Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 22:58, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/11/20 9:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 15:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The inability to mix portrait and landscape pages Figured it out.  he use "page break" adn "chapter break in reverse. 1) Layout, Page Orientation -->

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 9:24 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 21:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: "Intuitive" is almost completely dependent on your previous experience. You are very forgiving.  It belongs in Format-> page. NOT Insert->page breaks->More Breaks->manual breaks->Page Style. The reason

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 9:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 15:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The inability to mix portrait and landscape pages Figured it out.  he use "page break" adn "chapter break in reverse. 1) Layout, Page Orientation --> Portrait 2) Layout Insert Page --> Chapt

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 15:39 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > So I put him on LO. He is writing up a book or something. A word processor, any word processor, is not a particularly good choice for writing a book. They've long since gone from being a "word processor" to being a secretary's al

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 15:39 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > LO is just obscure, full of bugs, and difficulty > use. I've always said the same about Word, and you can add: full of security flaws that affect your entire computer. For someone who's come from using an actual typewriter, word i

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 19:59 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > I have tried to copy and paste some received printed copy into Libre > Office and it seems like I always get some big black rectangular > objects in the copied file. One reason I don't use it. Never seen it do that. -- uname -rsvp Li

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 21:24 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > You are very forgiving. It belongs in Format-> page. That I can agree on. It's logical to have a format - page option format the current page. And it's logical for there to be a separate format - document option for the whole do

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 21:38, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-08-12 12:30, Ed Greshko wrote: You can even create a template. Coming up with a template for these pre-printed envelops was a challenge. https://zhongruige.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/envelope_taiwan.jpg Thank you! If I am forced to use LO fo

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-12 12:30, Ed Greshko wrote: > > You can even create a template. Coming up with a template for these pre-printed envelops was a challenge. https://zhongruige.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/envelope_taiwan.jpg -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 15:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The inability to mix portrait and landscape pages Figured it out. he use "page break" adn "chapter break in reverse. 1) Layout, Page Orientation --> Portrait 2) Layout Insert Page --> Chapter break 3) Layout, Page Orientation --> Landscape

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-12 12:18, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-08-11 20:38, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-08-12 11:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> On 2020-08-11 20:01, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-08-12 10:14, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > It can't print an envelope in Landscape center p

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 21:07, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/11/20 7:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 18:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/10/20 9:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I switch back and forth from portrait to landscape in 7.0? https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/259593

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 20:38, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-08-12 11:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 20:01, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-08-12 10:14, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: It can't print an envelope in Landscape center position: I've not had any problems to print envelops with text i

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 7:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 18:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/10/20 9:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I switch back and forth from portrait to landscape in 7.0? https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/259593/how-do-i-switch-back-and-forth-from-port

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-12 11:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-08-11 20:01, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-08-12 10:14, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> It can't print an envelope in Landscape center position: >> >> I've not had any problems to print envelops with text in any position I want >> in la

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 20:01, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-08-12 10:14, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: It can't print an envelope in Landscape center position: I've not had any problems to print envelops with text in any position I want in landscape mode and my HP printer. The only "issue" I've had is th

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-12 10:14, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > It can't print an envelope in Landscape center position: I've not had any problems to print envelops with text in any position I want in landscape mode and my HP printer. The only "issue" I've had is that some envelops here in Taiwan don't ad

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 18:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/10/20 9:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Please tell me there is an alternative to Libre office that actually works right!!! How about LibreOffice?  It works just fine. Hi Sam, Unless you really, really try to use it. I have installe

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 8:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/11/20 4:59 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: I have tried to copy and paste some received printed copy into Libre Office and it seems like I always get some big black rectangular objects in the copied file. One reason I don't use it. What does that even m

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 16:26, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/11/20 3:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: LO is just obscure, full of bugs, and difficulty use.   I have a customer that has never used either M$0 or LO.  So no "I can't learn anything new": an ideal test. So I put him on LO.  He is writing up a bo

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/10/20 9:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Please tell me there is an alternative to Libre office that actually works right!!! How about LibreOffice? It works just fine. How do I switch back and forth from portrait to landscape in 7.0? https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/2

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 4:59 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: I have tried to copy and paste some received printed copy into Libre Office and it seems like I always get some big black rectangular objects in the copied file. One reason I don't use it. What does that even mean? How can you copy from something that

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 7:26 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 8/11/20 3:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: LO is just obscure, full of bugs, and difficulty use.   I have a customer that has never used either M$0 or LO.  So no "I can't learn anything new": an ideal test. So I put him on LO.  He is writing up a b

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 5:55 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 14:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 13:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version Found

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 3:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: LO is just obscure, full of bugs, and difficulty use.   I have a customer that has never used either M$0 or LO.  So no "I can't learn anything new": an ideal test. So I put him on LO.  He is writing up a book or something. He called me three times

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 4:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version ___ It's been a while since I looked at the website. It turns out

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 15:10, George N. White III wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 18:56, ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On 2020-08-11 14:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-08-11 13:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug

Re: OT: diagnosis of failure to boot

On 11Aug2020 08:17, Geoffrey Leach wrote: >Question: how to fsck on / which is mounted and busy in emergency mode? If you don't have a rescue CDROM (or the like) the traditional approach is: remount it readonly, then fsck, then reboot. mount -o remount,ro / Cheers, Cameron Simpson ___

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 18:56, ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 2020-08-11 14:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 2020-08-11 13:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: > >>> I like Softmaker Office > >> > >> I am seei

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 14:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 13:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version Found it: https://www.freeoffice.com/en/download/applicat

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 13:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version Found it: https://www.freeoffice.com/en/download/applications ___

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 2020-08-11 12:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: I like Softmaker Office I am seeing a 30 day trial (.rpm's, yippee) but no free version ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

On 8/11/20 7:07 AM, jtagcat via users wrote: You might want to try out the notebookbar . It wouldn't solve all your problems, but might prove to be more familiar. On 11.08.20 07:11, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just

Re: nmcli and gateway question

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 11:47 PM Mike Wright wrote: > For me, Tom H has the right idea. :) although there are many "right" answers. > If Todd wants simple what's wrong with something like this: > > alias gateways="ip route list | awk '/^default/ {print}'" > --or short form-- > alias gateways=

Re: Fedora 32: can't cd to home directory on login

Generally I try to use nfsvers=3 since I have had version 4 act up like this a couple of times when everything is not completely in sync. On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 8:12 AM Braden McDaniel wrote: > > On Sun, 2020-08-09 at 20:49 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 8/9/20 8:02 PM, Braden McDaniel wrot

Re: OT: diagnosis of failure to boot

On August 11, 2020 11:23:14 AM EDT, Michael Hennebry wrote: >On Tue, 11 Aug 2020, Geoffrey Leach wrote: ... >> Question: how to fsck on / which is mounted and busy in emergency >mode? > >I think the answer is you don't. >Boot from a floppy or something and run fsck from there. Boot with the ker

Re: OT: diagnosis of failure to boot

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020, Geoffrey Leach wrote: The problem was a bad ssector on /home. Fsck solved it. Question: how to fsck on / which is mounted and busy in emergency mode? I think the answer is you don't. Boot from a floppy or something and run fsck from there. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.nd

Re: OT: diagnosis of failure to boot

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:00:07 -0300 "George N. White III" wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:26, wrote: > > > Reboot stopped at emergency mode. > > > > journalctl -xb does not list any complaints (that I can find), but > > there's clearly something wrong! Any suggestions as to diagnosis? > > > >

Re: OT: diagnosis of failure to boot

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 11:26, wrote: > Reboot stopped at emergency mode. > > journalctl -xb does not list any complaints (that I can find), but > there's clearly something wrong! Any suggestions as to diagnosis? > > kernel is 5.7.9.200. selinux is disabled. > > livecd boot is OK; disk is accessib

OT: diagnosis of failure to boot

Reboot stopped at emergency mode. journalctl -xb does not list any complaints (that I can find), but there's clearly something wrong! Any suggestions as to diagnosis? kernel is 5.7.9.200. selinux is disabled. livecd boot is OK; disk is accessible. I saved the output of journlctl, so i

Re: Fedora 32: can't cd to home directory on login

On Sun, 2020-08-09 at 20:49 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 8/9/20 8:02 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > > Fedora 32 (Workstation Edition) > > Kernel 5.7.12-200.fc32.x86_64 on an x86_64 (tty3) > > mull login: braden > > Password: > > Last login: Sun Aug 9 21:08:51 on tty2 > >

Re: Any subs for Libreoffice?

You might want to try out the notebookbar . It wouldn't solve all your problems, but might prove to be more familiar. On 11.08.20 07:11, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > I just installed LibreOffice-7.0.0-Linux_x86-64_rpm.tar.