Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:30 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > In addition to fixing the typo, I also de-indented the "Supported > Releases" and "EOL Releases" (thus removing the "Old Releases") in the > navigation bar to help make things more clear. > Quick note: The gmane link in that page is dead be

Re: SELinux is preventing mktemp from using the dac_read_search capability.

2022-01-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 1/5/22 18:18, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 1/5/22 21:16, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/01/2022 09:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 1/5/22 17:17, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/01/2022 21:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote: If you want to help identify if domain needs this access or you have a file with the wro

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Slade Watkins via users
On 1/5/2022 8:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Three approaches: > > Upgrade 1 release close to the EOL of current release.  This way you are > moving to a mature release. I generally like to recommend staying 1 release behind for stability... but as you note: > > Choose your poison. it's

Re: Next notebook

2022-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Oh, and 4 year old unit from ebay is good.  I really don't like buying new and paying new prices. On 1/5/22 21:43, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am currently using Lenovo Thinkpad x140e with 4Gb mem.  I have 3, 2 for Fedora and 1 for Win10.  The Fedora ones have been upgraded with 500Gb SSD drives

Next notebook

2022-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am currently using Lenovo Thinkpad x140e with 4Gb mem.  I have 3, 2 for Fedora and 1 for Win10.  The Fedora ones have been upgraded with 500Gb SSD drives. I like Thinkpads for the eraser head pointer device. and x140e for the 12" monitor format (works well in airplane seats). But what next

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 21:12:04 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > that sounds interesting, but don't you also need separate / partitions > with all the release specific software? Yep. My actual scheme has a tiny grub2 stand alone partition which uses the "configfile" grub command to be able to boot on

Re: SELinux is preventing mktemp from using the dac_read_search capability.

2022-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/5/22 21:16, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/01/2022 09:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 1/5/22 17:17, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/01/2022 21:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I keep getting these errors. I got them back with F32 and Xfce, and now with F35 and Xfce. I asked on the SElinux list, but no o

Re: SELinux is preventing mktemp from using the dac_read_search capability.

2022-01-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/01/2022 09:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 1/5/22 17:17, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/01/2022 21:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I keep getting these errors. I got them back with F32 and Xfce, and now with F35 and Xfce. I asked on the SElinux list, but no one seems to be home. Here is the full

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/5/22 21:03, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 20:47:06 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: Three approaches: I go with the 4th approach: Keep two separate boot partitions and upgrade right away in one of them so I can go back to previous version trivially if it turns out something is horr

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 20:47:06 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Three approaches: I go with the 4th approach: Keep two separate boot partitions and upgrade right away in one of them so I can go back to previous version trivially if it turns out something is horribly wrong. I running fedora 35 now wi

F35 HP-toolbox in Xfce

2022-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I notice that when I use HP-toolbox (normally to get to scanning from my network attached printer) that when I close the toobox an icon that looks like a lightbulb stays on the system tray. It has a 'quit' option when I right click on it, but it never seems to quit.  It just stays there, repor

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/4/22 18:20, Slade Watkins via users wrote: hi, Until when will Fedora 34 be supported? if I recall correctly, the End of Life (EOL) date is May 17th, 2022. someone else on the list can correct me if I am wrong though. Is it highly recommended that I upgrade to Fedora 35 at this point?

Re: SELinux is preventing mktemp from using the dac_read_search capability.

2022-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 1/5/22 17:17, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/01/2022 21:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I keep getting these errors. I got them back with F32 and Xfce, and now with F35 and Xfce. I asked on the SElinux list, but no one seems to be home. Here is the full detail; it looks like it may be logwatch caus

Re: SELinux is preventing mktemp from using the dac_read_search capability.

2022-01-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/01/2022 21:02, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I keep getting these errors. I got them back with F32 and Xfce, and now with F35 and Xfce. I asked on the SElinux list, but no one seems to be home. Here is the full detail; it looks like it may be logwatch causing the problem.  What do I do to fix

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Slade Watkins via users
On 1/5/2022 12:59 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:32 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: >> Oh! I see Ben has already changed it. Should be live soon. :) > > Well, once the build failures[1] are fixed. > > In addition to fixing the typo, I also de-indented the "Supported > Releases" an

Re: Screen sharing: global solution for Wayland that works for all apps

2022-01-05 Thread Neal Becker
You may have heard me mention on this list that this is a barrier for me to switch to Wayland. Working from home, as so many of us are, I need to give presentations. I prefer not to share my screen, but share a window. Using chrome, for example, I could share a screen, a window, or a tab. Probl

Screen sharing: global solution for Wayland that works for all apps

2022-01-05 Thread Raman Gupta
I'm finally switching over to Wayland as my daily driver. However, I'm still finding big problems with screen sharing in general. I'm on KDE/Plasma. Many apps that are supposed to support screen sharing on Wayland -- Electron-based apps, Chromium, OBS, proprietary apps like Zoom etc. either compl

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:32 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > Oh! I see Ben has already changed it. Should be live soon. :) Well, once the build failures[1] are fixed. In addition to fixing the typo, I also de-indented the "Supported Releases" and "EOL Releases" (thus removing the "Old Releases") in t

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Doug Herr
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, at 3:11 PM, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > I will ask this question here since I didn't understand the > explanations I found elsewhere. > Until when will Fedora 34 be supported? > Is it highly recommended that I upgrade to Fedora 35 at this point? I know this is all sorted

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:26:40AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > Thanks! Yeah, I agree that that's confusing. The problem is that that > document is coming from our Program Management team, and that team mostly is > concerned with the releases we're developing — so current releases are > "old". :)

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 08:05:03AM -0500, Slade Watkins wrote: > yes, happy to help! what I was referring to was the sorting of the > sections in the sidebar on this page: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/lifecycle/ Thanks! Yeah, I agree that that's confusing. The problem is that t

Re: I have defeated Wayland!

2022-01-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 08:09:10 -0400 George N. White III wrote: > This commit enables those two features in mutter for both X11 and Wayland. It does make more sense for it to be in the software, especially for laptops where there is no "between" to wedge the microcode, but I really hope someone will

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 2:45 AM Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > > Then I consulted this site, > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/lifecycle/ > That site says exactly what you confirmed (13 months after the release). > However I got a bit confused in the section called Maintenance sched

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 at 03:44, Anil Felipe Duggirala < anilduggir...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 06:11:24PM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > >> I will ask this question here since I didn't understand the > explanations

Re: support term for Fedora 34

2022-01-05 Thread Slade Watkins via users
On 1/4/2022 10:57 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Sorry, which section? Do you have a link? We're working on redesigning the > layout of our docs, so looking at this is timely. :) > yes, happy to help! what I was referring to was the sorting of the sections in the sidebar on this page: https://d

SELinux is preventing mktemp from using the dac_read_search capability.

2022-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I keep getting these errors. I got them back with F32 and Xfce, and now with F35 and Xfce. I asked on the SElinux list, but no one seems to be home. Here is the full detail; it looks like it may be logwatch causing the problem.  What do I do to fix this? === SELinux is preventin

Re: I have defeated Wayland!

2022-01-05 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 15:44, Tom Horsley wrote: > https://tomhorsley.com/hardware/mouse-tailor/mouse-tailor.html > > My latest silly project adds all the mouse settings to microcode > outside of the operating system so my trackball can be useful > when I'm forced to use Wayland (which seems to ha

Re: Artifacts running konsole under Fedora-35

2022-01-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 01:19 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 1/5/22 01:00, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Wayland is very flaky, crashes of various kinds, sometimes killing > > individual apps, sometimes an entire session.  I can't reproduce > > the > > crashes reliably; they happen when they happen.

Re: Artifacts running konsole under Fedora-35

2022-01-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 01:19 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 1/5/22 01:00, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Wayland is very flaky, crashes of various kinds, sometimes killing > > individual apps, sometimes an entire session.  I can't reproduce > > the > > crashes reliably; they happen when they happen.

Re: Artifacts running konsole under Fedora-35

2022-01-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 1/5/22 01:00, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Wayland is very flaky, crashes of various kinds, sometimes killing individual apps, sometimes an entire session.  I can't reproduce the crashes reliably; they happen when they happen. The only thing that may be relevant is that I am running Firefox with

Re: Artifacts running konsole under Fedora-35

2022-01-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 01:00 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > X11 messes up konsole, the KDE terminal emulator.  When typing onto > the screen, not displaying text generated by an application, the test > appears slowly and with many strange artifacts. It looks like the > text appears on one interlac

Artifacts running konsole under Fedora-35

2022-01-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
I've just upgraded from F34 to F35 and have troubles with KDE vs Wayland and X11.   Wayland is very flaky, crashes of various kinds, sometimes killing individual apps, sometimes an entire session.  I can't reproduce the crashes reliably; they happen when they happen. The only thing that may be rel