On 7/20/22 21:26, Lily White wrote:
Anyway vi commands are easier to remember compared to Emacs, by a margin.
No argument there! Back when I was studying programming, using CP/M,
the school provided MINCE (MINCE Is Not Completely Emacs) as our editor.
When I started playing around with Lin
I remember furiously inserting `g$' on my file until I remembered I'm
using nano.
Anyway vi commands are easier to remember compared to Emacs, by a margin.
On 7/21/22 12:00 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 7/20/22 09:38, Ron Flory via users wrote:
Careful there- even today, a very large number of n
Hi,
Following today's update to emacs to 28.1, what I get is an interminable
"Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/ess-init.el (source)..."
The window freezes and pretty much spawns a process, with the solution that the
emacs process has to be killed.
I do have emacs-ess and emacs-c
Hi All,
Would someone write me a quick command line
to pop up something from xfce4-notifyd?
Many thanks,
-T
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On 7/20/22 11:48, Tim via users wrote:
Now it's a welcome surprise to find someone who doesn't
need step by step guiding through an entire process.
I did telephone tech support for an ISP for about a decade and worked
with large numbers of people who didn't know how to do anything with
their
On 7/20/22 11:47, Jon LaBadie wrote:
You mean nano is so complex that you can't remember its basic commands?
No, I mean that I don't use it often enough to need to memorize them.
If I did, I'm sure that I'd know all of the commands that I used in
day-to-day work and only needed to use ^G to
On 7/20/22 10:16, John Mellor wrote:
Hmm, that line of thought opens a really rusted can of worms. Since
80-90% of "newcomers" use Windows and their fingers are programmed for
Windows keystrokes and mouse actions, maybe the Linux desktop should be
a look-alike instead of just being better. How
On 7/20/22 16:55, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Wine 7.12 crashes Approach printing to PDF's.
Wine 7.2 crashes Word Pro when trying to edit a document.
I have reported both.
How do I downgrade to Wine version 6? The repo seems
to only have 7.12 as its latest.
Many thanks,
-T
Fi
Hi All,
Wine 7.12 crashes Approach printing to PDF's.
Wine 7.2 crashes Word Pro when trying to edit a document.
I have reported both.
How do I downgrade to Wine version 6? The repo seems
to only have 7.12 as its latest.
Many thanks,
-T
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On 7/20/22 15:56, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 7/20/22 12:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Install:
# dnf group install 'Xfce Desktop'
# dnf install @xfce-desktop-environment
Those should be equivalent. Did they do something different or are you
just offering alternatives?
Showing both
On 7/20/22 12:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Install:
# dnf group install 'Xfce Desktop'
# dnf install @xfce-desktop-environment
Those should be equivalent. Did they do something different or are you
just offering alternatives?
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On Jul 20, 2022, at 11:38, Ron Flory via users
wrote:
> Also, I think you mean 'shell' instead of 'terminal'- a 'terminal' is an
> external piece of hardware that terminates a serial line, like an ADM-3A or
> TVI-912C, etc. We generally haven't used terminals since the 1980's.
“Terminal” is
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 9:42 PM Jerry James wrote:
>
> >
> > I installed mingw32-vkd3d-1.4-1.fc36.noarch and now the application
> works again!
> >
> > Thanks
> > Gianluca
>
> You're welcome. I'm glad that worked!
>
>
I thought I had already tried searching for vkd3d keyword when getting the
err
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 12:45 PM Gianluca Cecchi
wrote:
> Great!
> I only had wine-7.12-2.fc36.x86_64 and:
>
> mingw32-binutils-2.37-4.fc36.x86_64
> mingw32-cpp-11.2.1-5.fc36.x86_64
> mingw32-crt-9.0.0-4.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-filesystem-133-2.fc36.noarch
> mingw32-gcc-11.2.1-5.fc36.x86_64
> mingw3
On 7/19/22 04:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
I have both MATE and Xfce installed. If I boot
into MATE, such that Xfce is not running, or not
start a GUI at all, how do I do a group reinstall
of Xfce?
Many thanks,
-T
Follow up:
Apparently, Xfce was never installed with a group
On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 09:57 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 7/20/22 09:30, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I don't know how you draw that conclusion from what is merely a
> > reminiscence. I use vi because I'm familiar with it. I've also used
> > emacs extensively and like it. There are plenty of altern
On 7/19/22 14:07, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
xinit -- :0
Thank you!
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 7:52 PM Jerry James wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 6:48 AM Gianluca Cecchi
> wrote:
> > 0118:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is
> needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
> > 0118:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 6:48 AM Gianluca Cecchi
wrote:
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-shader-1.dll (which is needed by
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll") not found
> 0118:err:module:import_dll Library libvkd3d-1.dll (which is needed by
> L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wined3d.dll"
On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 09:57 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I draw that conclusion from reading many posts here and elsewhere
> from Linux newbies using vi because (and possibly only because)
> whatever walkthroughs they're trying to follow specify vi, instead of
> just a text editor.
There you're into t
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 10:00:13AM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 7/20/22 09:38, Ron Flory via users wrote:
Careful there- even today, a very large number of new Linux devices
don't run a GUI at all, so a text-based editor (and knowing how to drive
it) is a necessity.
Yes, but it doesn't have t
> On 20 Jul 2022, at 18:09, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> On 7/19/22 11:03, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>> But I definitely didn't use vim, I used emacs :-).
>> Heretic! Unclean! Unclean!
>
> I've never understood why so many people worship vi. If I need to edit a
> file in a terminal, I use Mork's Editor.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 3:24 PM Lily White
wrote:
> > BTW: do I have to worry about the message above "wine-staging 7.12 is a
> > testing version containing experimental patches"? Why this choice in
> case?
>
> Generally, no, `wine' should be relatively stable even it is staging.
>
> Moreover,
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 5:32 PM George N. White III
wrote:
>
>>
>> Any hint on how to use it again?
>>
>
> The missing libraries should be supplied by Wine's versions of Microsoft
> DirectX. They are in the flatpak: org.winehq.Wine
>
>
Ok, I have no flatpak but plain rpm on my fedora.
Could they
On 2022-07-20 11:14 a.m., Joe Zeff wrote:
On 7/20/22 05:54, George N. White III wrote:
On early unix systems, terminals were the only user interface. At that
time, vi was a big improvement over ed. Many early unix users
learned vi, and now still find it available by default on most linux
system
On 7/20/22 09:38, Ron Flory via users wrote:
Careful there- even today, a very large number of new Linux devices
don't run a GUI at all, so a text-based editor (and knowing how to drive
it) is a necessity.
Yes, but it doesn't have to be vi. One of the reasons I like nano is
that most of
On 7/20/22 09:30, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I don't know how you draw that conclusion from what is merely a
reminiscence. I use vi because I'm familiar with it. I've also used
emacs extensively and like it. There are plenty of alternatives and no-
one is being forced to use any of them. I think
Chris, I have been using Fedora as my D2D corporate workstation since F32. I
have had very few issues with any of it. My biggest issue and daily pita is
systemd-resolved . I have to consistently "systemctl restart systemd-resolved"
in order to get my VPN to restart.
In my home network, systemd-
On 7/20/2022 10:16 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 7/20/22 07:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > We couldn't even run vi at the time on our PDP-11/45 with 6th Edition
> > UNIX. IIRC it was too big for the address space. I wrote my PhD thesis
> > in Nroff using George Coulouris' em ('editor for mortals'),
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 9:48 AM Gianluca Cecchi
wrote:
> Hello,
> I was using an application (Booktab for reading school manuals) that
> worked in fedora 35.
> After updating to fedora 36 when I run it I get:
> $ pwd
> /home/g.cecchi/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Booktab
>
> $ wine ./Booktab
On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 09:16 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 7/20/22 07:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > We couldn't even run vi at the time on our PDP-11/45 with 6th
> > Edition
> > UNIX. IIRC it was too big for the address space. I wrote my PhD
> > thesis
> > in Nroff using George Coulouris' em ('ed
On 7/20/22 07:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
We couldn't even run vi at the time on our PDP-11/45 with 6th Edition
UNIX. IIRC it was too big for the address space. I wrote my PhD thesis
in Nroff using George Coulouris' em ('editor for mortals'), the
precursor to ex, which eventually became vi. It
On 7/20/22 05:54, George N. White III wrote:
On early unix systems, terminals were the only user interface. At that
time, vi was a big improvement over ed. Many early unix users
learned vi, and now still find it available by default on most linux
systems as well as macOS.
Yes. I remember that
On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 08:54 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 2:25 PM Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> > On 7/19/22 11:03, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> > > > But I definitely didn't use vim, I used emacs :-).
> > > Heretic! Unclean! Unclean!
> >
> > I've never understood why so many peopl
> BTW: do I have to worry about the message above "wine-staging 7.12 is a
> testing version containing experimental patches"? Why this choice in
case?
Generally, no, `wine' should be relatively stable even it is staging.
Moreover, when a Fedora version rolls out, the corresponding wine
*usual
Hello,
I was using an application (Booktab for reading school manuals) that
worked in fedora 35.
After updating to fedora 36 when I run it I get:
$ pwd
/home/g.cecchi/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Booktab
$ wine ./Booktab.exe
002c:fixme:winediag:LdrInitializeThunk wine-staging 7.12 is a testi
On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 2:25 PM Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 7/19/22 11:03, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> >> But I definitely didn't use vim, I used emacs :-).
> > Heretic! Unclean! Unclean!
>
> I've never understood why so many people worship vi. If I need to edit
> a file in a terminal, I use Mork's Editor.
On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 06:50 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
>
> > On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 13:20 +1000, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19/07/2022 14.39, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 19/07/2022 07.42, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > > > > Am I the on
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 13:20 +1000, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
>
>
> On 19/07/2022 14.39, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> >
> > On 19/07/2022 07.42, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > > Am I the only one lucky enough to have kernel-5.18.11-
> > > 200.fc36.x86_64 crash reliably, on partic
Hi,
Has pulseaudio/pipewire got to the stage where we can specify output
channels in our own way?
For instance, I use a Behringer UMC1820 for sound input/output. It's a
multichannel thing, over 10 inputs and outputs.
You can record multichannel, that works fine (usually). Occasionally
there's
On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 13:20 +1000, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
>
>
> On 19/07/2022 14.39, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> >
> > On 19/07/2022 07.42, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > > Am I the only one lucky enough to have kernel-5.18.11-
> > > 200.fc36.x86_64 crash reliably, on particular hardware, after
> > > s
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