedicated to jumping down. It really does

lxde

2014-07-05 Thread Balint
hello all, does somebody tell me, lxde can handle the dual monitor? I mean, the DE will give 2 desktop instead of monitor extend or duplication. So, if I press, ctrl-tab on 1 monitor it will show the windows in that screen and the other will be independent. Balint -- users mailing list

why do we use systemd?

2014-07-05 Thread Balint
e all system is fd. Why did we choose it? I really do NOT understand Balint -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-co