Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 8/13/20 1:48 AM, Todd Chester via users wrote: On 2020-08-12 16:16, Doug McGarrett wrote: Please tell me the difference between Free Office and SoftMaker Standard. std is version 2021 Free is version 2018 Thank you.  --doug ___ users mailin

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/12/20 10:50 PM, Todd Chester via users wrote: Do you have any idea how much arguing I had to do to get LO to move that out of paragraph? I didn't know it was ever in there, but I agree that it shouldn't be. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.f

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Todd Chester via users
On 2020-08-12 15:48, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/12/20 12:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 23:13, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/11/20 9:24 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 21:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: "Intuitive" is almost completely dependent on your previous experience

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Todd Chester via users
On 2020-08-12 16:16, Doug McGarrett wrote: Please tell me the difference between Free Office and SoftMaker Standard. std is version 2021 Free is version 2018 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-08-13 10:10, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > > On 8/12/20 7:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-08-13 07:16, Doug McGarrett wrote: >>> Please tell me the difference between Free Office and SoftMaker Standard. I >>> am going to install one or the other on my new computer running Linux >> You coul

Re: Looking for help to install python kivy

2020-08-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13Aug2020 01:46, Paul Smith wrote: >I am trying to install kivy on Fedora 32, but I cannot find a rpm and >pip runs into errors. > >Could someone please help me to install kivy on Fedora 32? I haven't a Fedora box to hand, but I just ran this on the local Ubuntu box: [~]borg*> pip3 insta

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 8/12/20 7:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-08-13 07:16, Doug McGarrett wrote: Please tell me the difference between Free Office and SoftMaker Standard. I am going to install one or the other on my new computer running Linux You could use a google search to find https://www.softmaker.

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 8/12/20 7:16 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: On 8/12/20 4:13 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 16:13, Doug McGarrett wrote: On 8/11/20 4:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm'

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-08-13 07:16, Doug McGarrett wrote: > Please tell me the difference between Free Office and SoftMaker Standard. I > am going to install one or the other on my new computer running Linux You could use a google search to find https://www.softmaker.com/en/comparison-freeoffice-softmaker-

Looking for help to install python kivy

2020-08-12 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I am trying to install kivy on Fedora 32, but I cannot find a rpm and pip runs into errors. Could someone please help me to install kivy on Fedora 32? Thanks in advance, Paul ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: xsane and simple-scan

2020-08-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/12/20 5:02 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote: I hadn't tried simple-scan until now.  It doesn't automatically detect the scan size on my scanner, and I don't see a way to adjust for scan size. Otherwise it does work pretty good. Right-click, crop, select size. __

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 8/12/20 4:13 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 16:13, Doug McGarrett wrote: On 8/11/20 4:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version __

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Rikke Giles
On 8/11/20 10:02 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 19:59 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: I have tried to copy and paste some received printed copy into Libre Office and it seems like I always get some big black rectangular objects in the copied file. One reason I don't use it. Never

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/12/20 12:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 23:13, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/11/20 9:24 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 21:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: "Intuitive" is almost completely dependent on your previous experience. You are very forgiving.  It belongs in

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 12:19 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-08-11 21:54, Tim via users wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 21:24 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > You are very forgiving. It belongs in Format-> page. > > > > That I can agree on. It's logical to have a format

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-08-11 16:13, Doug McGarrett wrote: On 8/11/20 4:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version ___ It's been a while

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-08-12 12:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 16:13, Doug McGarrett wrote: On 8/11/20 4:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version ___

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-08-11 16:13, Doug McGarrett wrote: On 8/11/20 4:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version ___ It's been a while

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-08-11 21:54, Tim via users wrote: On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 21:24 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: You are very forgiving. It belongs in Format-> page. That I can agree on. It's logical to have a format - page option format the current page. And it's logical for there to be a separa

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-08-11 23:13, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/11/20 9:24 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 21:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: "Intuitive" is almost completely dependent on your previous experience. You are very forgiving.  It belongs in Format-> page. NOT Insert->page breaks->More Breaks

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread William Oliver
On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 14:39 -0400, Temlakos wrote: > Then if no one you know uses LaTeX anymore, how does one render > mathematical equations other than by drawing the image of math and > embedding such images directly? > > Temlakos > > I sort of changed careers. I'm trained in medicine as a

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-08-12 01:53, Peter Boy wrote: Am 12.08.2020 um 00:39 schrieb ToddAndMargo via users : So I put him on LO. He is writing up a book or something. If he is really writing a book (i.e. more than 100 pages) he should really use LO. Much better support e.g. for a consistent page constr

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 15:40, Temlakos wrote: > Then if no one you know uses LaTeX anymore, how does one render > mathematical equations other than by drawing the image of math and > embedding such images directly? > The internet has people who use LaTeX. You don't have to know them. LaTeX is

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-08-11 22:01, Tim via users wrote: I've found users really pissed off with word, the oddball unexpected things it does, the unintuitive features that just cannot be used without deep explanation (that don't make sense when explained, either), the features that refuse to work as advertised.

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/12/2020 12:39 PM, Temlakos wrote: Then if no one you know uses LaTeX anymore, how does one render mathematical equations other than by drawing the image of math and embedding such images directly? You can create and insert formulas in LO as you need. All you need is to go to the Help se

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Temlakos
On 8/12/20 2:49 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 8/12/20 11:39 AM, Temlakos wrote: >> Then if no one you know uses LaTeX anymore, how does one render >> mathematical equations other than by drawing the image of math and >> embedding such images directly? > > LibreOffice has a decent equation editor.  I'

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 8/12/20 11:39 AM, Temlakos wrote: Then if no one you know uses LaTeX anymore, how does one render mathematical equations other than by drawing the image of math and embedding such images directly? LibreOffice has a decent equation editor. I'm guessing Word probably has one too. __

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Temlakos
Then if no one you know uses LaTeX anymore, how does one render mathematical equations other than by drawing the image of math and embedding such images directly? Temlakos On 8/12/20 10:50 AM, William Oliver wrote: > Wow. I didn't know people still used TeX/LaTeX a lot any more. I > remember ha

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Wednesday, 12 August 2020 13.15.43 WEST Tony Nelson wrote: > Lyx. https://www.lyx.org/Features The list of user of LyX is quite varied. Quite surprising to me was that there were people from law, linguists and also for Hollywood and Broadway scripts. Regards, -- José Matos ___

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 11:51, William Oliver wrote: > Wow. I didn't know people still used TeX/LaTeX a lot any more. I > remember having to use it all the time for stuff I wrote when in > graduate school in the 1980s, but I thought it had pretty much fallen > out of favor except for die-hard us

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread William Oliver
Wow. I didn't know people still used TeX/LaTeX a lot any more. I remember having to use it all the time for stuff I wrote when in graduate school in the 1980s, but I thought it had pretty much fallen out of favor except for die-hard users. I haven't used it in years. But what do I know. I stil

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Tony Nelson
On August 12, 2020 1:11:51 AM EDT, Tim via users wrote: >On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 15:39 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> So I put him on LO. He is writing up a book or something. > >A word processor, any word processor, is not a particularly good choice >for writing a book. ... >Latex is th

xsane and simple-scan

2020-08-12 Thread Mike Flannigan
It is hard to argue that xsane is simple and intuitive, but it does do a good job after you learn it.  Even the GOCR is respectable. I hadn't tried simple-scan until now.  It doesn't automatically detect the scan size on my scanner, and I don't see a way to adjust for scan size. Otherwise it doe

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 02:12, Tim via users wrote: > On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 15:39 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > So I put him on LO. He is writing up a book or something. > > A word processor, any word processor, is not a particularly good choice > for writing a book. They've long sinc

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 14:41 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 15:39 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > So I put him on LO. He is writing up a book or something. > > A word processor, any word processor, is not a particularly good choice > for writing a book. They've long

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 12.08.2020 um 00:39 schrieb ToddAndMargo via users > : > > So I put him on LO. He is writing up a book or something. If he is really writing a book (i.e. more than 100 pages) he should really use LO. Much better support e.g. for a consistent page construction, consistent formatting usi

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread J.Witvliet--- via users
Hi Sam, I really do want to like Libre Office, but... I have installed it over the years across two counties and I hae yet to have a SINGLE customer that has stayed with it. It is just too counter intuitive and buggy. In that case, pleased to meet you. I’ve started to use StarOffice, when it

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

2020-08-12 Thread J.Witvliet--- via users
Sorry to disagree... From: "Tim via users" mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> Date: Wednesday, 12 August 2020 at 07:12:26 To: "users@lists.fedoraproject.org" mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> Cc: "Tim" mailto:ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au>> Subject: Re: Any subs for Libreoffice? On Tue