Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 08/29/2015 04:42 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: >> >> then if I update ubuntu I have to either do the efibootmgr -o to change >> to ubuntu OR from fedora run grub-2mkconfig.. with 2 ESPs it is a manual >> process to keep grub updated for 2 OS

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 08/29/2015 01:25 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> > Then it is necessary to deactivate the Secureboot. This tool was >>> > implemented in Windows 8 with the new UEFI Bios, as a safety mechanism >>> > to prevent malicious software from booting

Re: grub2-install fails- now SHIM

2015-08-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > grub2-mkconfig will add entries for other operating systems it can find. > That will be done based on the output of the os-prober tool. This is why one of my first modifications post-install is to /etc/default/grub to add GRUB_DISABLE_OS

Re: Win 7->10 Upgrade on Dual-Boot (Win 7/F22) Machine

2015-08-29 Thread Stephen Morris
On 29/08/15 07:38, Tim Evans wrote: Looking for experience with upgrading Win 7 to Win 10 on a dual-boot system. My Lenovo T530 came with Win 7 pre-installed. I shrunk the Windows partition and installed F21 (subsequently upgraded via fedup to F22). Grub2 boot menu offers both Fedora and Win

Re: grub2-install fails

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 04:31 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >>> > >>> >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2 >> so grub2-efi installs it, but how do you modify/maintain it?? > > You don't. If you modify the grub2 binary, the signature is invalid > and the system won't boot (under Secure Boot). There is almost

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 04:29 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> that I can deal with.. but there are TWO grub.cfg files which one >> should I modify with grub2-mkconfig?? > > The one on the ESP. /boot/grub2/grub.cfg is used under BIOS. It > normally won't be present on an UEFI system. this started as a UEFI

Re: grub2-install fails

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2015 01:03 PM, Tom H wrote: the grub2-install command >creates a custom grubx64.efi, deletes the original installed one, and looks >for grub.cfg in /boot/grub2/." >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2 I hadn't read that page. I stand corrected. How nice that Fedora diverges from upstr

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2015 12:56 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: that I can deal with.. but there are TWO grub.cfg files which one should I modify with grub2-mkconfig?? The one on the ESP. /boot/grub2/grub.cfg is used under BIOS. It normally won't be present on an UEFI system. -- users mailing list use

Re: grub2-install fails

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2015 12:51 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: Not according to the documentation, which indicates that: >"grub2-install shouldn't be used on EFI systems. The grub2-efi package >installs a prebaked grubx64.efi on the EFI System partition, which >looks for grub.cfg on the ESP in/EFI/fedora/ where

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2015 12:52 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: I will try turning on secure-boot next time I reboot, to see if I can boot with it turned on.. define "tampered with".. what if you run grub2-mkconfig.. that tampers with it... I mean that a root kit can't modify the system firmware, the shim, the

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > The central problem is that the distros are on a continuum among > ambivalence, incompetence, and malicious when it comes to multiboot > cooperation. And GRUB upstream has done a lot of Rube Goldberg > innovation to try to solve this problem

Re: grub2-install fails

2015-08-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 08/29/2015 03:20 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> grub2-install works on non-SB systems. >> And there's no reason that it shouldn't work on SB systems. Aren't the >> grub and shim executables simply copied from "/usr/something"? So they >> should b

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 03:55 PM, Tom H wrote: >> > >> > Therefore, this tool will block any operating system from starting, >> > besides Windows 8. So it must be deactivated. > That URL's inaccurate. > > Fedora (and Ubuntu) have an MS-signed shim that interfaces between the > EFi firmware's SB and grub. I o

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 03:43 PM, Tom H wrote: >> > oh, I get it.. but still I don't get it... /boot/efi is a separate >> > partition.. how can /EFI/ubuntu & /EFI/fedora be different... when they >> > are both under /boot/efi.. > Ubuntu's mounting sda1 at "/boot/efi" and Fedora's mounting sda8 there. I have

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 03:33 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> every time you boot into a specific distro, update the system, and >> install a new kernel, well, then grub needs to be updated. > > To be clear: the grub configuration needs to be updated. Grub, the > program, does not. Installing a new kernel doe

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 03:47 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> > > Just pick which system's grub you want to use, and you can stop > fiddling with efibootmgr. Use grub2-mkconfig in your "primary" system > to build a complete cfg file. I want fedora, I just want ubuntu updated so the primary works for me:) I

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > > http://www.instructables.com/id/Dual-Boot-Ubuntu-and-Windows-8-UEFI/step4/Deactivating-Fast-Startup-and-Secureboot/ > > Then it is necessary to deactivate the Secureboot. This tool was > implemented in Windows 8 with the new UEFI Bios, as

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 03:11 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> > > Secure Boot is an effective mitigation against some features of root > kits, and really should be enabled everywhere possible. > > Under Secure Boot, the firmware will not load a boot loader if it has > been tampered with, which will not load a k

Re: grub2-install fails

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 02:59 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> grub2-install works on non-SB systems. >> And there's no reason that it shouldn't work on SB systems. Aren't the >> grub and shim executables simply copied from "/usr/something"? So they >> should be signed. > that was not my writing, someone else se

Re: grub2-install fails- now SHIM

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 03:00 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: it would really be nice if there was some HOW-TO or documentation on all this new UEFI/shim packages... There is. https://fedoraproject.or

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2015 04:42 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: then if I update ubuntu I have to either do the efibootmgr -o to change to ubuntu OR from fedora run grub-2mkconfig.. with 2 ESPs it is a manual process to keep grub updated for 2 OSes.. Just pick which system's grub you want to use, and you can st

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 08/28/2015 05:18 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> >> From your first message, efibootmgr printed: >> >> Boot0002* Fedora >> HD(8,GPT,ac2fc695-5de9-47d0-a19b-01e236404130,0x5ae5d800,0x2f800)/File(\EFI\fedora\shim.efi) >> >> ... >> Boot0004* u

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/28/2015 06:48 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: every time you boot into a specific distro, update the system, and install a new kernel, well, then grub needs to be updated. To be clear: the grub configuration needs to be updated. Grub, the program, does not. Installing a new kernel does not

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2015 04:20 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: that may be true, but however I got my fedora installed on this UEFI box is the way I am leaving it.. I am pretty sure I have secure boot turned off. it works, and I go with the KISS method, it works, I'm leaving it alone:) Secure Boot is an effect

Re: grub2-install fails- now SHIM

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2015 04:15 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: it would really be nice if there was some HOW-TO or documentation on all this new UEFI/shim packages... There is. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription optio

Re: grub2-install fails

2015-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2015 03:20 AM, Tom H wrote: grub2-install works on non-SB systems. And there's no reason that it shouldn't work on SB systems. Aren't the grub and shim executables simply copied from "/usr/something"? So they should be signed. Not according to the documentation, which indicates that: "

Re: Failed to find cpu0 device node

2015-08-29 Thread Frederic Muller
On 08/29/2015 07:04 PM, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 08/29/2015 06:40 PM, Frederic Muller wrote: >> On 08/29/2015 04:33 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Try adding nosmp to the kernel boot option?? I've seen the same thing with my phenomii quad core system when booting with a 4.1x or

Re: Failed to find cpu0 device node

2015-08-29 Thread Frederic Muller
On 08/29/2015 06:40 PM, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 08/29/2015 04:33 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: >> > Try adding nosmp to the kernel boot option?? >> > I've seen the same thing with my phenomii quad core system when booting >> > with a 4.1x or 4.2x kernel? Same kernels work fine on a quad core

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 06:28 AM, Tom H wrote: > I just went back to your initial email. > > The Ubuntu and Fedora ESPs are different. Ubuntu's is sda1 and Fedora's is > sda8. > > Are you looking for the Ubuntu ESP while booted into Fedora or Ubuntu? > > I remember an old thread/bug where someone complained

Re: Failed to find cpu0 device node

2015-08-29 Thread Frederic Muller
On 08/29/2015 04:33 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > Try adding nosmp to the kernel boot option?? > I've seen the same thing with my phenomii quad core system when booting > with a 4.1x or 4.2x kernel? Same kernels work fine on a quad core i7, so not > sure if it is a phenomii or kernel issue wi

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 02:11 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > when I installed ubuntu after that, ubuntu became the default, and grub >> > had 3 entries for fedora, plus windows 10, plus ubuntu. > The central problem is that the distros are on a continuum among > ambivalence, incompetence, and malicious when it

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 01:25 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > Then it is necessary to deactivate the Secureboot. This tool was >> > implemented in Windows 8 with the new UEFI Bios, as a safety mechanism >> > to prevent malicious software from booting in your PC, as well as “non >> > authorized” operating system

Re: grub2-install fails- now SHIM

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 02:17 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2 >> > >> > yum install grub2-efi grub2-efi-modules shim > grub2-efi-modules is not necessary unless you plan on going off the > rails with GRUB modules that aren't baked into the signed Fedora GRUB > EFI OS Loader

Re: grub2-install fails

2015-08-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/29/2015 06:20 AM, Tom H wrote: >> > grub2-install does not apply on UEFI systems at all, it should not be >> > used. Instead you reinstall shim and grub2-efi packages. > grub2-install works on non-SB systems. SB-systems? > > And there's no reason that it shouldn't work on SB systems. Aren't t

Re: efibootmgr help

2015-08-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > > I just mounted my ubuntu "/" partition and /boot/efi was... empty. > I'm pretty sure it was there when I booted ubuntu.. oh wait... /boot/efi > is a separate partition.. but it is already mounted, and it is fedora, > not ubuntu... ar

Re: grub2-install fails

2015-08-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Paul Cartwright > wrote: >> >> I installed my new drive, and everything was fine. I added another OS, >> and now I can't do the grub2-install anymore. What am I missing?? >> >> # grub2-install /dev/sda >> gr

Re: Failed to find cpu0 device node

2015-08-29 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Try adding nosmp to the kernel boot option?? I've seen the same thing with my phenomii quad core system when booting with a 4.1x or 4.2x kernel? Same kernels work fine on a quad core i7, so not sure if it is a phenomii or kernel issue with some bios. Same kernels boot fine if I use nosmp option?

Re: Failed to find cpu0 device node

2015-08-29 Thread Frederic Muller
On 08/29/2015 02:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/29/15 14:05, Frederic Muller wrote: >> Yes I did a Google search before but didn't find the same exact issue >> (as I am stuck looking at the error message). I'll make a 32 bit USB key >> but then again, should I reinstall and update? I fear it'll t

Re: Failed to find cpu0 device node

2015-08-29 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/29/15 14:05, Frederic Muller wrote: > Yes I did a Google search before but didn't find the same exact issue > (as I am stuck looking at the error message). I'll make a 32 bit USB key > but then again, should I reinstall and update? I fear it'll take me to > the same problem. Should I downgrad