Re: ssh impacted by systemd.resolved

2022-04-28 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/28/22 15:38, Dave Ihnat wrote: On 28 Apr at 17:27, Tom Horsley wrote: But systemd-timedated tries to supplant them all :-). This is where my "computer fungus" description comes from. Every systemd release seems to take over something else that worked fine without systemd engulfing it. Th

Re: systemctl, start a --user service from a root script

2022-04-28 Thread fedora
Hi Mike have you tried to use systemctl's own pöossibilities using a .service file? e.g. [Unit] Description=thunderbird [Service] Environment=DISPLAY=:0.0 Environment=LC_TIME=en_DK.utf-8 ExecStart=/usr/bin/thunderbird User=cvs [Install] WantedBy=graphical.target This service file makes

Re: Can new Fedora changes help users ?

2022-04-28 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-04-28 at 11:10 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > Very old nvidia drivers may not be available through rmpfusion but > drivers back to the 304 series for Geforce 6 chips are still > available on nvidia.com. You just download and install the rpm. It was always bad news to install drivers d

Re: ssh impacted by systemd.resolved

2022-04-28 Thread Dave Ihnat
On 28 Apr at 17:27, Tom Horsley wrote: > But systemd-timedated tries to supplant them all :-). This is where > my "computer fungus" description comes from. Every systemd release > seems to take over something else that worked fine without systemd > engulfing it. I've been working in Unix since ab

Re: ssh impacted by systemd.resolved

2022-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:15:16 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > History is full of similar examples, of an established component getting > replaced by a lighter replacement: chrony supplanting ntp; cronie > supplanting vixie-cron. This certainly can happen again. But systemd-timedated tries to su

Re: ssh impacted by systemd.resolved

2022-04-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Justin Moore writes: And, not to be too flip, I think that's part of the problem. Only the slow march of time will fix this problem. The core features of systemd – the dependency-based replacement for init that uses containers – the initial feature set that was was used as its advocacy: i

systemctl, start a --user service from a root script

2022-04-28 Thread Mike Wright
Hey all, I'm trying to execute a user systemd function from /etc/rc.local: 755, root.root. My thought is to use su. Is there a better way? This is where I'm at now. su --login mike --command=systemctl --user start Anybody know how to accomplish this? I personally know about 100 ways to

Re: Can new Fedora changes help users ?

2022-04-28 Thread Barry
> On 27 Apr 2022, at 20:11, Cătălin George Feștilă > wrote: > > I read this article > https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/27/fedora_starts_to_simplify_linux/. > The question is whether we can still use old laptops. I have an HP 6710b and > it works very well at the moment with Fedora 36. >

Re: ssh impacted by systemd.resolved

2022-04-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 08:05:56AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > And in the instant case, we had: > > 1) A broken systemd-resolved scriptlet that ended up overwriting the > /etc/resolv.conf symlink. This was fixed in the -2 update, but the initial > reports were ignored, because we were told

Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved

2022-04-28 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 28, 2022, at 07:05, Justin Moore wrote: > >  >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 5:35 PM Jonathan Billings >> wrote: > >> >> Just as much as frustrating as people who say “systemd is evil” and because >> it has bugs it should be tossed out entirely. > > That attempted equivalence doesn't ack

Re: Not Able To Use External Monitor with Laptop

2022-04-28 Thread Barry Scott
On 28/04/2022 20:17, Kenneth Marcy wrote: On 4/27/22 15:49, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: Hi, all, I'm having an odd problem. On two of my laptops, on which I've just done fresh installs, I cannot get the external monitor to work. Using either the XFCE display configuration tool, it shows up

Re: Not Able To Use External Monitor with Laptop

2022-04-28 Thread Kenneth Marcy
On 4/27/22 15:49, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: Hi, all, I'm having an odd problem. On two of my laptops, on which I've just done fresh installs, I cannot get the external monitor to work. Using either the XFCE display configuration tool, it shows up, but it's marked as 'disabled'. I do not s

Re: Can new Fedora changes help users ?

2022-04-28 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 12:11, R. G. Newbury wrote: > On 2022-04-28 00:04, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > > I think the answer's going to depend on the age. > > > > I have a 2007 era laptop that still works, though its battery doesn't, > > and is painfully burdened by modern Gnome.

Re: Can new Fedora changes help users ?

2022-04-28 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 2022-04-28 00:04, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: I think the answer's going to depend on the age. I have a 2007 era laptop that still works, though its battery doesn't, and is painfully burdened by modern Gnome. But managed Gnome from way back then quite acceptably. It has a n

Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved

2022-04-28 Thread Justin Moore
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 5:35 PM Jonathan Billings wrote: > > Just as much as frustrating as people who say “systemd is evil” and > because it has bugs it should be tossed out entirely. > That attempted equivalence doesn't acknowledge the power imbalance in the situation. The "systemd can't possi