Re: OT: F29+ alternatives to evolution for fetching and sending e-mails with multifactor authentication

2019-03-02 Thread Robin Laing
On 22/02/2019 14:58, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Dear friends, Over the past 20 years, I have had e-mail set up in the following way: Use fetchmail and procmail along with filtering to get things into folders, and then use a mailer (sylpheed for the last 15 years along with sylfilter) to read and se

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-02 Thread Robin Laing
On 01/03/2019 18:02, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 07:02 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Jonathan Ryshpan writes: The latest drive is a replacement given to me by Seagate; they said that the drive had failed and had to be replaced, which they did, since it was still under warrant

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-02 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 11:00:46AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > Hieroglyphics also work well. Ah...not so much. Remember what happened to Akhenaten. And yes, I said I'd shut up... -- Dave Ihnat ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/02/2019 09:34 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: There really isn't an answer. Historically, cuneiform clay tablets seem to be a good bet, but data density sucks. Hieroglyphics also work well. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-02 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 08:07:21AM -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On a related topic, what can be recommended for archival storage -- > decades or maybe even centuries? ... You, my friend, have named an issue that is still unresolved. NASA bet on a gold-plated copper record. Researchers are l

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-02 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 05:06 -0800, Todd Chester via users wrote: > What I have been lately, is building my own with drives > with Rosewill backup cases (RX304-APU3-35B). I populate > them with Western Digital drives What are the advantages/disadvantages of this approach vs. NAS. Here's what lo

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-02 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 08:07 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 05:06:38AM -0800, Community support for Fedora users > wrote: > > I have noticed that my customers who go out and buy external > > USB mechanical drive drives for backup never have any > > "last". They always go bad...

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-02 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:07 AM Dave Ihnat wrote: > > Synology NAS--usually a 2-disk unit--using Ironwolf NAS drives. (You can > use WD Red depending on performance, price and preference.) Size to the > client's server(s), mount using iSCSI. StarTech (or other vendor--find > your sweet spot) US

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2019-03-02 at 11:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 3/2/19 9:57 AM, Tim via users wrote: > > I prefer NAS (doing the same kind of thing over the LAN). > > Indeed. Unless one has a need to carry around the drive I wouldn't use a USB > enclosure. > And, if I did have to carry around a driv