Re: What is DNF Check-upgrade Actually Doing

2024-11-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-12-01 at 10:04 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > The issue with this is what you have shown is what Thunderbird used > to always show to identify who said what which I find extremely > useful to understand response history and the context of replies. Again, look through your preferences

Re: Web site issue

2024-11-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 16:29 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I can not get this web site to render properly > on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five > web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). > > https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water > Look at the source code. Ma

Re: Web site issue

2024-11-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/30/24 16:40, Stephen Morris wrote: On 1/12/24 11:29, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I can not get this web site to render properly on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water But,

Re: Web site issue

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/24 11:29, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I can not get this web site to render properly on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water But, I can with qemu-kvm Tiny-11 (Stripped Wind

Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/24 11:08, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 5:27 PM Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/24 23:27, Bob Marčan via users wrote: [...] The python way to isolate from the OS is to use the venv machinary. I'm guessing from your response you are not familiar with it. How to build rpm:

Web site issue

2024-11-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I can not get this web site to render properly on my Fedora 41 host computer on any of the five web browsers I tried (cache was cleared). https://www.tiyproducts.com/products/basic-tiy-water But, I can with qemu-kvm Tiny-11 (Stripped Windows 11) operated through my FC41 host's firewall

Re: What is DNF Check-upgrade Actually Doing

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/24 10:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/30/24 3:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 1/12/24 10:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/30/24 3:04 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/24 20:05, Tim via users wrote: As a comparison, have a look through your menus for "view source" and see what a message look

Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion

2024-11-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 5:27 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > > On 30/11/24 23:27, Bob Marčan via users wrote: > [...] > The python way to isolate from the OS is to use the venv machinary. > I'm guessing from your response you are not familiar with it. > > How to build rpm: > > python setup.py bdist_rpm

Grub not Generating Certain Menu Entries Properly

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
HI,     Below is the output produced by Grubby and grub2-mkconfig that shows it is not correctly generating the entry for Ubuntu. Unlike the entry for Windows the process has not generated the Ubuntu entry to boot via the UEFI partition it seems to be booting directly off the hard disk, which

Re: What is DNF Check-upgrade Actually Doing

2024-11-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/30/24 3:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 1/12/24 10:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/30/24 3:04 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/24 20:05, Tim via users wrote: As a comparison, have a look through your menus for "view source" and see what a message looks like before Thunderbird converts it

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: On 11/30/24 2:12 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Before doing that I booted the XFCE spin on the first laptop and it had the same problem. This ruled out a firnware difference as the issue. Then I burned the workstation image and booted it. No issues. I checked, and both the

Re: What is DNF Check-upgrade Actually Doing

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 1/12/24 10:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/30/24 3:04 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/24 20:05, Tim via users wrote: As a comparison, have a look through your menus for "view source" and see what a message looks like before Thunderbird converts it into its own HTML rendition of the message (

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Geoffrey Leach writes: On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:12:16 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Samuel Sieb writes: > > > The XFCE image shouldn't have a different kernel than the > > workstation image, but can you try the workstation image to see if > > it has the same problem for you? > > Before doing th

Re: What is DNF Check-upgrade Actually Doing

2024-11-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/30/24 3:04 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/11/24 20:05, Tim via users wrote: As a comparison, have a look through your menus for "view source" and see what a message looks like before Thunderbird converts it into its own HTML rendition of the message (regardless of whether it was HTML or p

Re: DNF Upgrade Query

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 30/11/24 20:14, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 10:09 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: I've checked the fedora updates repo and the source repo is indeed not enable, so it wasn't that. I thought I might have had it enabled as in the past I've been in a situation where having the kernel

Re: What is DNF Check-upgrade Actually Doing

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 30/11/24 20:05, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 11:40 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: What I was looking for as a signature was something like I specify at the bottom of my mails, which seems to be missing from a lot of other people's mails. Ah! PGP... Few do that (that I see). Fo

Re: What is DNF Check-upgrade Actually Doing

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 30/11/24 13:27, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/29/24 4:40 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 28/11/24 20:54, Tim via users wrote: Stephen Morris wrote: Just an off topic question, I've noticed recently that when I preview a mail from this list I no longer get any indication of who the email came from i

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/30/24 2:12 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Samuel Sieb writes: The XFCE image shouldn't have a different kernel than the workstation image, but can you try the workstation image to see if it has the same problem for you? Before doing that I booted the XFCE spin on the first laptop and it ha

Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion

2024-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris
On 30/11/24 23:27, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:33:30 + "Barry Scott" wrote: On 30 Nov 2024, at 09:22, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 10:59 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: With reference to the Fedora environment, if a package is required to be installed, wo

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:12:16 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Samuel Sieb writes: > > > The XFCE image shouldn't have a different kernel than the > > workstation image, but can you try the workstation image to see if > > it has the same problem for you? > > Before doing that I booted the XFCE s

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: The XFCE image shouldn't have a different kernel than the workstation image, but can you try the workstation image to see if it has the same problem for you? Before doing that I booted the XFCE spin on the first laptop and it had the same problem. This ruled out a firn

Re: F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/30/24 8:31 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I've been using a Framework 16 laptop that was originally installed with F40 and updated to F41 (XFCE Spin), without any issues. I just ran into a hillarious installation issue, posting it here in order to feed the search engines. I just received a

F41 installation issue on Framework 16 laptop: stuck keyboard input (solution)

2024-11-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I've been using a Framework 16 laptop that was originally installed with F40 and updated to F41 (XFCE Spin), without any issues. I just ran into a hillarious installation issue, posting it here in order to feed the search engines. I just received a second Framework 16, so I fed the F41 XFCE

Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion

2024-11-30 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 1:02 AM Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Nov 2024, Tim via users wrote: > > > Person comes along with my THIS won't do THAT. You spend some time > > diagnosing, then downloading a few months worth of updates that they > > never did (wh

Re: DNF Selinux Upgrade Failure

2024-11-30 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 9:03 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > >>> Failed to start jobs: Failed to enqueue some jobs, see logs for > details: Invalid argument > Start with journalctl, which should tell you more about which jobs didn't start. Once you know which jobs aren't starting you can determine i

Kernel 6.12 Test Week Invitation

2024-11-30 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey All, I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 6.12 Test week is happening from 2024-12-01 to 2024-12-08. It's fairly simple, head over to the wiki [0] and read in detail about the test week and simply run the test case mentioned in[1] and enter your results. As usual, th

Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion

2024-11-30 Thread Bob Marčan via users
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:33:30 + "Barry Scott" wrote: > > On 30 Nov 2024, at 09:22, Tim via users > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 10:59 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > >> With reference to the Fedora environment, if a package is required to > >> be installed, would you recommend ins

Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion

2024-11-30 Thread Barry Scott
> On 30 Nov 2024, at 09:22, Tim via users wrote: > > On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 10:59 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: >> With reference to the Fedora environment, if a package is required to >> be installed, would you recommend installing the repository version >> or download it with pip? > > The reco

Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion

2024-11-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 10:59 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > With reference to the Fedora environment, if a package is required to > be installed, would you recommend installing the repository version > or download it with pip? The recommendation always was use your distro's packaging system if you

Re: DNF Upgrade Query

2024-11-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 10:09 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > I've checked the fedora updates repo and the source repo is indeed > not enable, so it wasn't that. > I thought I might have had it enabled as in the past I've been in a > situation where having the kernel headers installed was not good > e

Re: DNF Upgrade Query

2024-11-30 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > Dunno. I could guess that those servers are under continual heavy load > > and things might hiccup more noticeably. Stephen Morris: > I ran another dnf upgrade this morning and got the same issue with > the google-chrome repository, but also the docker and Fedora updates > repositories,

Re: What is DNF Check-upgrade Actually Doing

2024-11-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-11-30 at 11:40 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > What I was looking for as a signature was something like I specify at > the bottom of my mails, which seems to be missing from a lot of other > people's mails. Ah! PGP... Few do that (that I see). For the most part, it's a waste of time

Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion

2024-11-30 Thread Barry
> On 30 Nov 2024, at 00:00, Stephen Morris wrote: > > With reference to the Fedora environment, if a package is required to be > installed, would you recommend installing the repository version or download > it with pip? I usually use the package from fedora over install from PyPI. But if a