Re: Terrible F25 WiFi Performance

2017-01-06 Thread Christopher
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 5:29 PM Christopher wrote: > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:53 AM Gordon Messmer > wrote: > > On 01/04/2017 09:58 PM, Christopher wrote: > > since F25, I get poor download speeds, and *REALLY* poor upload speeds > > > It might not be too helpful, but I think I'm seeing the same

Re: Is there a way to specify that boot should be deterministic instead of using threads?

2017-01-06 Thread stan
On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 00:02:32 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I doubt that the dependencies are "fuzzy". What would that even mean? > AFAIK they define a partial order and each process just executes as > soon as it can. That's why the physical order can vary. You just defined what I meant by '

Re: Is there a way to specify that boot should be deterministic instead of using threads?

2017-01-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2017-01-06 at 16:05 -0700, stan wrote: > I think systemd has to have some sort of task ordering, or it couldn't > function, since there *are* ordering dependencies during boot.  They > are probably just fuzzy, though.  And there are things like the wait > on network task to try to protect a

Re: Is there a way to specify that boot should be deterministic instead of using threads?

2017-01-06 Thread stan
On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 16:20:50 -0500 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 12:57:00PM -0700, stan wrote: > > Kernel booting used to be deterministic. That is, if you booted the > > kernel 10 times, every one of them would be exactly the same. Then, > > several years ago, the kernel boot

Re: graphical startup hangs on plymouth

2017-01-06 Thread Pete Travis
On Jan 5, 2017 10:24 PM, "Greg Woods" wrote: On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 3:46 PM, stan wrote: > > > It sounds like a race condition. Does it occur intermittently? That > is, if it happens and you hit the hard reset button, does it > then sometimes boot correctly and sometimes not? I confess th

Re: Terrible F25 WiFi Performance

2017-01-06 Thread Christopher
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:53 AM Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/04/2017 09:58 PM, Christopher wrote: > > since F25, I get poor download speeds, and *REALLY* poor upload speeds > > > It might not be too helpful, but I think I'm seeing the same thing. I > haven't looked at it previously, but a very

Re: graphical startup hangs on plymouth

2017-01-06 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > This thread does make me think about checking out what the plymouth-quit > service is actually supposed to be doing. All it really does is "plymouth --wait", which doesn't help unless the details of how Plymouth works are known, which they are

Re: Is there a way to specify that boot should be deterministic instead of using threads?

2017-01-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 12:57:00PM -0700, stan wrote: > Kernel booting used to be deterministic. That is, if you booted the > kernel 10 times, every one of them would be exactly the same. Then, > several years ago, the kernel boot process was made threaded to speed > it up. This means that every

Re: Is there a way to specify that boot should be deterministic instead of using threads?

2017-01-06 Thread stan
On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 13:08:50 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/06/2017 11:57 AM, stan wrote: > > Is there a way to make the kernel boot in deterministic fashion > > again? Everything will be done sequentially, and no task will kick > > off if its predecessors are not done. > > I think I know the an

Re: Is there a way to specify that boot should be deterministic instead of using threads?

2017-01-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/06/2017 11:57 AM, stan wrote: Is there a way to make the kernel boot in deterministic fashion again? Everything will be done sequentially, and no task will kick off if its predecessors are not done. I think I know the answer, but I'm going to ask anyway: why? I'm asking because there's

Is there a way to specify that boot should be deterministic instead of using threads?

2017-01-06 Thread stan
Kernel booting used to be deterministic. That is, if you booted the kernel 10 times, every one of them would be exactly the same. Then, several years ago, the kernel boot process was made threaded to speed it up. This means that every boot is slightly different. Is there a way to make the kerne

Re: openshot video editor on Fedora

2017-01-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 01/06/2017 06:47 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: A little thread necro here... Openshot 2.1 is now on RPM Fusion if you want to give it a try, I know the move to a C++ based backend has been a long journey but I'd like to know if things have improved. (FYI, I'm the package maintainer) I just haven't

Re: NetworkManager failing to recognize ethernet connection intermittently in F25 SOLVED, sort of

2017-01-06 Thread stan
On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 11:35:37 -0700 stan wrote: > an rc.local file in /etc/rc.d with the command > systemd restart NetworkManager This is wrong. Actual command was /usr/bin/systemctl restart NetworkManager journalctl -b showed [systemd] stopping NetworkManager which is where I probably derived

Re: NetworkManager failing to recognize ethernet connection intermittently in F25 SOLVED, sort of

2017-01-06 Thread stan
On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 15:55:29 -0700 stan wrote: > I've started to have a problem sometime within the last month, where > on boot I get a message that the ethernet link is up, but when I try > to use it, sometimes it can't be accessed. Update - Using Joe and Samuel's suggestions, I booted rawhide a

Log errors since FF25 upgrade

2017-01-06 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
Hi, In the past few days since I've upgraded to 25 I've been getting the following errors in the logs: [ 208.023766] perf: interrupt took too long (2514 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 79000 [ 765.749837] perf: interrupt took too long (3157 > 3142), lowering kernel.perf_e

Re: TB default search engine

2017-01-06 Thread geo.inbox.ignored
On 01/05/2017 05:20 PM, JD wrote: > TB does not allow me to change the default search engine to google, as > it is not in the select menu. > }} if you do not desire another add-on, access the search engine listings via about:config; Edit > Preferences > Advanced > General [Config Editor] en

Re: Dual monitor control lost after upgrading to 25

2017-01-06 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:36 AM Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 01/06/17 22:09, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: > > Thanks Zachary. That's what I came up with (and left-of) but when I > issue that I get > > zero return and nothing changes on the screens. Mine active screens are > listed as > > XWAYLAND1 & X

Re: openshot video editor on Fedora

2017-01-06 Thread Richard Shaw
A little thread necro here... Openshot 2.1 is now on RPM Fusion if you want to give it a try, I know the move to a C++ based backend has been a long journey but I'd like to know if things have improved. (FYI, I'm the package maintainer) I just haven't had a need for video editing lately. Thanks,

Re: Dual monitor control lost after upgrading to 25

2017-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/06/17 22:09, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: > Thanks Zachary. That's what I came up with (and left-of) but when I issue > that I get > zero return and nothing changes on the screens. Mine active screens are > listed as > XWAYLAND1 & XWAYLAND0 if that helps? Two additional things 1. If

Re: Dual monitor control lost after upgrading to 25

2017-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/06/17 22:09, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: > Thanks Zachary. That's what I came up with (and left-of) but when I issue > that I get > zero return and nothing changes on the screens. Mine active screens are > listed as > XWAYLAND1 & XWAYLAND0 if that helps? Ahh, OK You are using "Wayla

Re: Dual monitor control lost after upgrading to 25

2017-01-06 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:08 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 01/06/17 11:58, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: > > Okay so let me ask this then. Does anybody know how I would change how I > scroll from one > > screen to another in Xrandr? Currently, I must access my left screen by > exiting my right > > s

Re: issue wth nouveau driver on f25

2017-01-06 Thread François Patte
Le 06/01/2017 10:37, François Patte a écrit : > Bonjour, > > I just installed fedora 25 and I have a problem with X11: When a user > logins, the screen blinks several times (alternating console and black > screen) before displaying the graphical screen. > > In Xorg.0.log I get this message (repea

issue wth nouveau driver on f25

2017-01-06 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I just installed fedora 25 and I have a problem with X11: When a user logins, the screen blinks several times (alternating console and black screen) before displaying the graphical screen. In Xorg.0.log I get this message (repeated at least 4 times for each user login): (EE) NOUVEAU: fa